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[PsychicKid]

The threshold for seiges is 80 dorfs, and I just had an absolutely epic showdown between 100 goblins, 9 average military dorfs, and 160 non-military dorfs that resulted in a massive bloodbath and 9 8 7 survivors and 1 tantrumming child. Since I'm down so low, will goblins still seige me since I crossed the threshold already? What about normal ambushes (or is that wealth only?)? I set the Titan attack threshhold to 15 Dorfs for extra !!fun!!, but will they still come if I dip below the threshold?

Thanks!

[Finn]

Short answer, yes, they will come.

[caddybear]

Not going to stop when they start coming. I think. I had a few years without sieges after I defeated them back to back for a while and got bored.
Is it possible to beat the green masses?

[Loud Whispers]

Not going to stop when they start coming. I think. I had a few years without sieges after I defeated them back to back for a while and got bored.
Is it possible to beat the green masses?

Yes, but you won't do it with Dwarf muscle, with notable exceptions. Drop a mountain on them when they come, it achieves the desired effect.

[vjek]

16 years into this fort, I've just crossed the 1400 killed goblins mark.

No signs of slowing, with 6 separate goblin civs all clamoring to siege the fort.

There's at least 25k more goblins in the world, so plenty of fun remains.  I am envious of your 100 goblin siege, though, best I've seen so far is 88 invaders.  I am starting to think the size of the goblin siege may be directly proportional to the number of dwarves in the fort.  More testing required!

[Loud Whispers]

I am starting to think the size of the goblin siege may be directly proportional to the number of dwarves in the fort.  More testing required!

It's wealth orientated, more shiny objects on display = more goblins trying to take said shiny items.

[vjek]

I am starting to think the size of the goblin siege may be directly proportional to the number of dwarves in the fort.  More testing required!

It's wealth orientated, more shiny objects on display = more goblins trying to take said shiny items.

Hm. I've seen no difference between 200M wealth and 600M wealth.  Still can't break the 100 goblin mark.  I've also seen no difference with caravans or without (zero imports, zero exports, no difference than millions of each).

What's the current reasoning behind the number of goblins in the siege being wealth based?

[PsychicKid]

Well, 100 was a bit of a hyperbole. I went to the Other Creatures tab (or whatever it's called) and saw about 110. There were a few owls outside, maybe 4 troglodytes in the basement, a dozen or so trolls, and the rest were goblins. Still, it might as well have been 100. It was pretty intense. I better seal my fort up so the survivors can cleanup. How should I clean up all the corpses, body parts, etc?

1) Magma chute (will take a long time because I've not dug to magma yet and all of my miners are dead)
2) Atom smasher