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[Eagle_eye]

Pfft, endorphins aren't everything. You need to give them dopamine too.

But seriously, I don't see the issue with that, aside from the kidnapping squads probably not liking it.

[GreatWyrmGold]

There's a big problem with defining what's "most" important to a society: It implies that that's all that matters. And nothing can EVER fulfill that criterion.

A utopia requires freedom, peace, happiness, and prosperity (IMHO). If any of these things is gained at the expense of two or three others, it's not really much of a utopia.

Any good solution to a major problem is a combination of many smaller solutions, each removing a cause or mitigating an effect. A utopia seeks to fix many (if not all) problems a society has, most of which have vastly different causes and effects. Therefore, it stands to reason that creating a utopia would require a massive number of solutions. (Unless you kill everyone and call it a utopia or something, of course.)

[Loud Whispers]

The point of this thread was to find out what people thought an utopia to be. Ie, what would your ideal civilization be?

Hive minded individuals. Collective thought of everyone pooled together. You will be assimilated into co-operative individuality.

[Scoops Novel]

Pfft, endorphins aren't everything. You need to give them dopamine too.

But seriously, I don't see the issue with that, aside from the kidnapping squads probably not liking it.

None of the happyness being authentic?

[Eagle_eye]

If the chemicals in the brain are the same, the happiness is the same. We're fundamentally mechanical creatures, we just happen to be so ridiculously complex we can't tell most of the time.

[misko27]

There's a big problem with defining what's "most" important to a society: It implies that that's all that matters. And nothing can EVER fulfill that criterion.

A utopia requires freedom, peace, happiness, and prosperity (IMHO). If any of these things is gained at the expense of two or three others, it's not really much of a utopia.

Any good solution to a major problem is a combination of many smaller solutions, each removing a cause or mitigating an effect. A utopia seeks to fix many (if not all) problems a society has, most of which have vastly different causes and effects. Therefore, it stands to reason that creating a utopia would require a massive number of solutions. (Unless you kill everyone and call it a utopia or something, of course.)

You know what they say about buying things? You got Three options: "You can have it fast and cheap, but not good, you can have it good and cheap, but not fast, or you can have it fast, and good, but not cheap".

[Moghjubar]

The point of this thread was to find out what people thought an utopia to be. Ie, what would your ideal civilization be?

Hive minded individuals. Collective thought of everyone pooled together. You will be assimilated into co-operative individuality.

A Utopia of one person. Seems legit.

[SalmonGod]

I think there's a difference between happiness and fulfillment, and what people really desire is fulfillment, which calls for a diversity of experience.  Chemical happiness doesn't cut it.

[alway]

A utopia is a world where humans/sentients are free to pursue self-improvement, rather than means-improvements. Could be accomplished via an AI in control of automated means of production.
A dystopia is a world where the struggle to provide for needs excludes the ability for self-improvement, where humans are controlled, either explicitly through tyranny or implicitly through socio-economic structures, to the point where they are nearly automata.