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merp

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Old Fart Questions
« on: October 02, 2013, 03:40:26 am »

So... I'm kind of crap at "meta" stuff. 

I just dloaded mwdf and am a bit lost.

1) My goto fuel source used to be trees.  If I toss a tree into a crematory do I still get coal?
2) Is there an option to put df into a window frame?  hitting the windows button everytime i want to run a utility is annoying, cause i have windows 8.
3) do forges require fuel?  is coal or lignite more common now? 
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cainiao

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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 04:27:42 am »

So... I'm kind of crap at "meta" stuff. 

I just dloaded mwdf and am a bit lost.

1) My goto fuel source used to be trees.  If I toss a tree into a crematory do I still get coal?
2) Is there an option to put df into a window frame?  hitting the windows button everytime i want to run a utility is annoying, cause i have windows 8.
3) do forges require fuel?  is coal or lignite more common now?

1) IIRC, crematory 25% yields of coke for burning anything, even clothes.
2)There should be a "windowed:no" setting under main setting menu, try "windowed:yes"
3)Most non-magma forges require fuel, except finishing forge which using cold hammering. Coal is much easier to get since you have so many options.
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Meph

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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 05:41:42 am »

1, The vanilla wood furnace is still there, its just called wood oven.
2, F11 is our friend.
3, yes they do, and there is a lot of fuel with anthrazite and compact peat now.
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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 06:05:07 am »

What cainiao said  8)

1. As mentioned, the crematorium is more for getting rid of stuff like tattered clothes and any vermin remains the apothecary doesn't need. For old fashion wood ->coke making, try the wood oven. There's many ways to get fuel in this mod btw so you need not rely on trees indefinitely, not to mention it's easy to farm your own trees via farm plots.

3. The default setups have very common minerals in them so finding coal etc should not be an issue. Keep in mind also that as you mine you will find Blood of Armok boulders, which can be turned into an infinitely magma spewing magmaling with the alchemist workshop and a changeling. You can discover the magma buildings via research btw, so no need fig to the magma sea or stress too much about embarking with a volcano.

Also, the cheapest way to get infinite (albeit slow) fuel is with a peat layer and a screw press. You can collect 5x peat in masterwork (as you would clay) and then press it in a screw press for 1x compressed peat, which in turn can be converted into fuel via a smelter for 2-4 coke.

Meph's mod is great about giving the player a wide range of options when it comes to most resources, other than eggs  ;)

Moleweasels replace cats for vermin hunting (they own cats) and the shaggy badger dog is a shareable vanilla dog. Mastiffs are what dogs wanted to be when they were puppies. No grazer needs more than 3x3 afaik and anything overtly war/hunting doesn't graze at all. The turkey is dead, a moment of silence please.

Feel free to turn off any option that sounds too complex/difficulty inducing. It helps to run a starter world to get a feel for all the new content the mod brings.


Edit: Meph beat me
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 06:08:53 am by BoffoDorf »
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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 06:17:05 pm »

wow, cool!  I'm talking to the guy who made the masterwork mod!

I really have to change up my strategy, i normally embark with tons of turkeys and only use farming for booze.
I just recently started using the milk/cheese and meat barrel exploits... oh well, still better than sorting socks
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Meph

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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 06:20:11 pm »

Quote
wow, cool!  I'm talking to the guy who made the masterwork mod!

 ???

So is everyone else here; its not like I am unavailable.  :)
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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 06:29:15 pm »

Quote from: Meph
its not like I am unavailable.
"Inactive, don't PM me! >:O"
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3) do forges require fuel?  is coal or lignite more common now?
Actually, one of my favorite little mini-industries to run is to dig up a bunch of peat and have some dudes compress it into compact peat. Easy, free fuel ;) (You get 2-4 pieces of coke from one unit of compact peat, if I recall correctly.)
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 06:32:01 pm by Lottanubs »
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BoffoDorf

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 08:53:12 pm »

Meph simply owns, he's so patient with the endless questions and works on the mod all while biking across the world. Super Meph.  8)
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Meph

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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 09:19:40 pm »

Dont get carried away folks, I am sitting in front of a real PC, being at home in Germany, playing NeverwinterNights 2 and downloading a crapton of movies and series... but in 2 weeks I am back travelling, a tiny bit, 1 week on Malta. Got a flight for 28€, couldnt ignore this opportunity.
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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2013, 12:58:16 am »

wow, cool!  I'm talking to the guy who made the masterwork mod!

the real trick is getin him to hush so the community can reply first... >:)

drakes are your friend for pets to embark with. (shearable bronze quality leather) not to mention they chew through wildlife

leatherwing bats are flying (fast) vermin disposal units. and shearable leather (regular) for all your clothing needs

try embarking with a genie and giving it a nest box... >:)

mind the coal dust. marksdwarves are your friends, not so much friends of warlocks.

and frill lizards replaced cats i thought... *shrug*

@meph which version of nwn2? hehe.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2013, 02:53:14 pm »

leatherwing bats are flying (fast) vermin disposal units. and shearable leather (regular) for all your clothing needs

There's a vanilla bug where flying critters, once tamed, never fly.

The other issue with leather wings is that they lack the [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] tag such that everything will beat up on these things as they flop around helplessly at bog standard speed. They make very fragile vermin hunters.

and frill lizards replaced cats i thought... *shrug*

Frill lizards aren't even mammals... never mind they are over 3x slower than a cat and over 7x slower than a moleweasel.

It's pretty clear moleweasels are the cat replacements when you see they have this leftover action.
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[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:CLEANING]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Clean]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:CLEAN_SELF]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:CLEAN_FRIEND]
[CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:TONGUE]
[CDI:VERB:lick:licks:lick each other]
[CDI:CAN_BE_MUTUAL]
[CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ALLOWED:TOUCHABLE]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:1]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:10]

An action only cats and red pandas exhibit in vanilla.

The only other creature in masterwork with that cleaning interaction tag are the normal and giant drow spiders. The funny thing is the spiders do not have the required tongue.



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Re: Old Fart Questions
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2013, 03:35:21 pm »

Nooooo! Not the turkeys!

The only other creature in masterwork with that cleaning interaction tag are the normal and giant drow spiders. The funny thing is the spiders do not have the required tongue.
So, uh...
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2013, 10:07:57 pm »

I so admired Turkeys for their snood.. no more I guess.

And so very odd that spider dwarf licking action in comic form, so much more that the comic post dates Rhenaya's passing away (RIP)... so very very odd.
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