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Reudh

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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2013, 03:46:13 pm »

Aha, those I have heard of, Lordbucket, and those I stay away from.

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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2013, 11:23:37 pm »

Buddhists I have known start making conclusions based on pseudo science so I call it magic. For example they are vegetarian because nutrition comes from the earth, so the most direct source must be from plants. Animals are a secondary source since their meat comes from plants, not the earth.

That's actually fairly basic biology, if you substitute 'Earth and Sun' for 'Earth'; plants are first order consumers, herbivores second order, carnivores third; eating plants is IIRC ten times as efficient in terms of 'amount of initial sun energy invested' as eating herbivores, and a hundred as many as eating carnivores (not that we do that very much).
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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2013, 04:34:36 am »

No no no no not a troll.

I may be incorrect but not a troll.

Buddhists I have known start making conclusions based on pseudo science so I call it magic. For example they are vegetarian because nutrition comes from the earth, so the most direct source must be from plants. Animals are a secondary source since their meat comes from plants, not the earth.

That's nonsense. Like saying there are only 4 elements, earth, wind, fire and water. Kinda makes sense but we know better in the 21st century.

But please, no Troll here. I welcome correction. Always. Accuracy is far more important than ego. For me ego doesn't play a role when it comes to truth, it can't.

Socrates was the smartest person in Greece not because he knew the most facts, but because he knew the extent of his own ignorance.

I have no problem with people helping me to know the extent of my ignorance. So, um, not a troll, but maybe too outspoken?
There was a story that a follower of Buddha (can't remember who he was) asked him... I think he asked how many stars there are in the sky... and the Buddha scooped some sand (they were on a beach or something? Gah. I'm making myths sound shitty by directly recalling them) and asked his follower if he could count how many sand there is in his hand. His follower said no. Buddha then asked if he could count the sands on the beach. He said no. Buddha then told him that the sands are like knowledge. We can never know them all.

tl;dr the Lord Buddha doesn't really give a shit about science as long as it allows Buddhism to thrive.

And the local monks in my hometown were omnivores, they probably even ate more meat than vegs. It's only the elderly ones who are vegetarian, because meats aren't good for their digestion.
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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2013, 06:07:58 am »

Why would you join a religion and not learn magic?  That's the best part!
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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2013, 11:35:01 pm »

Buddhists I have known start making conclusions based on pseudo science so I call it magic. For example they are vegetarian because nutrition comes from the earth, so the most direct source must be from plants. Animals are a secondary source since their meat comes from plants, not the earth.

That's actually fairly basic biology, if you substitute 'Earth and Sun' for 'Earth'; plants are first order consumers, herbivores second order, carnivores third; eating plants is IIRC ten times as efficient in terms of 'amount of initial sun energy invested' as eating herbivores, and a hundred as many as eating carnivores (not that we do that very much).

Thank you for illustrating my point.
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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2013, 12:39:26 am »

Most of you are missing the point; every religion has some group of crazies in it, and are generally A-OK provided you can avoid them. Anyway, I think we've scared OP (ScriptWolf) away with our respective ramblings.

Christianity is good provided you can avoid the crazy groups and crazy people.
Islam is good provided you can avoid the crazy groups and crazy people.
Buddhism is good provided you can avoid the crazy groups and crazy people.


What LordBucket linked is a form of Buddhism that's strongly interwoven with Hinduism, and is more of an amalgamated religion than a representative of Buddhism itself.

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Re: Looking into Buddhism
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2013, 02:08:33 am »

No I'm still here.

I was just a little confused i see Buddhism being the most down to earth - does not really believe in a gods and is more about making your self better :P

As reudh said there are lots of secs and groups within all religions each with branching beliefs

Although I'm going to stick with looking into and following Theravāda
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