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Melzer

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Peace with goblins?
« on: February 29, 2012, 05:52:24 am »
Is there any way to team up with goblins? Simple question; OK it's not simple.
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 05:56:12 am »
If your starting civ is friendly with them, then yes, you can even get caravans. Otherwise, dunno of a way to befriend em...
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 06:01:17 am »
Quote from: rtg593 on February 29, 2012, 05:56:12 am
If your starting civ is friendly with them, then yes, you can even get caravans. Otherwise, dunno of a way to befriend em...
It's almost impossible to get peace with them at worldgen.
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 06:02:33 am »
Quote from: Melzer on February 29, 2012, 06:01:17 am
Quote from: rtg593 on February 29, 2012, 05:56:12 am
If your starting civ is friendly with them, then yes, you can even get caravans. Otherwise, dunno of a way to befriend em...
It's almost impossible to get peace with them at worldgen.

;) never said it was easy, just offhand mentioning what I've read :p
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 06:14:44 am »
Very, very rarely, you can just let world gen go and a civ will be friendly to them. This usually happens after either the dwarven or goblin civ has lost a war to the other. In world gen they will usually have about 6 months - 20 years of peace before resuming conflict. Of course, that's not respected in fort mode, so you can have a fort that's friends with goblins for however long you run the fort.

Their caravans come in the winter and they mainly bring food and cloth. They are middlingly guarded, I think. Similarly guarded to human caravans.

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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 08:46:54 am »
Quote from: Reudh on February 29, 2012, 06:14:44 am
Their caravans come in the winter and they mainly bring food and cloth. They are middlingly guarded, I think. Similarly guarded to human caravans.
Their caravans come every season, but you might not get 2 caravans in summer and spring if elves and/or humans are at war with goblins. And you'll get a bonus! Elves and humans will want to make a quarry out of your fort and a bloody pulp out of your dwarfs
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 08:56:17 am »
Are you actually sure goblin caravans really still appear in unmodded games?
I know it was possible in 40.d, but ever since DF2010 it is absolutely necessary for a entity to have a [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]-tag (which goblins lack) to bring caravans, otherwise it just says "NO TRADE" in the civ embark screen, even if you are at peace with them.
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 09:01:49 am »
It will occasionally happpen (or used to, at least). If you want it to be a normal thing, add a [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK] tag and remove the [BABYSNATCHER] (what makes them always-hostile) tag from the goblin entry in the entity raws.
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 10:36:32 am »
You can't have a diplomat meeting or something?
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Re: Peace with goblins?
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 01:10:04 pm »
Quote from: Melzer on February 29, 2012, 10:36:32 am
You can't have a diplomat meeting or something?

Diplomacy with goblins = Lots of burning. Thankfully goblins don't even have diplomats ;P
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