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Author Topic: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad  (Read 2690 times)

acetech09

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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 08:57:58 pm »

Kobolds don't have [SIEGER] tag.

They do have [SKULKING] however. That makes siege/ambush based off of theft. It's the kobold tag that makes kobolds all koboldy.
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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2012, 09:37:51 pm »

The only difference being - Dwarves can dig deeper, Kobolds cannot.
Why do you think they're constantly stealing the dwarfs' stuff? They just wanna be as cool and DANGEROUS as dwarfs. Awwww...
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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 10:44:18 pm »

Kobolds don't have [SIEGER] tag.
Goblins don't either, but they still send "sieges." The sieger tag actually makes them perform an extended siege. Without it, they spawn and immediately bumrush you. With it, they sit and make camp for a month or two before bumrushing you. Only humans and dwarves have the [SIEGER] tag.

Similarly, the [AMBUSHER] tag makes all attacking forces a civ sends begin in ambush. They'll still send ambushes in ambush without it, but with it sieging forces also start in ambush. Combining the [AMBUSHER] and [SIEGER] tags results in enemies that sit hidden at the edge of the map, with the only sign of their presence being a campfire, which can be pretty easy to overlook. It's actually kinda terrifying because you could go a whole month past the expected due date of the next siege and make the assumption that this season's gonna be perfectly safe so it's a-okay to let the dwarves out to do whatever, before getting ambushed by multiple siege-platoon-sized groups.

The [SKULKING] tag that acetech mentioned causes them to send attacks based upon thieves' success rates. More success leads to more attacks. the [ITEM_THIEF] tag actually makes them send thieves to steal your items - and makes them hostile to all other entities by default. ([BABYSNATCHER] makes them send thieves to kidnap youths, like goblins.)

Kobolds have [AMBUSHER], [ITEM_THIEF], and [SKULKING]. This means you'll rarely see sieges unless their thieves just keep taking all your crap and you keep making it easier on them, but that when they do send a siege, you won't be ready for it unless you're watching the clock/paranoid 100% of the time.
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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2012, 10:49:26 pm »

Now as a rebuttal, I will remind you that the strange dog looking things get easily eaten by real dogs. a mass of strong war creatures will easily rip the siege to shreds as soon as it decides to die. I mean we're talking about kobolds here, The things are weaklings. Any armed dwarf in my fort could easily dispatch the bastards.
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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2012, 11:03:35 pm »

But if they're wearing the artifact adamantine breastplates they've stolen from you then you're in trouble. Although given the sort of artifacts that normally get made, it's more likely they'd be waving around Ckflokfthul, a gabbro grate.
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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2012, 11:57:42 pm »

But if I am krenshala, Legendary Miscellaneous Object User and wielder of Ckflokfthul the Gabbro Grate, you could still be in trouble when me and my 30 siblings arrive to try and steal your silk socks. :D
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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2012, 03:30:41 am »

Now as a rebuttal, I will remind you that the strange dog looking things get easily eaten by real dogs. a mass of strong war creatures will easily rip the siege to shreds as soon as it decides to die. I mean we're talking about kobolds here, The things are weaklings. Any armed dwarf in my fort could easily dispatch the bastards.
Eh, they can still bring enough bowbolds to kill civilian farmers.

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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2012, 03:41:15 am »

and they are infamous for getting in lucky shots with those damn daggers

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Re: WTF: I just got raided by a kobold squad
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2012, 09:02:34 am »

Yeah those bolds are nice. They've once helped me to break undead siege. A bunch of kobolds jumped out of hyperspace right near one of necros making the latter unable to raise things anymore and luring all the zombies to their position while my dwarves jumped out of secret tunnel near another necro. Only bowbold managed to escape the horde though.
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