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[Aisher]

I recruited 10 my new immigrant in to 5 separated squads, 2 dorf for each, setup baracks, etc, etc. They all seems endlessly sparring, dodging, fighting. After some time i check with dwarfterapist their skill and find that while only 2 become grandmaster fighter/accomplished sworddwarf other 8 still around adept fighter/proficient sworddwarf. So what the matter? They all started as peasants w/o any fighting skill and spent equal time in barrack training

[knutor]

Dunno.  The teacher/student attributes, used to modify the speed in the last version.  Do any have leadership values, both high and low, as I am guessing that they modify teacher/student numbers.

There is no way to tell how much time they spent training, so your estimate of equal time, won't hold water.  Some go on more breaks, some are lazy asses, and some take longer breaks, when they do go on breaks.  A soldier will, go to individual training, regardless of furniture with the 'I' flag.  Some may have spent more time on their day job.. booze drinking, some do have URGES.  HEH!

Interesting test tho.  What kind of swords did they all have?  Training swords?  Or stone swords.  Knutor

[Aisher]

They equipped with steel armor/swords

They on active duty all year so no civilian jobs. As far as i noticed, at any given time there 6 out of 10 are in baracks sparring or lead/watch fighting demonstration etc.

I thought about teacher trait, at first '1' and '4' are assigned in one squad, but then ive assign '1' with '5' to teach him. no much progress after a half year passed.

[AWdeV]

Probably due to differing personalities and skills. Some dwarfs take longer breaks than others, some go to the least accessible food stockpiles for a drink, some go and clean themselves more often, yadda yadda. In short, their training time hasn't been equal and there's little to nothing you can do about it.

That said, an adept swordsdwarf is plenty capable of vanquishing most foes.

[xeniorn]

@Aisher:

You've... Numbered your dwarves. O.o That's quite perverse in a df kind of way.

[greycat]

They all seems endlessly sparring, dodging, fighting.

They always spar?

at any given time there 6 out of 10 are in baracks sparring or lead/watch fighting demonstration etc.

Ah, no.  They don't always spar.  They're also doing demonstrations.

The amount of randomness in military training is staggering.  There's relatively little you can do to control it.  If you've optimized all the variables that are controllable (proximity of food, booze, beds; squad size; same weapon types; no new equipment being produced that they have to go get), then you're simply at the mercy of dwarven whims.

[GoldenShadow]

The more dwarfs in a squad, the longer that squad takes to train. a pair of 2 can go from soft squishy recruit to legendary warriors in 1-2 years. The more dwarfs you add to the squad, the more time is wasted on demonstrating and organizing demonstrating waiting for everyone to show up.
From the skill levels of your squad, if you split up into 5 squads of 2 each and gave them 5 seperate barracks to train in, you could have them all at legendary in less than a year.

[greycat]

Do the separate barracks actually matter?

[GoldenShadow]

I don't know. I just like to have separate rooms for each squad.

[nightwhips]

Off topic, but... are they all legendary comedians? What's with that?

[Mushroo]

Looking at your chart, there seems to be an inverse relationship between Fighting and the social skills.

Therefore I hypothesize that you might benefit from socially isolating your squads so that they can concentrate on training without distractions.

[gzoker]

If they got all that social skill from talking with each other, then you are going to see one hell of a tantrum spiral.

[Loud Whispers]

1. You'll want three Dwarf squads set to spar for two
2. Peasants. With no combat skills.
A three Dwarf squad with one soldier with skills/teaching skills + two new recruits = training squad