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Author Topic: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)  (Read 2805 times)

i2amroy

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Re: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2012, 08:58:52 pm »

BTW, the numbers given on the 'prospect all' in dfhack... what to they translate to in real game terms?  Is the quantity given the exact number of tiles, which then I can divide by 4 to see how much I have (I want to see if I have enough silver to start making silver bolts without wasting it all)
They are the number of tiles, yes. Also keep in mind that if you are doing this on the embark screen then those numbers are just generalized estimates, you won't be able to tell the exact number unless you actually embark and do 'prospect all' again.
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Re: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2012, 04:29:20 am »

I have to think about whether or not I will want to use the smelting exploit.  It seems cheatey, but at the same time easy to justify with the game giving me no usable metals.

Cheating is easiest to justify by the fact that the game is unfinished and unbalanced in the first place. That being said, you do too have useable metals, as has been pointed out, just not for armor or edged weapons. For blunt weapons and ranged weapons, you have the best metal in the game, I believe. Do you have any animals or leather, for armor and (especially) shields?

By the way, you don't have to divide the resource numbers from DFhack by 4, IIRC, as 1/4 tiles drops ore, but each ore yields 4 bars.
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Re: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2012, 04:57:36 am »

I ended up in a similar situation to this, and my fort's five years strong. I just made mace, hammer, and bolts. With my melee dwarves indoors, and the marksdwarves behind fortifications. I suffered minimal casualties, almost all due to my bridge-a-pult, and just farmed the bolts that were thrown at me. Iron longswords and bolts became breastplates and caps, and now all is well. Plus trading clothes and powders for useful metals.

It's still going well.
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Re: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2012, 04:35:16 pm »

I like to use lead to build Verticle Bars behind my bridges and link to a separate lever.  I guess cages would be an option, but your dwarfs will move slowly when hauling it to the stockpile once a prisoner is captured.

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Re: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 06:19:53 am »

Let me guess, you too ended up with dwarftons of galena? I know that feeling.
I even had three magma smelters with four dedicated dwarves constantly working, and just the discovery of new seams together with the alread accumulated stones ended up requiring more than a year of labor, ending up with almost a thousand bars of lead and roughly 300 of silver.
Even with all of my furniture made out of lead by my well-timed moody blacksmith.

What did I do with it? I mass-produces silver maces, filling up every entrance to the fortress with traps loaded with them, then used the resulting Legendary+5 weaponsmith to arm a full squad of hammerdwarves with masterwork war hammers.
I used the lead as my only source of everything I could, from bins to furniture, buying out the caravan each year with lead crafts.
Meanwhile, the miners found more and more veins while training into a Legendary+5 spec ops team, and a good part of my fortress was employed soloely in my metal industry, wheelbarrowing stones up from the mines to the smelters, stacking bars in neat piles and occasionally collecting some goblinite stuck in the traps.
I still had 500 or so lead bars when the fort died a few years later, to a flying titan.
Damn flyers don't give a shit about mace traps.
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Re: Non military grade metals and what to do with them (silver and lead)
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2012, 04:36:51 pm »

I'm going to put my weight beh8nd the people who advocate using the silver for traps. They may not be good for cutting wweapons, but they make awesome  bludgeoning ones. A row of silver smashy traps ought to incapacitate almost everything that comes your way.
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