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masonmason

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Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« on: August 24, 2014, 06:40:47 am »

1. Is keeping bees worth it?
2. is there a way to attract a larger migrant wave so far my migrants have been pitifully small (2 and 3.7)
3. How o I see the advancedness of my parent civilization?
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 06:43:19 am »

1. Yes its generally worth it since its not much trouble in the first place. Its some easy food/booze early game.
2. If the dwarf caravan leaves the map safely and with more profit more migrants will come.
3. The outpost liason will tell you updates regarding the world, thats the only way to check i believe. you can also retire and look it up in the legends page of your world!
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 06:45:24 am »

1. Yes its generally worth it since its not much trouble in the first place. Its some easy food/booze early game.
2. If the dwarf caravan leaves the map safely and with more profit more migrants will come.
3. The outpost liason will tell you updates regarding the world, thats the only way to check i believe. you can also retire and look it up in the legends page of your world!
2. Does giving them  gifts cunt? or should I simply trade my entire stock for one good worth 10? I am desperate for migrants. 7 Kids eat nd drink too much.
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Deboche

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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 07:26:00 am »

I think just making your fortress more valuable should be enough.

I always get a beekeeping industry going but I don't think it's worth it. You never make enough wax crafts that the wax crafter manages to get any good at it, you get a honeycomb once in a while and need to press it, then you get honey and royal jelly. Royal jelly barely ever gets used in meals and takes up jugs so you need to make lots and lots of jugs for the industry to keep going

Maybe when you can make candles wax will be more valuable.
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masonmason

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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 08:37:00 am »

New question I am down to 7 drinks and Im being seiged I have no military setup its my first spring and the first two migrant waves brought 5 worker and SEVEN children I have walled off my fort but I am running out of alchol and I have no plants to brew and no access to water what do I do my fields are probably months from being harvestable
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 09:06:14 am »

You can usually find water and plants in the caverns - a bit risky without a military, but preferable to dehydration. Dig staircases downward until you find a cavern, gather some plump helmets and locate water. Then you can wall it off for safety, and channel to the water source to build a well. And once you've opened the caverns, subterranean plants will start growing on your soil floors too.
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 09:46:29 am »

Thank you the goblins got bored and left before more than one dwarf died (the guy who got stuck outside) Walled off as you said to do and now I pray my new far keep up production i have also set aside an emergency stock (40) of liquor for just my brewers and farmers so if things o pear shaped at least they will survive.
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 10:37:45 am »

2. If the dwarf caravan leaves the map safely and with more profit more migrants will come.

I think merchants' profit just attracts more merchants, not more migrants.  Next year, they'll bring more wagons and more pack animals, if they made a large profit from your site this year.

Gifts that you give to the merchants are passed along to your mountainhome.  They don't count as merchant profit, as far as I know.  If you want to drive the merchant profit way up, you can just trade your 16 masterwork serrated steel discs for their (cedar bucket).

I think you can attract more migrants by increasing your created wealth, or something along those lines.  Stockpiling the serrated discs (or installing them into weapon traps) ought to work.
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 12:26:29 pm »

Thank you the goblins got bored and left before more than one dwarf died (the guy who got stuck outside) Walled off as you said to do and now I pray my new far keep up production i have also set aside an emergency stock (40) of liquor for just my brewers and farmers so if things o pear shaped at least they will survive.
remember to make plenty of barrels or pots. Within a few seasons your food and drink stocks will be in the thousands even if you have tiny plots and have brew and cook on repeat
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Re: Is bee cultivation worth t plus a couple of questions
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 03:46:42 am »

The first two migration waves any fort gets are hard coded, meaning they always arrive in summer and fall I thing and they tend to be quite small. Later on you only get waves if you fort seems attractive (ie wealthy) and is reachable (ie not on an isolated island), the more wealthy you are the bigger the waves. In practice I am usually drowned in migrants arriving in waves of 20-30 at least twice a year until I hit the population cap.
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