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What is this dragon doing?
« on: April 27, 2014, 02:36:38 pm »

I've got a guest, but he won't come in.

He's standing outside, not moving, on top of a lowered drawbridge, next to a road.


This is directly below. Sorry for the mess--there are ramps under the junk at the top of the image.


Is he actually trying to attack the armor stand? He seems too far away, plus he's on the wrong z-level and there's kind of a wall in the way. He's standing on the bridge, so I can't imagine he's attacking that, and the wiki says they don't attack roads. Is there something else I'm missing? Is there a way to convince him to come inside so I can trap him, or am I going to have to put him down?
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 03:15:49 pm »

He's just admiring your drawbridge, man.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 03:23:32 pm »

He could very well be trying to destroy that armor stand, or even the bridge; looks like he's only two tiles away from the center of the bridge, and building destroyers only need to be within two tiles of a building to destroy it. Whether he's actually attacking them or not, it sounds like his pathfinding is broken; you might have to get his attention somehow or destroy either of those buildings.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 03:31:06 pm »

It seems he actually was going for the armor stand, which I totally forgot was an artifact platinum one. An elven caravan showed up, and he obliterated it and went right back where he was, but then he uncovered a kobold ambush and one got past him, so he chased it inside. (Melted my bauxite drawbridge to slag in the process, too.) Once he was downstairs, it was clear he was going after the armor stand.

I tried to get him into the traps by sending my legless militia captain after him, but Urist (actually named Urist for once) was WAY too good a shot. Took the dragon down within 3 steps, and it never even got to breathe at him.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 03:55:02 pm »

We can use artifact furniture to distract giant monsters? There has to be a way to weaponise this.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2014, 03:57:33 pm »

We can use artifact furniture to distract giant monsters? There has to be a way to weaponise this.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2014, 04:01:38 pm »

We can use artifact furniture to distract giant monsters? There has to be a way to weaponise this.

The concept of an artifact furniture outside surrounded by a field of repeating spikes has been around for a few years as an anti-building-destroyer weapon. Notably used against troll siegers.

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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 06:03:15 pm »

We can use artifact furniture to distract giant monsters? There has to be a way to weaponise this.

Get in line. You can totally use this to draw anything with a BUILDING_DESTROYER tag, as mentioned. The tag comes with levels, and anything beyond a 2 (I believe) can destroy stone furniture while 1 can only destroy wood.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 08:51:04 pm »

If only it'd stayed stuck by your entrance. You'd have one hell of a defense against sieges.
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 11:32:09 am »

We can use artifact furniture to distract giant monsters? There has to be a way to weaponise this.

Get in line. You can totally use this to draw anything with a BUILDING_DESTROYER tag, as mentioned. The tag comes with levels, and anything beyond a 2 (I believe) can destroy stone furniture while 1 can only destroy wood.
Creatures with [BUILDINGDESTROYER:1] only go after statues, windows, archery targets, slabs, wooden doors, and wooden hatch covers. The ones with [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2] (i.e. all megabeasts) go after everything but wells, bridges, roads, traps/levers, animal traps, chains, cages, and upright weapons.

This is all described in detail on the wiki, so there's no excuse for posting what you "think" is how it works...
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Re: What is this dragon doing?
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2014, 11:27:09 am »

We can use artifact furniture to distract giant monsters? There has to be a way to weaponise this.

It is a remarkably convenient way to get Forgotten beasts to stand still so you can drop a pre--support and levered bit of the ceiling on top of them.
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