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[starkman9000]

I've just gotten back into DF since 34.11 was first released and have decided to continue making a mod that I started back then.
One of the added races (Criranean) is basically a super-species of centaur (half-men, half-quadruped) and I want to separate them into castes for each sub-species (half-lion, half-horse, half-rhino) but also need the castes for male and female.

So my question is, how do I separate the sub-species castes and divide them into male/female castes without creating an, example, HALF_LION_MALE and HALF_GOAT_MALE caste?

I have forgotten almost everything there is about modding DF, so treat me like I've never done this before.

Thank you

EDIT: I reallize that the HALF_LION_MALE/FEMALE probably wasn't the best example for what I was asking.

[celem]

As far as I know, you dont avoid that.  Certainly thats how it was done in 34.11 and thats how a lot of Masterwork caste genders work.

If theres something new we can do with the latest version hopefully someone will say

[Roses]

The typical way it is done is to have, for example

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[CASTE:HALF_LION_MALE]
 [MALE]
 *ANY MALE ONLY TAGS* (e.g. a mane)
[CASTE:HALF_LION_FEMALE]
 [FEMALE]
 *ANY FEMALE ONLY TAGS* (e.g. MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE, etc...)
[SELECT_CASTE:HALF_LION_MALE]
 [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:HALF_LION_FEMALE]
 *ANY HALF LION TAGS* (e.g. the body, description, attacks, etc...)There is currently no way to just make one caste and then have the game automatically make two castes from that.

[starkman9000]

I more ment is there a way to have simply a MALE caste and a FEMALE caste instead of having a HALF_LION_MALE and also a HALF_HORSE_MALE. Such as selecting the MALE and FEMALE castes and creating a HALF_LION caste out of them so that the HALF_LION caste is also both MALE and FEMALE. Is this possible?

[Meph]

Not really.

You can make SELECT_CASTE:MALE_HALF_LION and SELECIT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE_MALE_HALF_HORSE (and line up all male castes after it in the same fashion) and then add a single MALE tag to it. But thats not really so different from adding a MALE tag to each caste individually.

[starkman9000]

Alright, thank you. Just trying to see if I could save time.

[Minnakht]

Also, as someone was going to mention anyway, all combinations of a male and female caste of a single creature can give birth to any caste of the creature, so even if you maybe manage to use orientation tags to keep relationships in check (I don't even know if they can do that, actually), the offspring will still be random, so, yeah, hope you don't mind that.

[starkman9000]

No, I knew that would happen.

[YAHG]

You could also always do it like I do with no understanding of these nifty shortcuts and just end up with a MASSIVE hard to edit creature RAW...

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I mean there is always that option.

[starkman9000]

You could also always do it like I do with no understanding of these nifty shortcuts and just end up with a MASSIVE hard to edit creature RAW...

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I mean there is always that option.

Hmm, I might try that.

[palu]

Creature variation:

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:MALE_FEMALE_CASTE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CASTE:!ARG1_MALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:MALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CASTE:!ARG1_FEMALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:FEMALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:SELECT_CASTE:!ARG1_MALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:!ARG1_FEMALE]
Put in creature:

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[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:MALE_FEMALE_CASTE:Whatever id you want]
Tags
These things are awesome. They cut down on so much boilerplate.

[starkman9000]

Creature variation:

Code: [Select]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:MALE_FEMALE_CASTE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CASTE:!ARG1_MALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:MALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CASTE:!ARG1_FEMALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:FEMALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:SELECT_CASTE:!ARG1_MALE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:!ARG1_FEMALE]
Put in creature:

Code: [Select]

[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:MALE_FEMALE_CASTE:Whatever id you want]
Tags
These things are awesome. They cut down on so much boilerplate.

This is blasphamy, this is madness. But amazingly useful.