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Duuvian

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Re: NHL Hockey
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2013, 01:31:36 am »

is anyone alarmed at the amounts of overtime games?

I think one way to remove the sort of tic for tac feeling that penalty calling has currently would be to implement in the rules a few lines of text allowing for replay review by indifferent professionals subject to fines or other penalties should they themselves be incapable of quickly ruling accurately with the help of video recording and replay devices.

With the importance of power plays in the last decade of hockey, I think if one considers your statement in addition to the theoretical effect on sportsmanship such unreviewable penalties with such great effect on the game can cause, that there ought to be a review booth for penalties involving an off the ice referee or other rule-caller.
there is, its only used though when theres either a: a major penalty/fight or b: every goal

Should there be a option to ask for a second opinion on calls? I have only seen a couple of instances where their should have been a penalty pull/increased but whats done is done.
Also, what does this have to do with the large influx of overtime games?

Yeah, you are right, for some reason I had a brain freeze and mixed up overtime games with series running to game 7, and keep in mind my spectrum is focussed only on the Detroit team like it has been in previous seasons, I watched hardly any of the other teams in the playoffs except a bit of the Leafs game today and a Chicago game.

What I think would be cool is that penalties called on the ice would be reviewed to start out with. Then, after probably at least a season, if that works out well and the League's play calling team becomes proficient in the tech required, you could even consider putting in 'dirty play' rules, where a team could be penalized for things the refs missed in live action but that may have been caught in the black booth or whatever it could be called, maybe that don't result in a penalty but perhaps if a goal is scored on the play it's considerered broken and no goal after the fact.

Believe me, the technology is there, the main delay would be the human processing of the information from various perspectives to determine the best camera angle and that thus determine the play. Only on extremely puck out of sight plays, (perhaps like a goalie laying on the puck before the whistle) is where the technology inserted into the process would hamper the flow of the game. I don't know if a strategy can be built off that, maybe, but it seems to me a small sacrifice in return unless people get hurt because of it or the rule is abused blatantly due to having unexpected consequences.
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Re: NHL Hockey
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2013, 02:25:32 am »

i remember the game for the canadians vs. senators, one of the canadians was shoved into the blue zone just in time for them to score a goal. It was retracted since they called on goalie interference but the other jackasses were the ones that shoved him in there the first place.

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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2013, 02:54:37 am »

Yeah, that kind of stuff too. It's not really playing fair, and replays for that too, could prevent it.

The main thing is that the league should have a crew watching a big projector showing what the star video editor earning his salary in doing the official replays is looking at on his own projector and video editing computer that could be available by next year at that NHL arena. In addition you would be creating decent paying non-menial jobs for young talented video editors to do something useful in society by having a team of editors for every stadium, and in addition it probably will do some small bit towards studying of social sciences and possibly scoring an assist for the arts as well by having a reason to have a few more professional video editors in a society that seems to want to have ever increasing reasons to educate them as a viable product of North and I hope South America, as well as anywhere else there is sport.
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Re: NHL Hockey
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2013, 01:48:22 pm »

Bah. The only professional hockey teams I watch are Detroit and whoever Detroit is playing.

Re: Overtime games. It's certainly good for the league, since more game time = more advertising = more money. Also closer games = more viewers = more money. It might not be good for the players, but I can't say for certain as the closest I've had to an anatomy class was High School freshman biology.
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2013, 09:37:27 pm »

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The fate-cursed ones almost won against Boston.
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Re: NHL Hockey
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2013, 02:39:30 pm »

Well, Red Wings won 4-1 without an empty net goal away, which I think makes that win more impressive than Chicago's 3-1 + empty netter at home.
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2013, 09:54:30 pm »

Wings are going back to the Joe, and as I have the whole series I'll watch that game too. I think it'll be a fun game to watch. The Wings will have energy in that building I hope. In this latest game in Chicago there wasn't as much jump, and I would like to see them find it again for the next one.

One thing I remember noticing was a player, Brunner I think it was from memory, holding the puck too long and waiting to try for a pass; Filpula used to do that a lot but he's found ways to minimize the negative impact of that situation to salvage an attempt. I think he could have shot it hard at Crawford's legpads and maybe have been able to go after a deflection, possibly towards the corner to retrieve and then center or to get to a defenseman.

Smith had a great play coming back on defense on a 2 on 1, he managed to break up the play almost as well as 2 players could have. He helped Jimmy Howard prevent a goal by making both the pass and the shot hard to accomplish.
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2013, 08:58:48 pm »

Second period is over in the Detroit and Chicago game and third is about to start. The Wings had a really good second period. Only one more period to knock out the President's trophy winning team (#1 in regular season standings), as the Wings are 3-2 in the series at home in Joe Louis. Second period was all Wings though Chicago was still playing hard. In the first period both teams had a lot of jump but the Wings had momentum going into the end of the second.

EDIT: Wings lost. I'm kind of mad because of that penalty shot. That's what really changed the game. It could have been a penalty called instead of a penalty shot, and I wouldn't have argued with it. Why does it so often seem to go to game 7 on a referee's call against Detroit somehow? <sportsofficiatingwhineneedsinstantreplay>

Detroit's sticks were seemingly breakable in the third, especially for their defensive defenseman, Quencey. I'd recommend bringing sticks from your most trustworthy (family?) sources if possible for game 7 if I could speak to the Wings, and to play the most conservative game as possible regarding penalty calls of all year for game 7.

EDIT: Mike Babcock made a great point. I should be excited there is even a game 7. I will bow to his wisdom. Here's to a game seven, more hockey for all, and hail to the victors (sorry MSU fans and former hockey team members) of both this and whichever team wins the next game.
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Re: NHL Hockey
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2013, 12:41:32 am »

I'm still pissy that Vancouver is out so early...
please don't riot again canada... you are such nice people only to be riled up by a sport.

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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2013, 01:27:48 am »

If I was a hockey player, I'd obtain my own few sticks for the playoff, test them, and those that are sturdy after a good slash would be used in game. I'd put a little unique mark underneath a piece of tape I know the location of if it by the rulebook the stick must ever leave my hands, and I'd check it during the game when on the bench when I should be paying attention to make sure it was still the stick I bought, inspected, and tested. If at all possible the stick would never leave the same room I was in.

If I was a hockey player I'd also tell all the other hockey players that it's a good idea too. Even the ones on other teams.

A most jaded game 7 for Detroit fans. I expect the team to be jumping for game 7. I also expect Chicago to be playing their best hockey. This will be a high hurdle which the Wings will have to fly over if they were to continue in this series. The Wings are going to have to play their best game of the year if they wish to advance to the next series, because Chicago certainly seems willing to attempt the same.

EDIT: A great game 7 to watch but the Wings lost despite everyone on the team certainly playing hard enough to win, and even worse Filpula was hurt as well. Despite that I would say it was a good season for the Red Wings as a team. They were one of those flukes of hockey from continueing on. It looks to me that this team will be good for years to come. I'd like to see Cleary back on the Detroit team. If Datsyuk chooses to play for Detroit that would be great and preferable to me, but if he would prefer to be near his family in the great country of Russia this Wings fan at least would understand and consider myself priveleged to have been able to watch Pavel Datsyuk play for Detroit while he chose to do so.
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