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[Parhelion]

I'm loving the new update, but there's something that I noticed across all of my worlds and it's starting to grate on my nerves -- the new man-beasts appear to FAR outnumber actual animals and fantastical creatures.  So instead of embarking and finding a wonderland of unicorns and monkeys, I find hills of moth-men (or hamster men and such, but the grand majority appear to be insect-related).  Even with higher savagery, I was hoping to see a more balanced proportion of 'savage creatures' and animal-men that don't do anything except wander into my hallways and disrupt building.  XD

This poses the curious issue of finding things that are actually tameable or would seem a tad bit more appropriate for hunting. 

Am I the only one having this problem?


(( On a side note, I've also noticed that cavern trees and plants will immediately begin growing one z-level down from the surface if I've dug into some kind of loam floor [does not appear to work in sand] -- is this intentional, or a bug report issue? ))

[Flying Dice]

This is why I just delete all the animalmen (except the classic cavern ones) from the raws.

[Jelle]

It bugs me to somewhat, both the sheer quantity of them and their occurance.
Be better if they weren't as common and they'd cover a group of similar animals instead of having one for each type of animal in my opinion.

[NW_Kohaku]

You might want to look up some of the mods that are trying to address this problem.

[Parhelion]

Well, now that I know I'm not alone in the world with the problem.. hehe.  I didn't know there were any mods trying to work on them, thanks for the heads up.

I am very loathe to go wading through the raws, but it looks like that may be my only short-term option.  Alrighty then.

[EmperorJon]

There's been quite a dislike of animal man spam, I dare say it may have to be addressed by toady, I'm not sure. I agree it's way too much, nothing buy thrips men and louse men and panda men... where are my ANIMALS? I want DEER and BEARS!

[BigFatStupidHead]

Another good mod, from .01, is this one. Much gentler than some other approaches, but may need some updating.

EDIT: Yes, the raws in question have changed, so I wouldn't recommend using it straight up any more. However, adding

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[CV_NEW_TAG:FREQUENCY:1]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:POPULATION_NUMBER:1:10]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:4]

to the end of the two animal men variants, and

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[CV_NEW_TAG:FREQUENCY:1]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:POPULATION_NUMBER:1:1]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:1]

in giant animals (both sets of tags should be added at the start of their respective [CV_NEW_TAG... sections) in c_variation_default.txt will make worlds generated after the change have considerably less animal men showing up, and only one giant per region.

[DG]

I want more gibbonmen.

[Sphalerite]

In my latest embark I just added [GOOD] to the animal person template.  Essentially it means they're still in the world, but I'll never see them unless I deliberately go to a good embark.