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Author Topic: How to interact with people: I dont get it.  (Read 1462 times)

Crazy Horse

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Re: How to interact with people: I dont get it.
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2013, 08:43:43 am »

How to interact with something depends on what it is you want from that something. Find out what it is you want and then go attempt to take it. If nothing else it will keep you busy while you get knocked down attempting it - but no matter because you are too busy to care.

You sound like someone who is brand new to a workplace enviroment. My best advice would be to not allow yourself you worry about it. Your natural homo sapien cunning is your best ally if you only listen. And if someone (or even yourself) tells you that you have a disorder then tell them in turn to go gently caress themselves.
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Re: How to interact with people: I dont get it.
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2013, 10:37:05 pm »

I know exactly how I feel. I'm reasonably certain there's an actual medical name for your situation, complete with books specifically related to the subject, but I don't want to sound insulting if I say it. I know, because I fall under the same category. If you're looking for a more detailed description, shoot me a PM and I'll give you my thoughts.


Through my research, I've found there are two groups of people in this situation.


The first are people like you; nice, happy to let others take control, perfectly happy following rules because they add structure and order to an otherwise chaotic world. That don't have to make a decision for the lesser of two evils, and instead do exactly as the book says. This is fine for much of life, and many of these people find comfort in joining some form of military; strict discipline, no room for interpretation. Bliss for those that follow. However, when it comes to social interaction, problems arise. In a social setting, there are no rules. It's every man for himself, survival of the fittest, the first to the egg wins. With a total lack of predefined conversation, even talking to people is difficult.

The second are somewhat different. They believe that true power resides in strength, and showing no weakness that other people could exploit. I won't go into detail about it, but suffice to say they tend to be a little aggressive.


My advice to you (it sounds harsh, but I don't mean it to be): stop caring. Personally, I over-analyze everything. Every word of every conversation I've ever had has been spin dried and hard washed in my mind dozens of times. It led to severe anxiety, which doesn't help at all. I've found that the thought, "I'm never going to see this person again, and even if I do... what could I possibly say to make them consider me the spawn of satan?". It's actually a recent revelation, but it's made a huge difference in my life. People I couldn't stand to know were alive a few years ago have become good friends, casual conversation is much easier, and people seem to freely speak to me now.


With that out of the way, time for some generic advice.

Prepare for smalltalk. It never made sense to me why people would talk simply because their vocal chords made sound until I started with the cliche'd ideas to help a conversation flow smoothly, which is the singlemost important thing to do when talking to someone. Try to avoid any pause longer than about five seconds with casual things like, "The damn weather can't make up its mind", average things like, "Man, I wish the game of (insert activity here) went better", or personal things like, "Nice shoes, mate. I've had these boots since the stoneage, complete with the craftsmanship. How do those fit?". Anything else can fit; as long as you say something to provoke a response, regardless of what you actually say, you'll find it's easier to chat. "Keep the flow, bro" is my life motto.

You'll find that some people don't want to respond, or do so in a really lackluster way. In that case, screw them. They aren't worth talking to and probably don't have anything intelligent to say anyway.
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Re: How to interact with people: I dont get it.
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2013, 11:25:07 pm »

Through my research, I've found there are two groups of people in this situation.

The first are people like you; nice, happy to let others take control, perfectly happy following rules because they add structure and order to an otherwise chaotic world. That don't have to make a decision for the lesser of two evils, and instead do exactly as the book says. This is fine for much of life, and many of these people find comfort in joining some form of military; strict discipline, no room for interpretation. Bliss for those that follow. However, when it comes to social interaction, problems arise. In a social setting, there are no rules. It's every man for himself, survival of the fittest, the first to the egg wins. With a total lack of predefined conversation, even talking to people is difficult.

The second are somewhat different. They believe that true power resides in strength, and showing no weakness that other people could exploit. I won't go into detail about it, but suffice to say they tend to be a little aggressive.

Heh, both are applicable to different people, but in different situations. There are plenty of things I don't want.. like fame, recognition, and money, and I appear to be very generous and nice in both. There are still other forms of power I do like, which I get aggressive/competitive with.

Power is neutral, not evil or good. It's simply your ability to get what you want (and not do things you don't want). Some people want to be praised (and often get this when they have children). Some people are insecure and want to prove that they're better, in all kinds of social status things like wealth, ranking, and titles. Some, like us introverts, don't care much for scorekeeping, but want the power to be able to avoid boring work all day and play video games or whatever.

And sometimes those motivations conflict. Some people will concede in those conflicts, others will get more aggressive. Often the concession is because you don't really want it that much and value your relationship/calmness/whatever. Sometimes, when we concede, we get some kind of reward for it - not being yelled at, or praise for being so nice. Sometimes when we're aggressive, we get a reward - that thing we wanted. Upon being rewarded, we repeat the same response.. and that leads most of us to develop aggressive or submissive personalities.

That's why you can have what's a normally passive nerd turn violent if his video games are taken from him. Most people can be pacified in some way or another. It's just that a few of them need billions of dollars or a big title to be pacified.

Those of us who are happy with how things work love any form of structure that keeps annoying people out of our faces. We tend to do things by the book because we like the book. The people who hate the book way are the ones who are stifled by the book. E.g. I happily wear my seatbelt when I drive, but will often deny university rules when they tell me I can't wear jeans. People who don't mind wearing non-jeans and fear the university will often support the university's decision to ban jeans.
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