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Swonnrr

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Bring it ******! - wait, -undergound- ambush?
« on: August 24, 2013, 10:51:27 pm »

Sooo... I've got a 120 dwarves fortress. Nothing special, it's the "standard" underground dwarf fortress built to keep 120 dwarves running.
The entry is a spiral corridor, with at it's center a 3x3 t2zlvel tower for my marksdwarves, and a 3x3stairs in the tower.
Nothing special.

It's been 4 years, now, and... no attacks. Well, 3 kobolds, and 2 thiefs. A bunch of sneaks tried to sneak the traps. And my 30dwarves military. I guess those were orcs. Didn't worked.

Now... Am i not supposed to get ambush? I activated fireimps, werewolfs, spiders too. I checked at embark, i had a path and war with all of them. Human, dwarves, elves manage to get to my fortress to trade, so that's not the problem.

How am i supposed to get fun? I didn't checked half of the funs options, bought 6 grizzlys and 2 dragon raptor, armed my militia with mithril spears and trapped the whole surface to die of catsplosion!

Wait: As i write this posts, it seems that i get ambush... 30 zlvel down the 2nd cavern, in hidden zone.
Yep, recon mission sent, a shitload of ambush waiting down there, where no dwarves ever went.

... what the HFS, goblins?
Is this a bug?

Note: there used to be a path to my fortress, and to surface. An indirect path, since it would require the goblin to fly. No dwarve ever went in this cavern, i hatched-locked it as soon as i breached it, and i breached the ceiling, not a wall. And they spawned in hidden zone. I know caravans will leave by the caverns if forced to, but goblins attacking here?
More importantly, by the amount of cats, fishermen, hunters and random haulers i had looking for problems i had outside, no army, ever, tried to attack by the surface.

I mean, i know 20 mithril professional pikemens backed by 10 snipers, some of them legendary, with 3 dragon raptors (soon 4) and 10 grizzly bears leading the front line are scarry.
But... They hid, underground? Like... really? They... they fear Typhoonlies more than golems, magma elementals, Giant Cave Spiders, 2 forgotten beasts and a freaky eyeball floating around?
(yeah, even FB fear me and hide undergound, instead of showing where i could hit them.)
How do i convice them to fight like dwarves, and not the afraid kittens they truly are?
COME ON, EVEN MY KITTENS GO OUTSIDE TO FIGHT BUTTERFLY FLUFFY WAMBLERS AND MINECARTS! MY KITTENS ARE MANLIER THAN YOU.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2013, 10:53:45 pm by Swonnrr »
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masterdiscord

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Re: Bring it ******! - wait, -undergound- ambush?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 11:01:58 pm »

lol, it's a normal sort of thing for DF, once you reveal the caverns, enemies can spawn on any open edge tile, IIRC. I think you can get trade caravans down there too.
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SharpKris

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Re: Bring it ******! - wait, -undergound- ambush?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 11:34:03 pm »

on the bright side (hard to tell underground) you wouldn't have military dwarves suffering from surface sickness.   
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Swonnrr

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Re: Bring it ******! - wait, -undergound- ambush?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2013, 12:03:27 am »

We came here in hope of greats tales to recount. Legends of Dwarven Legions fighting giants flaming demonic spiders to the death, covered of acid blood and necrosed guts, as the setting sun was bringing an hematite light on the silver bolts dotting the trenches and bodies of the fallen, on this scorching wasteland, once gray and peacefull, now red and wasted.

Not some hide-and-seek game in the caverns.

Well... If i want my fight... looks like i'm going to need magma. Sooo much magma.
2nd cavern and i still haven't found it. And i don't want to build a 100zlvel pumpstack. In this fortress at least, it doesn't fit my plans.
No hopes? Really?
It never happened to me before. Something else must trigger it?
I'l accept this fortress to be doomed to boredom, but i'd like to avoid it happening again.
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Re: Bring it ******! - wait, -undergound- ambush?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2013, 04:33:02 am »

You have an embassy, why not challange races to fight? That will spawn a siege. Or use the colosseum. Or breach HFS.

Goblins and other surface races DO NOT spawn underground. There must be a path.
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