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[Mimodo]

First up, it appears there is only a one-way relationship between grandparents and grandkids... This is what I'm unsure about. Grandparents are listed in relationships, but grandchildren are not. Does this mean that one will get an unhappy thought if his grandmother dies, yet if the grandmother wouldn't care less if her grandchild died? I'm actually interested in mapping out this family tree, and I have a feeling that with all these couples in the fortress, there's going to be a lot more children popping out soon (3 since the last migrant wave)

So since almost my entire fortress seems to be related in some way or other, I decided to try and do a little "family history" and try and find whoever it was that raised this immense family of dwarves with the same skillsets (5 migrant waves, all with military as highest attribute)

So, I go to one of the newest dwarves, in the migrant wave arriving at the moment... His grandmother and grandfather is in the fortress. Go to grandmother, turns out her parents are in the fortress too. Her mother turns out to be the one that just gave birth to a new baby girl, at 92 years old...

So, technically this baby is the original dwarf's great auntie, despite the fact that she is many years younger... This just proves dwarves stay fertile many years after most humans have become senile

As to what these two of my oldest dwarves have been up to...
They have 9 children between them
he is 99 years old, and is one of 14 children, of which none are in the fortress with him.
He has 24 nieces, of which 10 are in the fortress
He has 23 nephews, or which 14 are in the fortress

She is 92 years old , and one of 10 children. She has one sibling in the fortress, which I will follow up
She has only 10 nieces, of which 4 are in the fortress
And she has 8 Nephews, of which 3 are in the fortress

Her older brother ties for the oldest with her spouse, at 99 years old.
This guy has 5 children, and is married, although only 3 of his children are with him, and his wife is not
The rest of his relations are the same as his sister

[slink]

I have seen this often.  It appears that migrants know all of their ancestors but nothing beyond their own children among their descendants.  I examine each migrant as they enter the map and assign them a clan name.  Sometimes a migrant entering the map will tie together two clans that previously appeared to be separate, because he or she is the grandchild of one of them.  In the most extreme cases, my fortress has eventually proved to be all one clan, when the population limit was set to 200 so there were a large number of migrants.  In the opposite extreme, sometimes they were all computer-generated random Dwarves with no relationships at all, when the civilization they came from was essentially dead.  I don't find the latter case to be very much fun, but for someone wanting to emphasize military it would be ideal.

[XXSockXX]

Great-grandparents also don't show up in the relation screen. In my fort, a good third of the population are descendants of the King, but only his children and grandchildren list him as a relative. Still gonna get weird when he dies. The queen is 110 and still gives birth from time to time.
Also while dwarfs can marry their cousins and uncles/aunts, these are never listed as "lover", but remain "cousin" until they marry.


If your dwarfs are overall happy from booze/rooms/food/furniture it will not be problem if everyone is related. I rather find that a dwarf with 50 friends is less upset if someone dies than a dwarf with just 2 friends. Making/talking to friends gives happy thoughts, so let them socialize and if you don't have a big number of dwarfs die at once they should take less of a hit.

[killerx243]

Also while dwarfs can marry their cousins and uncles/aunts, these are never listed as "lover", but remain "cousin" until they marry.

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[krenshala]

Great-grandparents also don't show up in the relation screen. In my fort, a good third of the population are descendants of the King, but only his children and grandchildren list him as a relative. Still gonna get weird when he dies. The queen is 110 and still gives birth from time to time.
Also while dwarfs can marry their cousins and uncles/aunts, these are never listed as "lover", but remain "cousin" until they marry.

I've personally seen (historical) migrants arrive that have great-grandparents (all four) listed in their relationship screen.  None of my fortresses have lasted long enough for "local" families to progress that far however.

If your dwarfs are overall happy from booze/rooms/food/furniture it will not be problem if everyone is related. I rather find that a dwarf with 50 friends is less upset if someone dies than a dwarf with just 2 friends. Making/talking to friends gives happy thoughts, so let them socialize and if you don't have a big number of dwarfs die at once they should take less of a hit.

I wonder if this works just like the "oh noes, one of my masterpeices was (destroyed|stolen)!" situation, where the more they have the less any one of them affects their mood.