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Should I Have my Castes follow Sterotypes

Have the Blood types use the personalities they're named after
- 0 (0%)
Have them completely different from the stereotype
- 1 (20%)
Use the stereotype personalities, but change a few slightly
- 1 (20%)
I don't agree with the idea of using Blood-Types as Castes at all
- 2 (40%)
Have Blood-Types as a Trait and Let the Castes be Personality Traits
- 1 (20%)
Have Blood-Types as a Trait and forget about Castes
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 5


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Courtesy Arloban

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Blood-Types as Castes
« on: February 29, 2012, 10:26:30 pm »

In my current mod I have the blood-types as castes, a little backstory is in order.

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Then I got around to doing it, but knowing how anachronistic it is I looked up new names to give the blood other than ABO.  I named them after the four humors and prefixed "Red" to the rh-positives.  I gave pop ratios based on the countries added together.

I saw that there were different personalities attributed to different blood-types, and thought that would be perfect to model, then I found the weird sites...  ...rh-negative is really rare.  But then I found out about blood discrimination in japan, and figured I should just shuffle the personalities around.  Problem is the names I chose for the blood is personalities, and it could confuse players.
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Re: Blood-Types as Castes
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 10:33:30 pm »

Could make "Color" descriptors that are called "(blood-type)" then make a tissue that is under the normal brain tissue called BLOODT so you could use:

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:BRAIN:BLOODT]
   [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:(color(bloodtype)):1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:blood:SINGULAR]

so it would show up as

Dwarf 1's Blood is AB+

EDIT:
Of course FB might have "It's feathers are B"
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Re: Blood-Types as Castes
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 10:41:40 pm »

Not quite related, actually, but here's something similar from my MSPA mod:

Code: [Select]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_RED]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_RED]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD1:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:MAROON]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD1:LIQUID]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_BROWN]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_BROWN]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD2:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:DARK_BROWN]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD2:LIQUID]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_YELLOW]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_YELLOW]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD3:LIQUID] (This is actually defined farther down)
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_LIME_GREEN]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_LIME_GREEN]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOODLIME:BLOOD_TEMPLATE] Was added later.
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:LIME]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOODLIME:LIQUID]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_DARK_GREEN]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_DARK_GREEN]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD4:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:JADE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD4:LIQUID]
[SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE_JADE_GREEN]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE_JADE_GREEN]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD5:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:GREEN] Colors between this and the normal green intentional.
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD5:LIQUID]
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_TEAL]
[SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_TEAL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD6:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:TEAL]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD6:LIQUID]
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 10:45:26 pm by Putnam »
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Re: Blood-Types as Castes
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 10:59:30 pm »

It's really just a way of making some of my humans different from each other without basing it on races.  I didn't name my castes any different, they're divided into male and female for the names, but the description varies for them reading what blood type they are at the end.
[DESCRIPTION:A medium-sized creature prone to great ambition. She is Red Choleric.]
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I actually have the framework setup, but there is no mental, personality, or appearance difference.
I could make it colors maybe a forgotten beast with Red Sanguine Feathers would sound better.
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Not quite related, actually, but here's something similar from my MSPA mod:


Code: [Select]
   [SELECT_CASTE:MALE_RED]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_RED]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD1:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_COLOR:ALL:MAROON]
         [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD1:LIQUID]
   [SELECT_CASTE:MALE_BROWN]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_BROWN]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD2:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_COLOR:ALL:DARK_BROWN]
         [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD2:LIQUID]
   [SELECT_CASTE:MALE_YELLOW]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_YELLOW]
      [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD3:LIQUID] (This is actually defined farther down)
[SELECT_CASTE:MALE_LIME_GREEN]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_LIME_GREEN]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOODLIME:BLOOD_TEMPLATE] Was added later.
         [STATE_COLOR:ALL:LIME]
         [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOODLIME:LIQUID]
   [SELECT_CASTE:MALE_DARK_GREEN]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_DARK_GREEN]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD4:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_COLOR:ALL:JADE]
         [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD4:LIQUID]
   [SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE_JADE_GREEN]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE_JADE_GREEN]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD5:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_COLOR:ALL:GREEN] Colors between this and the normal green intentional.
         [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD5:LIQUID]
   [SELECT_CASTE:MALE_TEAL]
   [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:FEMALE_TEAL]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD6:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
         [STATE_COLOR:ALL:TEAL]   
         [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD6:LIQUID]
That would be a good way to actually make Blood Types, but I'd need to use my castes, which don't seem so popular at the moment.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 11:05:36 pm by Courtesy Arloban »
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Re: Blood-Types as Castes
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 11:10:55 pm »

Traits are hereditary, castes are not. Surely you want blood type to be hereditary.

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Re: Blood-Types as Castes
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 11:29:29 pm »

Traits are hereditary, castes are not. Surely you want blood type to be hereditary.
Im getting the impression that people want blood-types, just not as castes.  And I had a thought that if the castes named after personality traits were completely seperate from an actual blood-type done as a trait then whether the blood-type matched the caste would be pure coincidence, but the caste would still match the personality!  I'll try to add that in as another option, but if I can't modify the poll consider the just show me the results to be that answer.
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Re: Blood-Types as Castes
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 04:59:41 pm »

Traits are hereditary, castes are not. Surely you want blood type to be hereditary.
Blood-Types are hereditary but in order to simulate the way that they are inhereted, I'd need 4 traits just for the ABO rh positve/negative. I'd need One for the first letter, another for the second, and two more for rh positive/negative, becasue there is a recessive trait that can cause two rh positives to have a negative child.
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Maybe that the dwarves never died and everyone is just shunning them.
"Wait, what are you doing?  I don't want to go in there!  No, I'm still alive, you can't do this to me!  Is Anybody listening?  Hello... Can someone let me out?  Help me!  Is anyone there?  I'm running out of air!"