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Author Topic: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth  (Read 1087 times)

Hubris Incalculable

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So, i decided that i wanted to make an alternate earth with magic, so i began to write an essay on how magic works. Here's what i have so far.

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Aztec Magic is going to be based on the use of animal skins to gain the abilities of the animals, Celtic will be wands and potter-type stuff, and i'm not sure what Japanese will be. any ideas?
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SirAaronIII

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Re: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 12:04:43 am »

Something with paper with symbols on it that can come alive or make barriers or something. Forget what it's called.
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Re: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 12:44:41 am »

Stuff involving spirits and such? That's chinese, actually.

How about you look at muramasa, the smith-guy whose swords according to myth inspired bloodlust in the user. Stuff like that?

You could have:
-Unrealistically powerful weapons
-Objects with special properties
-Stuff about spirits and related
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Re: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 01:05:40 am »

@SirAaronIII: I was actually thinking of something similar as a weaponisation of a Coptic circle, but hadn't added that into the paragraph...
@_DivideByZero_: I couldn't find any of these myths about Muramasa. Do you think you could find any examples?

Also, i've written the paragraph on Mesoamerican magic:

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Re: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 02:04:33 am »

You can have classical magic circle evocation. You stand in a magic circle and you summon some kind of being (normally spirits and elementals) into a triangle just off the circle. The circle is what stops what you summoned from attacking you while you reason with it and explain yourself. This comes in many different varieties such as Wiccan which is normally elemental, and Solomonic which is more about calling the divine. I'm sure there are more that I'm overlooking, but those are the ones I know offhand.
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Re: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 07:39:57 am »

Also, note that if your magic is consistent, with consistent effects and the ability to be studied, improved, and modified through the application of knowledge, you aren't breaking the laws of physics. You've simply got different laws of physics than the ones we have here.

So if you really want it to be magical, you want it to be to a certain extent uncontrollable and unpredictable. Changing. Maybe even alive.

Orrrr you could just go with alternate physics like FMA did. But it's not magic, else our current world is magical as shit. That is all. ;)
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Re: On Magic: an in-progress essay about magic in an alternate earth
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 10:40:53 am »

Any sufficiently detailed magic or alternate physics system can be hacked and abused exponentially, and will be done so by both any remotely realistic civilization, and evolution.

Or, in a more useful form: for any obvious application of the system, there exist lots and lots of advanced non obvious ones, each of which relates to the obvious ones like a punch-card-operated loom relates to a pair of colliding billiard balls, or like protein synthesis relates to fire.
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