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Catching Giant Birds
« on: April 29, 2013, 12:22:23 pm »

So, currently there is a few giant peregrine falcons on the map of my new fort. I'm thinking of starting a breeding program to create some kick-ass pets. The first problem I've run in to is that I have no freaking clue how to catch them, short of building cage traps in hopes that they wander into them. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can bait them?
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 12:36:55 pm »

Peregrine falcons are vermin eaters. You could make a checkerboard of cage traps and refuse stockpiles?
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 12:40:15 pm »

Peregrine falcons are vermin eaters. You could make a checkerboard of cage traps and refuse stockpiles?
Not likely, these are giant variants which don't seem to hunt vermin... or do they?
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 12:51:12 pm »

Peregrine falcons are vermin eaters. You could make a checkerboard of cage traps and refuse stockpiles?
Not likely, these are giant variants which don't seem to hunt vermin... or do they?
There is nothing in the raw for GPFs that removes the [DIVE_HUNTS_VERMIN] tag. So I'd say they do indeed hunt vermin.
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 02:20:58 pm »

I recently made a post on something that I found to work for catching birds.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=124874.0

Just like any other creature, you want to think about their pathfinding.  If you can put an obstacle in their path (like a wall) or use a natural obstacle (like a mountain), think about how they will go "around" it.  In the case of birds, they can actually go up and over.  So, building cage traps on top of a wall or mountain in the right place may be a great way to trap them.
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 05:33:55 pm »

Peregrine falcons are vermin eaters. You could make a checkerboard of cage traps and refuse stockpiles?
Not likely, these are giant variants which don't seem to hunt vermin... or do they?
There is nothing in the raw for GPFs that removes the [DIVE_HUNTS_VERMIN] tag. So I'd say they do indeed hunt vermin.
Ah, so they inherit tags of their regular counterparts? I see...
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 06:41:57 pm »

i had a roc fly past my entire fortress just to land on a cage trap on the other end of my fort.

their path finding is weird
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 01:50:12 am »

From experience, giant peregrine falcons do indeed hunt vermin.  However, they rather annoyingly love to fly outside into the waiting arms of the undead hordes.  Seems they have poor eyesight and can't tell the difference between a cockroach and a shambling horror that is a blasphemy against nature.

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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 02:02:40 am »

If you have a lot of vermin hunters, many will start going outside to hunt vermin on the surface. In most biomes, there's a lot of vermin on the surface, and flying creatures are of course even harder to contain than cats.

On the other hand, roaming peregrine falcon herds make for great ambush detectors, though it can get quite annoying to have to wait until the goblins have finished running laps around the fortress.

Giant peregrines saying hello to undead hordes? Hmm, did this result in undead giant peregrine falcons? That would have been almost too fun to be legal.
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 09:19:47 am »

just scatter a bunch of cage traps around on the surface and you'll get some within a few years.  I catch eagles this way and they're not even vermin hunters.  No need to do anything special really.
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2013, 07:26:43 pm »

I'm scattering cage traps, but at the moment they've left the map for a bit. Hopefully they return.
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2013, 09:33:03 pm »

They will. It might take a couple years and you'll probably have a bunch of other giant creatures by then.
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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 07:58:50 pm »

If you have a lot of vermin hunters, many will start going outside to hunt vermin on the surface. In most biomes, there's a lot of vermin on the surface, and flying creatures are of course even harder to contain than cats.

On the other hand, roaming peregrine falcon herds make for great ambush detectors, though it can get quite annoying to have to wait until the goblins have finished running laps around the fortress.

Giant peregrines saying hello to undead hordes? Hmm, did this result in undead giant peregrine falcons? That would have been almost too fun to be legal.

I managed to run into a giant undead eagle once on embark.

Giant peregrines should be quite possible.

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Re: Catching Giant Birds
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2013, 09:38:31 pm »

The way I caught Giant Eagles many versions ago was to build a tower, and near the top put a sacrificial tame animal chained in a roofed room with a one square entrance outside with a cage trap.

If Giant Peregrin Falcons attack tame animals as well as vermins, there is a good chance that eventually one will fly past and decide to enter the tower.
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