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Doktoro Reichard

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I was strolling through Legends one day...
« on: January 31, 2014, 01:55:50 am »

... Trying to find out, amongst other things, how cool and eventful is my pocket world (mot much you may say)... until I remembered to find out about a "goblin" Ranger that happened to invade my fortress in the 3rd siege.

This particular "goblin" has been/is the head of its Civilization (according to the menu), so you can imagine how awed I was when I received his delightful visit. After the siege his name no longer appeared in the civ menu, which I found odd, as I did nothing but lay hidden behind a retracted bridge.

I never once remembered to check his status until now, in Legends. What I find puzzles me:

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Rovod Bloodlabors is a female dwarf born in 222.
Caste: Female
Type: Ranger
Journey Pets: Jabberer

Positions:
Master of The Dreamy Hell  (237 - Present)
(Taken from the latest Legends Viewer, as somehow World Viewer fails to load)

The story behind her (which isn't much) is that she was abducted by another dwarf at the age of 1 and brought to a Dark Fortress, married a different dwarf at age 2 and then migrated to a different Dark Fortress, where at age 15, after a non-disclosed scuffle (that is to say, no recorded war), a dwarf managed to kill the current leader (another dwarf, which in turn ascended to throne because another dwarf killed the ruling dwarf. Yep 3 dwarves in charge of a Goblin civilization. Somehow this reminds me of that episode in Futurama where Fry becomes Emperor by killing the ruling one).

Another thing puzzles me though. Goblins seem pretty uneventful overall as a race, despite their numbers are almost equal (48.9%) to all other races and meaningful creatures (this isn't a Goblin Age by the way, rather a Draconic Age). Even in their fort dwarves seem to get most of the action. I think that due to this being a pocket world at 260 years, none of the dwarves has done anything remarkable (as the case with the "goblin" ranger), but I'll check later.

What I originally came to ask was if civ leaders disappearing from the menu happens a lot or was this a fluke (because one of the first thoughts I had was that she had been killed outside the fortress). But the story seems interestingly enticing, although I'm too tired right now to write it out.

(Also, if someone could confirm that the 10 thousand goblins will eventually attack me at any given time, that would be great. I kind of miss their company after a couple years without sieges)
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Re: I was strolling through Legends one day...
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 03:55:01 am »

With the current version of the game, where the world is frozen in time, having a civ leader leave your map has the same effect as killing him. So your goblins no longer have a leader and they will no longer bring mounts. Similarly human civ leaders lose their position if they visit you as diplomats, though they get replaced as soon as they send you another diplomat.
The goblins will attack you again, sieges are wealth based and seem somewhat random at times, so a few very active years can be followed by a few years with decreased activity. Their civ numbers do not matter in fort mode however, sieges are randomly generated, so you get the same amount of attackers with tenthousand goblins as you would with a single goblin civ member.
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Re: I was strolling through Legends one day...
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 03:24:20 pm »

With the current version of the game, where the world is frozen in time, having a civ leader leave your map has the same effect as killing him. So your goblins no longer have a leader and they will no longer bring mounts.

That's... unfortunate. I was looking for capturing her and user her for target practice (and then maybe put her head on a spike like the kings of yore, to rattle the siegers).

Then again, I did know that once a leader is killed, they would stop bringing mounts.

It is also a pity that their civ numbers don't matter in fort mode, as 10k goblins just lying in wait for someone to kill them is quite enticing indeed. Oh well, maybe some luck in Adventure mode.

In regards to the actual storyline, I find it interesting, but somehow lacking. Here's the gist of it.

- 4 Demons came, nothing out of the ordinary (except for the fact they just seemed to wait for the ruling demon to kick his boots). They were killed by members of their civ, 2 goblins, 1 human and 1 dwarf, completely unrelated one to another.
- Then things got a little dwarfier. Except that they were killed in duels by challenging demons. They lasted about 1 year each. The demons lasted more time, about 20 years each. To be honest, the demons were the most moral of all the races. They earned their right to rule their civilization by good honest combat.
- Then, the last demon was murdered by a dwarf. A completely unrelated dwarf was promoted, which after 60 years was murdered by yet another unrelated dwarf. Another random dwarf was promoted, ruled for 35 years, then killed by another dwarf. And so enters Rovod.

None of the murderers have any formal relationship with any of the victims or the new leaders. Which leads me to the following conclusion:

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Seeing as how dwarves in that particular fortress reach 500, whereas goblins reach 10k, seems to reason that goblins are just commoners in relation to the dwarves that were adbucted (again, by dwarves). This leads to the conclusion that this breed of "dark dwarves" just "liberates" other dwarves from their lowly plump helmet farming duties and instead invites them to a new empowered life.
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"A dwarf isn't a dwarf unless he dies the most !!FUN!! of ways", Quote unknown, possibly Armok.

Doktoro Reichard is quite pleased with making a Great Carbonite Trap

Why shouldn't you write with a broken pencil? Because it's pointless!