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New player with butchering problems
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:27:36 pm »


I have no idea what I'm doing wrong

Oh yeah, I have DFHack installed if that matters
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 10:01:27 pm »

How did you kill it? i think only animals killed by hunters can be butchered due to a bug

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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 10:08:43 pm »

If your butcher has fishing enabled as a job, which looks to be the case, then he might not always be around when you need something butchered. Then the meat will just sit in there until it rots and someone hauls it away.
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2014, 10:09:05 pm »

Animals killed some other ways can be butchered, too, but ones that starve or die of old age can't be, and there might be some other sauses of death that have the same effect.

Pretty good chance it's something like that, though. Also I vaguely remember something about the corpse having to be aboveground? I'm not sure that's from this version if it was ever a thing at all, though.
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2014, 10:23:15 pm »

How did you kill it? i think only animals killed by hunters can be butchered due to a bug
Well it was killed by an "animal trainer", but he was doing hunting when he shot it with a crossbow.

If your butcher has fishing enabled as a job, which looks to be the case, then he might not always be around when you need something butchered. Then the meat will just sit in there until it rots and someone hauls it away.
So there's a short window after the kill where things can be butchered?
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 10:28:00 pm »


If your butcher has fishing enabled as a job, which looks to be the case, then he might not always be around when you need something butchered. Then the meat will just sit in there until it rots and someone hauls it away.
So there's a short window after the kill where things can be butchered?
Not that I can think of, the only place where an animal can be designated to be butchered is when you are looking at your own animals, not at wild or already killed animals. The hunters kill should automatically be hauled to the butcher's shop by the hunter himself and the butcher should automatically butcher it.

Also, check your meat stock, is it possible the animal has already been butchered without you realizing it and you keep ordering meat to be butchered when it has in fact already been butchered?
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2014, 10:48:42 pm »

So there's a short window after the kill where things can be butchered?
Not that I can think of, the only place where an animal can be designated to be butchered is when you are looking at your own animals, not at wild or already killed animals. The hunters kill should automatically be hauled to the butcher's shop by the hunter himself and the butcher should automatically butcher it.

Also, check your meat stock, is it possible the animal has already been butchered without you realizing it and you keep ordering meat to be butchered when it has in fact already been butchered?
I don't think so, unless a weasel is made of raw mussel haha.

Well shit, if there's no way to do it manually I'm even more screwed. I guess I'll stick to domesticated animals once I get more of them. I was looking forward to murdering random things though :(
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2014, 10:58:26 pm »

Just make sure your hunters only have hunting enabled(and enough bolts), and that your butcher only has butchering enabled. Those two things go a long ways towards preventing waste and should make things simpler.
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 11:00:33 pm »

Animals killed some other ways can be butchered, too, but ones that starve or die of old age can't be, and there might be some other sauses of death that have the same effect.
Animals that die of old age can be butchered, so long as they're wild animals. Wild animals don't need to eat and so can't starve to death.
Tame animal corpses cannot be butchered at all unless they're raised from the dead (at which point they are no longer tame) and the walking corpse killed.

Usually when I get this amount of butchery spam it's because there's something that's unreachable but still activating the auto-butcher job. This can happen if the unreachable item is either within about twenty tiles of the workshop, or sitting on a refuse pile somewhere.

Weasels are too small to butcher.

Edit: You can slaughter tame weasels, but they won't give anything but a skull.
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 11:22:24 pm »

Alright, too small then. I missed that on the wiki somehow.

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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2014, 07:09:51 am »

check your refuse pile.if it's full,open a few more spaces.
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Re: New player with butchering problems
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 09:42:27 am »

Meat is considered a bit of a luxury at first. As annoying as problems like this are if you have a decent plump helmet underground farm you should never need to starve or die of dehydration.

In my experience try turning off all hauling labours for my dedicated butcher when hes got something to butcher. After that the game dose have a few bug's here and there. My tip don't rely on meat as your only stable food source.

Ideally you want something like a 5x5 plump helmet farm going 24/7, 2-3 fisher-dwarfs and some preparing the caught fish (not the same dwarfs) and hunting never really pays off for me so I skip that unless a migrant insists and try to set up a few nest boxs to get eggs.

Good luck let us know how you get on.
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