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Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:14:49 am »
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Draconian raw.
[/spoiler][CREATURE:DRACONIAN]
   [DESCRIPTION:A worker of the Draconian race.]
   [NAME:draconian:draconians:draconian]
   [CASTE_NAME:draconian:draconians:draconian]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'D'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [INTELLIGENT]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [BENIGN]
   [PREFSTRING:ferocious strength]
   [BODY:HUMANOID_NECK:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:TAIL_STANCE:CLAW_HAND:CLAW_FOOT:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH:TONGUE:FACIAL_FEATURES:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_FANGS:RIBCAGE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL_SKIN]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL_LEATHER]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL_HAIR]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CLAW:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
   [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:CLAW:CLAW_TEMPLATE]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:CLAW:FRONT]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:CLAW:FRONT]
   [SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
    [PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SCALE:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RELSIZES]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
   [TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [HAS_NERVES]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
   [GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
   [GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
   [PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TEARS:TEARS_TEMPLATE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SPIT:SPIT_TEMPLATE]
   [SECRETION:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TEARS:LIQUID:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:ALL:EXTREME_EMOTION]
   [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
      [CDI:ADV_NAME:Spit]
      [CDI:USAGE_HINT:NEGATIVE_SOCIAL_RESPONSE]
      [CDI:USAGE_HINT:TORMENT]
      [CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
      [CDI:MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SPIT:LIQUID_GLOB]
      [CDI:VERB:spit:spits:NA]
      [CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
      [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
      [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
      [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:30]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:4000]
   [BODY_SIZE:1:168:17500]
   [BODY_SIZE:8:0:91000]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:80:100:100:100:105:110:130]
      [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:80:100:100:105:110:110:130]
      [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CLOSE_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:ROUND_VS_NARROW:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LARGE_IRIS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:LIP]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:THICKNESS:50:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:lips:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:150:190]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:NOSE]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:UPTURNED:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CONVEX:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:nose bridge:SINGULAR]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EAR]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:SPLAYED_OUT:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HANGING_LOBES:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:GAPS:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:teeth:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:100:100:100:100:100:100:100] for vampires
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:1000]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:teeth:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:40:70:100:120:160:200]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:SKULL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HIGH_CHEEKBONES:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROAD_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:JUTTING_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:SQUARE_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:RASPY_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
   [MAXAGE:120:240]
   [ATTACK:PUNCH:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:GRASP]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:punch:punches]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
   [ATTACK:KICK:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:STANCE]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:kick:kicks]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:4:4]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_BAD_MULTIATTACK]
   [ATTACK:CLAW:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:GRASP:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:CLAW]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:CLAW:CLAWS]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
      [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
   [ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
      [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
   [BABY:1]
   [CHILD:8]
   [EQUIPS]
   [DIURNAL]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:WRESTLING:2]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:BITE:6]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE:2]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE:2]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:4]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:2]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:SWORD:2]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:SPEAR:2]
   [NOFEAR]
   [FIREIMMUNE]
   [LIKES_FIGHTING]
   [SMELL_TRIGGER:90]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:900:675:450:225:1900:2900] 39 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:6561:6115:5683:1755:7456:8567] 5 kph, NO DATA
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:5341:4723:4112:1254:6433:7900] 7 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph, NO DATA
   [SWIMS_INNATE]
   [MANNERISM_FINGERS:finger:fingers]
   [MANNERISM_NOSE:nose]
   [MANNERISM_EAR:ear]
   [MANNERISM_HEAD:head]
   [MANNERISM_EYES:eyes]
   [MANNERISM_MOUTH:mouth]
   [MANNERISM_HAIR:hair]
   [MANNERISM_KNUCKLES:knuckles]
   [MANNERISM_LIPS:lips]
   [MANNERISM_CHEEK:cheek]
   [MANNERISM_CLAW:claws]
   [MANNERISM_FEET:feet]
   [MANNERISM_ARMS:arms]
   [MANNERISM_HANDS:hands]
   [MANNERISM_TONGUE:tongue]
   [MANNERISM_LEG:leg]
   [MANNERISM_LAUGH]
   [MANNERISM_SMILE]
   [MANNERISM_WALK]
   [MANNERISM_SIT]
   [MANNERISM_BREATH]
   [MANNERISM_POSTURE]
   [MANNERISM_STRETCH]
   [MANNERISM_EYELIDS]
   [SPOUSE_CONVERSION_TARGET]
   [MUNDANE]
   [CASTE:DRACONIAN]
      [MALE]
      [POP_RATIO:100
   [CASTE:WARRIOR DRACONIAN]
      [MALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:warrior draconian:warrior draconians:warrior draconian]
      [BODY_SIZE:0:0:4000]
      [BODY_SIZE:1:168:17500]
      [BODY_SIZE:8:0:100000]
      [POP_RATIO:80]
   [CASTE:AERIEAL DRACONIAN]
      [CASTE_NAME:aerial draconian:aerial draconians:aerial draconian]
      [FEMALE]
      [LAYS_EGGS]
            [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
            [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
            [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
            [EGG_SIZE:600]
            [CLUTCH_SIZE:2:4]
      [POP_RATIO:80]
   [CASTE:ROGUE DRACONIAN]
      [CASTE_NAME:rogue draconian:rogue draconians:rogue draconian]
      [FEMALE]
      [LAYS_EGGS]
            [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
            [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
            [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
            [EGG_SIZE:600]
            [CLUTCH_SIZE:2:4]
      [POP_RATIO:30]
   [CASTE:DRACONIAN_BURNING]
      [CASTE_NAME:burning draconian:burning draconians:burning draconian]
      [MALE]
      [POP_RATIO:30]   [/spoiler]

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So can anyone see anything wrong? I'm not that good with civilizations, I wouldn't be surprised if I messed up something in the past four hours or so. Thanks!
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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 06:08:57 am »
Well...

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   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL_SKIN]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL_LEATHER]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL_HAIR]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]

So you're telling them to not have skin, and then you're making their outermost layer skin? That's an error.

Also, the concept of reptiles with earlobes is funny to me.

Also, you could've posted this in your other thread where you're discussing castes...
But yeah, for your main question, I don't know, seems okay so far, except, well - you do realize you haven't really made any changes save for the warriors? Adding that stinger tail to rogues could be tough with this setup.

Also - making a civ-controllable entity consisting of egg-laying creatures is tough.

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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 06:14:35 am »
I checked it out, and it seems to work. Because they're so a-moral, they instantly wage war with dwarves. Apparently, they utterly wreck dwarven civilizations. Out of five worlds, four had Draconians and no dwarves, one had them both, draconians covering a lot, dwarves on a few islands. The stinger tails work great, if you can figure out which draconian is a rogue, which isn't hard, since a third of the shes are rogues, you can have a wrestler who disables enemies really easily. I fixed that skin problem. Also, in adventure mode, the ability to fly over mountains and rivers is great. Swimming is both innate and useless if you're a flier.
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I threw night creature blood into a night creature's heart and she pulled it out and bled to death.
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Places to jibber madly at each other, got it
Quote from: NJW2000
If any of them are made of fire, throw stuff, run, and think non-flammable thoughts.

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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 06:16:45 am »
I set it so they're fine with eating sentient beings, and wow, the amount of dwarf meat my guys eat. This somehow made elves, humans, draconians, and dwarves all playable in fortress mode.
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I threw night creature blood into a night creature's heart and she pulled it out and bled to death.
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Places to jibber madly at each other, got it
Quote from: NJW2000
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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 06:18:07 am »
Once I have the poisonous dragon, which excretes poison and all, and the dragon bone alloys done, I'll release this mod. Sorry for the spam. I'll know better next time.
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I threw night creature blood into a night creature's heart and she pulled it out and bled to death.
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Places to jibber madly at each other, got it
Quote from: NJW2000
If any of them are made of fire, throw stuff, run, and think non-flammable thoughts.

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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 04:13:41 pm »
Just making sure you have it the way you want is here, you want all aerial and rogues to be female while all the other castes are always male?

I also see you are using the stance version of the vanilla tails, another thing that may or may not be intentional, if they lose their legs for some reason I think they would still be able to stand using only their tails.

And I don't see anything wrong with the entity file.
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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2014, 04:54:37 pm »
Yeah, when I tested them versus humans, they kept having their legs lopped off by two hand sword or great axes. Considering the Draconians are at war with everyone but elves half the time, I'd rather not have my guys wiggling on the ground. With those tails, they could lose their legs. It's useful. Is there any armor that covers tails?
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Quote from: Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum
I threw night creature blood into a night creature's heart and she pulled it out and bled to death.
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Places to jibber madly at each other, got it
Quote from: NJW2000
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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2014, 05:00:56 pm »
Since it's a STANCE bit, your critters will pull shoes over them.
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Re: Can someone tell me if I did this right? Civilization and creature castes.
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2014, 05:07:13 pm »
 ???    :P So I'll have three iron high boots per dragon?
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Quote from: Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum
I threw night creature blood into a night creature's heart and she pulled it out and bled to death.
Quote from: Eric Blank
Places to jibber madly at each other, got it
Quote from: NJW2000
If any of them are made of fire, throw stuff, run, and think non-flammable thoughts.