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[esdo]

So after encountering difficulties when combating some Jabberer i found on my fort, i decided to check the wiki to see why the hell the beast were so difficult to kill. I then found out about its enormous body size of 4500k cm^3. For comparison, i used a cow, whose size is 600k cm^3. I then started to check out numerous creatures for their body size, so I could have a small idea of the creature's size.

I was shocked to see grizzly's adult size is 200k cm^3. So i can assume a cow is THREE times larger than a ferocious dwarf-devourer grizzly bear?

A Mule's body size is 400k cm^3, so a grizzly is also smaller than a mule. I don't really understand. Are the cows and mules really big or we got dwarf bears?

[Grim Portent]

It's probably an oversight in the RAW. There's quite a few in the game, numbers that were typed in wrong and not fixed because there are other things needing done. Easy to fix though.

[GhostDwemer]

According to Wikipedia, adult grizzlies weigh from 290-1,500 pounds, with most between 400-700. Adult cows weigh from 1,500 to 4,700 pounds. Mules weigh 800-1,00 pounds. So the raws aren't really inaccurate.

[ShadowHammer]

Yeah, grizzlies are fairly big, but their size really isn't what makes them so deadly: it's the fact that they can have claws the length of your forearm. Also, they can sprint about 3 times faster than the average person, and have a sense of smell around 100 000 times that of yours, so you not only can't run, you also can't hide.

[esdo]

yeah i saw the weight in wikipedia but still, 3x is just too much. And then, there's the Mule size.

I think im gonna set their size to 400k in the raws...

even tho they shouldn't get much more dangerous.

[Oort]

remember, it's not 3x height, it's 3x volume (which should be around 3x weight). So the raws are right.

Have you ever seen a cow up close? They're a lot bigger than they seem from far away.

[VerdantSF]

Have you ever seen a cow up close? They're a lot bigger than they seem from far away.

Absolutely this.  I worked on a farm one summer and one of the biggest surprises was just how big cows really are.

[wierd]

Indeed. My aunt raises black angus. Those are small in comparison to something like a brahman though. The grizzly bears at the zoo don't even come close to the behemoth size of a brahman bull.

[foop]

Have you ever seen a cow up close? They're a lot bigger than they seem from far away.

I know it's not what you meant, but I couldn't help thinking of this clip.

(Apologies for the 12 day necro)

[vanatteveldt]

Assuming that mammals are made of water*, the 600cm3 for a cow corresponds to 600kg  or 1300 lbs. This is actually not very large but corresponds decently with the 753 kg average listed in wikipedia.

Grizzly bears apparently weigh around 130-360 kg, so the raw is not that far off. 300 might be a better number, but 400 or more is certainly too much.

Most adult female grizzlies weigh 130–200 kg (290–440 lb), while adult males weigh on average 180–360 kg (400–790 lb).

*) humans are about 1.05 kg per liter, so I guess other mammals won't be that different.