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[joeclark77]

Question for you hackers... I have a great embark site but didn't design the fort as aesthetically as I'd like.  Is there any way to get a do-over, perhaps by re-generating the same world and embark site?  Or is it lost forever?

[wierd]

if you pull the world parameters, you can rebuild the world with a worldgen with "advanced parameters", by filling in all the blanks, including the seed values.

That will let you regenerate a pristine world.


you can learn how to do that here

[joeclark77]

if you pull the world parameters, you can rebuild the world with a worldgen with "advanced parameters", by filling in all the blanks, including the seed values.

That will let you regenerate a pristine world.


you can learn how to do that here

How do I pull the parameters?  I found where they're supposed to appear on the advanced world gen screen (as in the screen shot here), but there's no "last seed" visible on my screen.

[wierd]

did you read the post I linked to?

Savescum your current fortress by copying the save folder. Abandon the fortress, then play that world under legends mode. Export the world parameters.  This will generate a textfile containing all the pertinent data.

[joeclark77]

Oh, sorry, I missed the link.  Much appreciated.

[Mohreb el Yasim]

you can also export an image of your fort (it exports world-gen parameters) then regenerate it. on the other hand you migth need to abandon the original save one (after savecum if you prefere) to see where it was if you do not remember (reclaim shows it nicely)

[joeclark77]

Thanks.  And I figured out on my own that the final step is to copy-paste the worldgen information into the file data/init/worldgen.txt/.

I have to run off to lunch but maybe tonight I'll post some images of my embark for any who are interested.  The embark is a crag overlooking chasms on the east and south, with a river to the north.  A 14-level sheer drop with picturesque waterfall goes down to the lower river.  Across the two chasms are two other good-sized crags.  I'm going to build a castle on one of them, then build workshops into the cliff face with windows so the dwarfs can admire the waterfall.  Enclosed sky-bridges will connect the sides of the chasms but only internally.  No iron ore unfortunately but the map has about everything else you'd want.

[joeclark77]

I posted the surface map to the DF map archive:
http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-11559-rulerbolts

As you can see there are three "crags" separated by steep cliffs, each of which would make a nice spot for a castle.  I'm going to have some fun with this map.  I did a little cheating and I figured out what it has for metals, as well as the best place to put a staircase either to avoid or to exploit the caverns and magma.

[TKGP]

Could you post the worldgen info and location? That's a sweet map indeed.

[joeclark77]

Sure, I meant to do that earlier, just couldn't remember my web hosting password and didn't have a convenient place to put the location image.  Here's the worldgen info:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:JOESWORLD]
   [SEED:Q4i4W0g6KakKawK28Sc4]
   [HISTORY_SEED:eEsi6k0IQOYawE0E2guC]
   [NAME_SEED:GCK8qoQWiE0GmEOOueIm]
   [CREATURE_SEED:qAMuCwUMyiYqUuMcwUYw]
   [DIM:129:129]
   [EMBARK_POINTS:1324]
   [END_YEAR:5]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:5:-1]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
   [ELEVATION:1:400:1600:1600]
   [RAINFALL:0:100:200:200]
   [TEMPERATURE:25:75:200:200]
   [DRAINAGE:0:100:200:200]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:200:200]
   [SAVAGERY:0:100:200:200]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:4:2:0:1:0:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:3:3:2:2:1:1]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [MINERAL_SCARCITY:500]
   [MEGABEAST_CAP:18]
   [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:37]
   [TITAN_NUMBER:9]
   [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
   [DEMON_NUMBER:28]
   [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:14]
   [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:14]
   [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:14]
   [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:14]
   [SECRET_NUMBER:28]
   [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:28]
   [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:28]
   [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:14]
   [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:14]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:0]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:0]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:3]
   [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:1]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:66:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:66:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:264:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:528:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:528:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:16:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:33:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:528:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:528:0:0]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
   [RIVER_MINS:25:25]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
   [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
   [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
   [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:10]
   [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:15]
   [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:40]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
   [SITE_CAP:1040]
   [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
   [ELEVATION_RANGES:8000:1056:528]
   [RAIN_RANGES:528:1056:528]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:528:1056:528]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:4160:2080:520]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:528:1056:528]

Here's the location image:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Note that this is the "reclaim" screen, so the location is not a yellow X.  The site is where the omega symbol (for a dwarf fortress) is on the map.  This is near the far northeast of the world map.

I've used dfhack to show me all the details, so click the spoiler if you want to know them:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The map has an aquifer on level 121, and partial ones on 123 and 120.  You can bypass the ones on 120 and 123 if you dig close to the corner where my wagon is, or the corner of the SE crag (need to build a bridge first, though).  I built on the central crag so I could use the topside river for water power.  The alternative strategy which I just thought of would be to build a bridge to either the SE or SW crag, go down the hill and dig into the stone below the aquifer, then build a sky-bridge out from that, with stairs or ramps to come up above the aquifer and re-enter the earth on whichever side of the cliff you want your soil farms.

There is a cavern spanning levels 93-41, and another on levels -5 to -18.  There is magma between -19 and -25.  Build a 2x2 stairway on the SE crag, at the 13th-14th tiles east and 4th-5th tiles south from the edge, and you will slip right through the donut hole of the first cavern.  (Dig an exit to the W on level 92 if you desire access.)  Move the stairway 4 tiles to the east and it will slip through a donut hole in the second cavern and then the magma.  (To access the deeper cavern, dig a door to the W on level -7.) Magma will be just to the east on level -19.

The map has sphalerite from 105-102, galena from 113-111, tetrahedrite between 101-97 and 93-78.  It has garnierite from 68 to the bottom and has native gold at almost every level.  Seriously has a lot of native gold.  No coal or iron, I'm sad to say.  But it has a crap ton of trees.  You can build and control the bridges between the crags and across the high river, so you can somewhat isolate the areas where your woodsmen will be working.

[vanatteveldt]

Sorry for the bump... I tried to 'load' this map by putting the params in my world_gen.txt file and starting a new world with it in the advanced params menu.

It creates a map that seems to look like it, but rejects it quite late, after the lakes and minerals. The map it generates after that is a water filled region, the northeast corner is more like a tropical island.

I am using df2012 with phoebius on linux, if that matters at all.

Am I doing something wrong?

[JAFANZ]

I just tried it with Phoebus on DF2012 on Win7, 'cos I thought I remembered it affecting worldgen back in DF2010, & got what appears to be basically the same world & embark.

So the issue might be that you're on Linux.

[vanatteveldt]

O that's a shame...

I don't have access to windows... Could you upload the save somewhere?

Cheers!

[JAFANZ]

Generated with LazyNewb & Phoebus, don't think I've modded anything. DFFD > Pre-Generated Worlds > JoesWorld.

edit: I'll (try to) take it down if requested to do so.

[joeclark77]

Thanks JAFANZ, you were welcome to post it.  I try to minimize the number of websites I join, so I didn't want to register at DFFD and here both.