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robertheinrich

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Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« on: March 07, 2012, 02:48:36 pm »

In my current fortress I have the "problem" that goblins donīt try to get inside my fortress during a siege. I have placed tons of cage traps at the main entrance which usually get filled quite fast. Then the rest of them just keeps standing outside and does not even try to get deeper into my fort. Are they discouraged by looking at their colleagues being trapped? I have set up so much more fun stuff inside, a cage with 50 wardogs waiting to be released, weapon traps, a nice drowning chamber which can be flooded really fast and whatnot... but I never get to use it because the invaders just wonīt come deeper into my fortress. Current situation is that I catch most of the guys in cage traps, then have to send out my military to finish off the rest.
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Re: Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 03:01:16 pm »

I really don't know if they look at cage traps or not, but I do know its funny to watch a horde of goblins run into a hallway of weapon traps and the the first wave dies horribly and the next wave stops in their tracks and goes "F--- this!" and paths off the map.

Its possible they can't path into the map thought. What I do is put dogs around my depot and make sure there is a clear path to it so they have some live target to go after without putting the whole fort in danger.

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Re: Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 03:17:45 pm »

Pathing should not be the problem, I have set up my trade depot near that main entrance and traders with wagons come there all the time.

Trolls do try to enter my fort, dodge the weapon traps and fall into pits and whatnot. Goblins however seem to prefer staying outside (where the tile is marked as being OUTSIDE LIGHT). Was their behaviour changed? In earlier forts I had goblins running all over my fortress, killing dwarves 10z deep etc.
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Re: Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 04:52:30 pm »

In DF, groups of creatures have unique pathing behavior. One member of the squad is designated the leader, and the others follow him. Therefore, if the leader is incapacitated, the rest of the squad will mill about where he last moved to and cease to move. There are a few mechanical devices involving pressure plates and hallways and hatches designed to separate the leader from his troops and trap them first posted elsewhere in the forums, but it might be better simply to use bridges to drop the goblins 1-z level onto a field of traps.
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Re: Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 05:00:58 pm »

So this means I probably have catched the leader(s) in my cages and thatīs the reason why all the other goblins are idling around the cages? Now thatīs pretty lame if you ask me.
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Re: Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 05:22:03 pm »

So this means I probably have catched the leader(s) in my cages and thatīs the reason why all the other goblins are idling around the cages? Now thatīs pretty lame if you ask me.

That's probably it. There are a number of issues with leaders, including this and flying/amphibious mounts.
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Re: Siege: invaders wonīt enter my fortress.
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 05:23:40 pm »

So this means I probably have catched the leader(s) in my cages and thatīs the reason why all the other goblins are idling around the cages? Now thatīs pretty lame if you ask me.
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