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Funslayer

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Civilized monster adventures?
« on: November 26, 2012, 04:51:25 pm »
I have heard of people altering the game to play as monster outsiders, but outsiders only spawn with a crappy spear, dagger, and no backpack. I tried making a civ in entity_default with the settings for spawning with a backpack and decent weapons, and i put adventure_tier at like 12 but nothing happens. If any of you could provide some modding knowledge, it would be extremely helpful. Thanks.
EDIT: Also, i put the civ entry above dwarves if that helps.
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Re: Civilized monster adventures?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 12:30:31 am »
I think the adventure tier tag only changes how much adventuring gets done  by members of that civ in worldgen. Also, could you post the exact raws you used for their civ? That might help to see if there's anything wrong.

Also, there are mods to be found in the modding subforum - like Wanderer's Friend - that add crafting beyond simple sharpened rocks.

And thirdly (and you'll probably see this a lot): Modding questions will be more expediently - and accurately - answered in the modding subforum. It's best to ask them there.
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Re: Civilized monster adventures?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 01:33:30 am »
In the creature file add the tag [EQUIPS].  If the monster has an active civ, you will start off with some standard equipment.  You will likely have to mod the entity_default file as well to create the civ.  It would not hurt to add Permitted Reaction tags and weapon/armor tags for this new monster civ.  Outsiders will always have only a spear and dagger.
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Re: Civilized monster adventures?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 08:17:31 am »
If it helps at all the creature is a gnome, and i tried putting [EQUIPS] and modding entity_default and making a new civ, but the problem is that ADVENTURE_TIER won't make the race playable in adventure mode.
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Re: Civilized monster adventures?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 09:28:30 am »
Tier has, iirc got to be chronological.  So, if gobs, hums, elve, and dwarves are all adventurers, than the next civ that is would have to be tier 5.  Or 6, if you modded the kobolds.

If a creature has no graspy parts, it cannpt use a weapon or wrestle.  Even the kind plays a part.  A a hand can do more than a mouth, and a mouth can do things the upper arm cannot.  I hear stories of giant scorpions using crossbows they wrested from poor dwarves to arrow spam them.  Not that they'd need to, they have that awesome stinger.

If the race is not sentient, than your options will be limited as well.  Gibberish, too.  Ask in modding.  Move the thread to modding section.
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Re: Civilized monster adventures?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 11:48:59 pm »
Quote from: pisskop on November 27, 2012, 09:28:30 am
Tier has, iirc got to be chronological.  So, if gobs, hums, elve, and dwarves are all adventurers, than the next civ that is would have to be tier 5.  Or 6, if you modded the kobolds.

No. I have my tiers in Fortbent at 413, 612 and 1025 and it works perfectly well.

Quote from: Argonnek on November 27, 2012, 12:30:31 am
I think the adventure tier tag only changes how much adventuring gets done  by members of that civ in worldgen. Also, could you post the exact raws you used for their civ? That might help to see if there's anything wrong.

Nope, less than that, even. It changes the position on the list of creatures you can adventure as when starting adventure mode.

Your best bet, TC, is to make a reaction that lets you make a backpack and decent weapons.
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