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[i2amroy]

This is just a tiny thing, but would it be possible for the vanilla raws to get organized into alphabetical order. It would save a lot of time for a lot of modders if we didn't have to go searching through huge text documents for a specific creature. I know that you could use a search function, but if you were copying lots of things it gets tedious searching for things, especially those that show up in multiple creatures (i.e. cave swallow, cave swallow chicks, giant cave swallow, etc.).

[Knigel]

Would this be as simple as it sounds? If it is, I would greatly support this. Trying to find one region on a list with about a dozen pages in no comprehensible order in Adventure Mode is kind of a pain.

[i2amroy]

No, I'm talking about the entries in text documents in the objects folder. The things that modders edit to adjust the world. And it is a simple thing of reorganizing, that would take hardly any time.

[rephikul]

inorganic_metal.txt
Iron
Gold
Silver

Stockpile setting
Iron
Gold
Silver

Metalsmith workshop
Iron
Silver

z-stone menu
Iron
Gold
Silver

Yes, we definitely need to sort it

[Untelligent]

'course, you can always use ctrl-f in the raw files.

[i2amroy]

So in the event of metals it's not as bad, but mind you that those are just three metals, there are still plenty of others that are all out of order. And sure, you could use ctrl-f in the raw files, but ctrl-f has limited usefulness in other cases. For example, lets say that I wanted to edit gypsum in inorganic_stone_material. The word 'gypsum' appears 15 times in the text file. Even if I add the ']' after it in the search box, I still get 6 results that I need to search through. Or lets say that I want to edit two of the gibbons in creature_large_tropical; the word 'gibbon' shows up with 52 results, many of which aren't even creatures, each of which I need to search through to find the ones that I want. And those aren't the only ones, there are tons of entries that return multiple results that you need to search through one at a time to find the right one. Plus this is easy to implement, when I last organized my raws in 40d it only took me like 45 min, and that was with a modded game with three to four times the number of entries as vanilla. Heck, I'd even do it for Toady if he asked me to, but me just reorganizing my own raws doesn't do anything when we're getting a new version to tinker with every third week.

[rephikul]

So in the event of metals it's not as bad, but mind you that those are just three metals, there are still plenty of others that are all out of order.

It's actually bad. Raw ordering is loaded and used for in game ordering which's also been under fire for a long time now. A simple reorganization that satisfy 2 crowds in one swift move is something I find very important.

[zwei]

Yeah, considering that fallout from this would be entries also ordered in game, i am all for it.

[CaptApollo12]

... there is a really easy program to write.
it just has find the tags that would start the entry much like dwarf fortress does to get the tags in the first place and then find the next one to show that it is done.

Put the txt in question into an array
Its just any sort that you could do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorting_algorithm
 print it to the txt file when done
rince and repeat until all rar is sorted

[thistleknot]

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead.

I know rawexplorer does it, but does anyone have any command line scripting-fu abilities that can help us use something like sed and regular expressions to alphabetize a set of raws based on their [object:id] [id:instance] instance's?

Update:
Well, RawExplorer author just got back to me and told me to be wary of object order dependencies.

So alphabetizing might be out of the question for some things...

[Dirst]

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead.

I know rawexplorer does it, but does anyone have any command line scripting-fu abilities that can help us use something like sed and regular expressions to alphabetize a set of raws based on their [object:id] [id:instance] instance's?

Update:
Well, RawExplorer author just got back to me and told me to be wary of object order dependencies.

So alphabetizing might be out of the question for some things...

Well, within an object the order can be vitally important (bodypart needs to be declared before it can be given an attack, etc.).  Across objects, I think the only serious dependencies are on creature variations like giant versions and animal men.  I could be wrong on that, but this solution would handle any known dependencies:

The game loads the raws in alphabetical order using the internal name on the first line.  A convention of putting variations in a later file than base creatures would automagically guarantee that dependencies are fulfilled.  For example:

creature_subterranean
creature_subterranean_variations

creature_myawesomemod
creature_myawesomemod_variations

[thistleknot]

that's good to hear.  Currently that's been my line of thinking as well, within the object token placement mattered. 

I recall my past conversations with RawExplorer author were trying to see if there was a way to alphabetize tokens within each [object:id] [id:*] (for a similar diff comparison problem); however, I/he soon realized that they had some sort of dependency chain.  I was also miffed that sorting destroyed header comments

I imagine the tokens are like variables fed into functions and or object constructors when the creation of the object is made.  Moving tokens out of place could have bad consequences (at least for some things).  If somehow a caste specifying token got deleted, there'd be a ton of duplicates...

For some reason, I think the token parser that Toady uses is smart enough to skip invalid tokens and/or almost accept them in universal manner; except... when a caste token is deleted.  Then I guess those duplicates are dumped?

Once the objects read in C++ runtime.  The variables are fed in from these raw files.  So alphabetizing them internally is out of the question.  However, I think a next logical step would be to sort them by caste within each [id:*]

[Uristsonsonson]

I spent all of an afternoon doing the objects file by hand. I replaced it on DFFD with a file Reelya made with some kind of sorter, but it never worked for me for some reason. I could try to find a spare copy somewhere.