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[Robosaur]

I think there should be ways in place to handle combat from inside minecarts, swinging from trapezes, or freefalling from many Z-levels above ground (which would mean falling speed should be slowed down a bit). So pretty much, badass action sequences in general.

[Babylon]

I don't think this needs to be implemented any time soon.  It might be neat, but I'd much rather see other things first.

[Talvieno]

Realistically, just seven seconds would be long enough to fall from z-level 0 to z-level -100. There would be absolutely no hope of surviving a fall like that, even into water. The most a human could survive would be about 100 feet, which would be over in less than two and a half seconds. Combat while falling is almost definitely out, at least, unless Toady One decides to make worlds have custom gravity. I don't see that happening anytime soon at all.

You can actually already fight someone from inside a minecart. As to trapezes, they aren't even in the game at the moment.

[Robosaur]

what if you're [strk]gandalf[/strk] one of the most powerful heroes of your land, gaining the secrets of combat from a slab from a god of war and you're taking on [strk]a balrog[/strk] a powerful demon who built a spire 100s of z-levels above the ground and is challenging you to a fight on its roof?

also I personally think of 1 z level as about two stories, so yeah.

[Talvieno]

I greatly respect Tolkien, but Gandalf's fall into the abyss was a perfect example of DidNotDoTheResearch. Gandalf shouldn't have survived, unless he cast some sort of slow-fall spell, which I think he would've mentioned. That said, Toady One defines one z level as 3 meters high, making it approximately one story, not two.

I do like the idea of fighting in midair. I just don't think it makes sense.

[Robosaur]

well obv. gandalf had a slow fall spell.
whose to say MR LEGENDARY HERO doesn't have one either?
or just the ability to magically nullify fall damage even if the impact is way harder than a blow from a demon that the spell does not nullify.

[Talvieno]

Mr. Legendary Hero wouldn't have a slow-fall spell, because the only magic that currently exists ingame is necromancer magic, and from what I understand, Toady is leaning away from generic spells and favoring something more dynamic.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Some sort of slow-fall spell will probably be possible, though.
I can see a pair of combatants exchanging blows over 3-5 seconds if they fell near enough to each other. In time, I mean. Certainly, someone at the bottom should be able to shoot a person falling at them if they have a crossbow or something.

[EnigmaticHat]

If you bring fliers into the equation it could be relevant.  For example, guy at the top of an air battle gets shot down without being killed, then stabs someone at the bottom of the air battle while falling.  Then goes splat.

[Damiac]

Ahh... Gandalf also fought the thing underwater... and then sort of... died and came back from the dead.  There was more going on there than just the fact that he survived a long fall.

Like how the eagle said he weighed almost nothing afterward, and it somehow made him more powerful.  Things got rather... Jesusy there...

The idea of being able to attack things in mid-air seems like a cool idea.  Can fliers fight in mid-air?

[dwarfhoplite]

Gandalf was one of the mightiest of Manwe's maiar = divine origin

[Damiac]

Hmm.  I only read the hobbit and the lord of the rings trilogy (I don't care what the foreword says, it's a trilogy, and has never ever been published as 6 books).

Do they go into his origins in the other books, by his son?

[dwarfhoplite]

Tolkien himself considered Silmarillion his most important work. It's the history of Middle Earth.

[Damiac]

I tried to read it once, and got bored fast.  But that was a long time ago.  Maybe I'll give it a try again.

[dwarfhoplite]

I've already read it seven times. It's a tiring read but still very beautiful.