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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #150 on: December 16, 2012, 10:39:50 am »

Dilemma:
Arts that are practiced in a sportsmanlike context are incomplete and inefficient.
Unsportsmanlike techniques (e.g. doing something nasty to the opponents' eyes, nose, groin or joints) are difficult to practice and often inappropriate.
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #151 on: December 16, 2012, 11:01:22 am »

Mix karate, kick boxing and qwuan ki dao.

Octagon partecipan all practice mixed stiles
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« Reply #152 on: December 16, 2012, 11:30:18 am »

Ive found the 'im a big guy' thing can be a bit of a bad thing when it actually comes down to blows, as you said, you havent been in a fight for years, I was the shortest kid in my highschool and had to fight more than a bit just to keep a lid on guys who thought they could bully me because they were bigger than me.  Ive taken down a few guys who had over a foot on me.  Usually because of the fact that the guy didnt expect me to actually hit him.  As stated above, first blood and a willingness to do violence will win alot of fights.  Especially if the first blow crunches the nose, pretty much blinds the other guy and you then hit him again in exactly the same spot.
Yeah, you're definitely right, I'm very much inexperienced in fighting so I wouldn't really put up a coherent defence or attack. Thing is, if I do get a lucky shot in (which isn't all that unlikely with my reach), you will definitely feel it. I've got some darn heavy hands on me, hands that are used to carrying cement sacks and wooden beams. I reckon a single solid headshot could give most people a concussion. The odds of me actually getting that shot in aren't that high, but with a risk of damage as high as that most people will accept the olive branch if they can do it with their honour intact.

As for the hit first thing, I've seen it in action plenty of times from a friend of mine. He's short and wiry, but he's bold as hell. He never lets the usual pre-fight protocol go through, with shoving etc. He just responds to the first shove with a punch, and then keeps coming so the other guy doesn't have a chance to get his bearings. It worked flawlessly every time I've seen it.
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #153 on: December 16, 2012, 12:36:54 pm »

Yeah, fights usually don't keep going for minutes like in the movies. That's why the first punch is very important.

Of course, if both sides are determined to turn each other into a pile of gore, fight can go on for some time. But that's usually not the case when dealing with strangers. Most people are willing to avoid a fight with their dignity if they can.
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« Reply #154 on: December 16, 2012, 12:57:02 pm »

Getting that punch in is far from guaranteed, though, unless it's a total sucker punch. If I'm expecting a fight at all my arms will be at the ready to intercept you. I probably won't completely stop it, but with all the space that my long arms give me I'll have room to shave it down to a fraction of it's original strength. And the initial conditions will be at my max reach, because every tall guy is well aware of the advantage of his long reach and will try to maintain it in the lead-up to the fight.
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #155 on: December 16, 2012, 12:57:50 pm »

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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #156 on: December 16, 2012, 08:44:50 pm »


In a fistfight, when you know there won't be any weapons or objects used as such: Wing chun

For real life situations: Krav Maga (as said before).

Weapon Techniques: Kali-Eskrima-Arnis.

Also check: Systema

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If you decide to start training, remember to check the credentials of your school. In the case of Krav Maga, Wing Chun and Systema, there are international federations with lists of official training centers and teachers.
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« Reply #157 on: December 17, 2012, 09:03:26 pm »

just a quick note on the idea that strength is not important if you are really good.
most people cant throw a punch with there full strength at a hard body part(i.e. head), there hands just arent up to it.

but real mindset is the real way fights are won, if you can be more brutal and aggressive than the other guy then you can win.
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #158 on: December 17, 2012, 09:29:37 pm »

I've heard from an actual Krav-Maga instructor that even if you are a martial arts "master", a simple tool is still a significant advantage in a fight. On the grounds that I would consider fighting without a tool stupid, I think the best martial arts are those made for regulated tournament fighting because sparring is fun.
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I miss sparring. I don't do much in the way of physical sports anymore either. :/
« Last Edit: December 17, 2012, 09:35:18 pm by Zyxl »
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #159 on: December 17, 2012, 09:48:41 pm »

Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP)
Tai Chi.


MCMAP teaches you good knife fighting (accept you will be cut, it is inevatable. So make the enemy cut you where it does the least harm to you while you cut them where it hurts them the most.)

MCMAP is really strength meeting strength, which is the opposite of Tai Chi's redirection of force. My style switches freely between them, but the fighting idea behind it all is MCMAP's one mind, any weapon. It works out very, very well.  Barroom brawls and random attackers are easily handled with whatever force is appropiate. I don't do MMA though.
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