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SalmonGod

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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2013, 01:19:58 am »

I didn't think you'd be quite that young.  I can understand wanting to go pre-built at your age, although I'd still be surprised if you had no social connections that could get one built for you like the older sibling of a friend or something.

Don't have much advice on buying pre-built.  Here's some hardware advice, though.  If you're building this primarily for gaming.  I've never tried multiple video cards, but I've heard that it's not worth it, like Mullet Master already said.  Most games don't take good advantage of multiple processor cores, so stronger processing power per core is more important to you than number of cores.  I also wouldn't bother going above 8 GB of ram.  Any more than that will only see use if you're doing powerful stuff like professional work in photoshop or 3d rendering software.
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2013, 01:49:19 am »

Here's what scares me about giving advice about any of the prebuilt computers mentioned - 3 years of savings, and wants a recommendation from a random internet person rather than doing own research.
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2013, 02:24:53 am »

Here buy this and be happy plz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229384 kinda sad you arent going to build your own but hell its your money do whatever the fuck you want.

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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2013, 02:25:35 am »


Some computer stores can build your computer for you (my old one was built for 50€ + w7 + the parts). Generally, standart pre built aren't great, and there's no risk with getting a store to build it for you.

Also, it probably belongs to Life Advice
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 02:27:29 am by PanH »
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2013, 02:33:06 am »

Holy fuck, if you're willing to pay $500 to not build a computer, send that cash to me. I'll learn how to do it and build it for you. Shipping and handling are included in that price.
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2013, 02:39:16 am »

Save it for something you need.  If you're explicitly and knowingly willing to spend 500 dollars because you're lazy, you obviously have no real idea of how much the money is worth.

Even given all that, both of those computers are way way way overpowered.  Seriously, you don't need that shit.  My computer cost half what yours did and can run any game out at max graphics or at least close. 

As for IBUYPOWER, my brother got one, the power supply was faulty and surged.  Basically the only thing salvageable was the case, even the fucking disk drive was fried.
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2013, 08:36:49 am »

Here buy this and be happy plz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229384 kinda sad you arent going to build your own but hell its your money do whatever the fuck you want.
Thank you. I was researching a lot of computers online until about... 2:00 AM. I searched E-Bay, Googled it, Google shopped it, and then checked best-buy and found a computer that looked a lot like this one. The only difference is that the one your recommended has 3.50 GHz while the one I found is 3.1 GHZ. Should I get the cheaper one I found? I also found a monitor on sale for $100 and it all adds up to $880. Should I try to get the one your recommended or is the one I found good enough to run... Let's say... Shogun 2 on Ultra Graphics.
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« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 08:41:02 am by AlwayzL3git »
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2013, 08:53:10 am »

Here buy this and be happy plz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229384 kinda sad you arent going to build your own but hell its your money do whatever the fuck you want.
Thank you. I was researching a lot of computers online until about... 2:00 AM. I searched E-Bay, Googled it, Google shopped it, and then checked best-buy and found a computer that looked a lot like this one. The only difference is that the one your recommended has 3.50 GHz while the one I found is 3.1 GHZ. Should I get the cheaper one I found? I also found a monitor on sale for $100 and it all adds up to $880. Should I try to get the one your recommended or is the one I found good enough to run... Let's say... Shogun 2 on Ultra Graphics.
Thank You, Everybody Here Who Contributed--
AlwayzL3git

Don't skimp on the monitor.  It's completely pointless to get a powerhouse computer with a monitor that can't do justice to the graphics you're running.
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2013, 09:01:39 am »

Here buy this and be happy plz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229384 kinda sad you arent going to build your own but hell its your money do whatever the fuck you want.
Thank you. I was researching a lot of computers online until about... 2:00 AM. I searched E-Bay, Googled it, Google shopped it, and then checked best-buy and found a computer that looked a lot like this one. The only difference is that the one your recommended has 3.50 GHz while the one I found is 3.1 GHZ. Should I get the cheaper one I found? I also found a monitor on sale for $100 and it all adds up to $880. Should I try to get the one your recommended or is the one I found good enough to run... Let's say... Shogun 2 on Ultra Graphics.
Thank You, Everybody Here Who Contributed--
AlwayzL3git

Don't skimp on the monitor.  It's completely pointless to get a powerhouse computer with a monitor that can't do justice to the graphics you're running.
I found a monitor from the same site that is a combo package with the computer he recommended. It is $120 and has a review of 5 stars.
Acer S Series S230HL Abd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 100,000,000:1
1920 x 1080 5ms
100,000,000:1
D-Sub, DVI
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2013, 10:17:31 am »

Really, the five hundred dollars is not worth for the computer quality you get with prebuilt. :/

The thing is that there's a lot of opportunity cost involved here >.> You could even ask someone your parents know, or have someone build it for you for 100$, then use the rest on better hardware or save it up.

Computer building is not hard at all, especially if your parts are all compatible with each other. It's mostly a plug-everything-where-it-goes, except for maybe setting the cpu in its cradle. That's still only just applying thermal paste. >.>
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2013, 11:52:18 am »

Here buy this and be happy plz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229384 kinda sad you arent going to build your own but hell its your money do whatever the fuck you want.
Thank you. I was researching a lot of computers online until about... 2:00 AM. I searched E-Bay, Googled it, Google shopped it, and then checked best-buy and found a computer that looked a lot like this one. The only difference is that the one your recommended has 3.50 GHz while the one I found is 3.1 GHZ. Should I get the cheaper one I found? I also found a monitor on sale for $100 and it all adds up to $880. Should I try to get the one your recommended or is the one I found good enough to run... Let's say... Shogun 2 on Ultra Graphics.
Thank You, Everybody Here Who Contributed--
AlwayzL3git
with the processor i picked out its a quadcore with HT(makes it look like a octacore in the computer) that is based at 3.5GHz but has unlocked multipliers so its easy to overclock. that AMD HD7870 is more than capable of running ALOT of games at ultra. Whats the graphics card for the other computer.

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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2013, 02:22:06 pm »

So much trouble from not wanting to build a computer yourself. It's okay OP, I understand your motives. I have a friend who preferred to order an Alienware rather than move his lazy @$$ to build something. Then again, he wanted a gaming laptop, not a desktop, so it was kind of the only choice he had.

I built my machine myself though. I guess I'm one of those types that likes messing with electronics. Just a couple days ago I salvaged my alarm clock for parts I could use to further enhance a robot I built two weeks ago.
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Re: Should I Buy Either of These Computers?
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2013, 03:02:30 pm »

Last prebuilt I had was a Dell 386/33SX. Discovered right then and there that I'd never do a prebuilt again when I wanted to upgrade the video card -- oh, I can't! It's integated and there's no slot for an aftermarket card. And the form factor was proprietary, so couldn't even upgrade the case (this is back before ATX became a standard)
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