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Evil Knievel

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« on: July 03, 2012, 07:28:44 am »

Hi!
Those of you who do rememeber ADOM (Ancient domains of Mistery) might be interested: Thomas started up an all-or-nothing crowd funding attempt to ressurect ADOM's development after so many years.

http://www.indiegogo.com/resurrect-adom-development

For those who don't now what i am talking about: Adom is a the Game that brought me to roguelikes and to DF eventually. It's one of my favourate addictions.

Cheers!

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Re: regarding ADOM
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 07:42:39 am »

Isn't he working on Jade now? Why develop both games?

Also, this might be better off in other games.
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Re: regarding ADOM
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 07:45:04 am »

Wrong sub forum, as Karlito notes. Also, there's already a thread for this.
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Re: regarding ADOM
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 09:25:56 am »

ok, thanks. well, never mind then.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 10:49:32 am »

Hey, you know what would be awesome. ANOTHER Escaped Lunatic coming in to pump this guy's project.
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Re: regarding ADOM
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 09:25:49 pm »

Hey, you know what would be awesome. ANOTHER Escaped Lunatic coming in to pump this guy's project.

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 09:27:50 pm »

Hey, you know what would be awesome. ANOTHER Escaped Lunatic coming in to pump this guy's project.
If it gives you the vindication you desire, I can rereg and do so.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 10:50:39 pm »

ADOM always felt complete to me...

What exactly am I funding?

Also WHY would I EVER fund a true blue roguelike? They are games based around reading FAQs and Wikis to beat... and while there are exceptions, ADOM isn't one of them.

Or is ADOM the Dungeons and dragons one...

Hmmm
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 11:29:25 pm »

ADOM always felt complete to me...

What exactly am I funding?

Also WHY would I EVER fund a true blue roguelike? They are games based around reading FAQs and Wikis to beat... and while there are exceptions, ADOM isn't one of them.

Or is ADOM the Dungeons and dragons one...

Hmmm
Hey, be fair. Almost all roguelikes, including ADOM, have been beat strictly spoiler free before. No wikis, no faqs. It just takes a ridiculously longer amount of time, usually :P Though there's some roguelike mad people who pick up new RLs and just demolish them out of habit, but I half suspect some of them are either nascent AIs or dark gods from beyond the edge of space.

Forget how many attempts it took that guy that no-spoiled nethack. Can't remember if it was over two or twenty thousand games, hah. But the dude did it. Took several years, but 'e did it.

There's a couple exceptions to that rule, though. I don't think anyone managed to crack IVAN until they code dived, but IVAN's kinda hostile toward anything resembling sane play.

Anyway, check the other thread to see what it's supposed to fund. General answer seems to be OS-compatibility update and more content, iirc.

The major dnd roguelike is Incursion, not ADOM. Probably a few others, but that's the most complete one I know of. Inc's definitely winnable without spoilers, though, and in a fairly sane time frame. The manual's very clear and most of mechanics are quite transparent. Only took me a couple dozen splats before I won my first Inc game, heh.
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Re: regarding ADOM
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 01:35:04 am »

Hey, you know what would be awesome. ANOTHER Escaped Lunatic coming in to pump this guy's project.

Yes, it does not look so nice, but I did not sign up for this. In fact I am lurking for a few years here, signed up back then to vote on eternal suggestions.

Reading forums from time to time but posted only very little. This time, well, this thing does not spread itself, does it?

So please forgive me.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 03:20:11 am »

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I don't think anyone managed to crack IVAN until they code dived, but IVAN's kinda hostile toward anything resembling sane play

To me IVAN is probably the BEST example of how to do a death filled Roguelike right. You will die, you will die a lot, but once you get the hang of the game (which you can do without a guide, at least without spoilers) the skills you develop are real and you can start to get through without exploiting the heck out of it.

Until the Enner Beast and beyond (Enner Beast sort of is the check point so to speak) where quite litterally people use game mechanics that
A) Is never revealed in the game
and
B) Isn't shown in the game

In otherwords IVAN, an excellent roguelike and even outright better then nethack in every sense, becomes the steriotype of every single thing holding roguelikes back from being great and loses its title.

But still I cannot remember if ADOM is the game I am thinking of or not. Ohh I know!

Does ADOM have a tourist class?
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2012, 03:25:34 am »

But still I cannot remember if ADOM is the game I am thinking of or not. Ohh I know!

Does ADOM have a tourist class?
Nope. Nethack does, but it's about the only major roguelike that has a tourist class, iirc. Now, there's many other RLs that nod at nethack's tourist, but none of the other major ones do it, I think.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2012, 03:31:53 am »

But still I cannot remember if ADOM is the game I am thinking of or not. Ohh I know!

Does ADOM have a tourist class?
Nope. Nethack does, but it's about the only major roguelike that has a tourist class, iirc. Now, there's many other RLs that nod at nethack's tourist, but none of the other major ones do it, I think.

There is this other game that basically outright copies Nethack, except it has a much better graphical interface made for it.

Sinks and Fountains are involved... and there are statues you can pick up for no real reason.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 06:10:02 am »

Talkin' 'bout Slash'em? It's basically a nethack mod with graphics. Haven't really played it, so dunno about the statues.
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