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[Virtz]

I've noticed that, for one of my vampiric characters, once they reached "thirsty!" status, their speed lowered a bit. Puzzled as to why drinking blood didn't help, I went and found out you have to suck the blood directly from living things. So I went and did this and the speed got even lower. I started off at like 1700, as a vampire reached 2000 without feeding, and once I fed I got around 1200 permanently.

I tried this with another character and it turns out it permanently goes to around 1200 when feeding for the first time. Is this supposed to happen or is this a bug? I find it a bit weird for a vampire to be slower than the mortal equivalent.

[Intro1827]

My speed lists 1280, but I still seem to have 1900+

[Xangi]

I found this too, I had a guy with base speed 2074 (somehow), he didn't get any increase when he became a vampire, but then when he fed he dropped to 1280. I don't know if he slowed down in reality, but people did seem to be able to catch him quite a bit easier afterwards.

EDIT: Well, I savescummed and didn't feed, not the thirsty thing reads "THRISTY!" and my speed is 1908

[Weirdsound]

I dropped from 1600ish to 1200ish upon my first meal.

[Garath]

Maybe it's the "fit in with people mode"

[Xangi]

AHA! I think I know why it happens. Your teeth grow huge, which probably weighs you down a bit, slowing you.

[CE_BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:START:0:BP:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:150]
         [CE:COUNTER_TRIGGER:DRINKING_BLOOD:1:NONE:REQUIRED]

[Urist Da Vinci]

What if there is a bug and the teeth become really large and heavy, moreso than Toady intended, slowing you down? We'd have to knock some vampire teeth out and measure them.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Can one knock out one's own teeth? Ironic, a toothless vampire. If that affects all your teeth, it looks like you get 36, and default size is 1, 10 for 'fangs', (relsize?). If all 36 grew 15000%....5400 units there.
A humanooid body's combined relsize is 4000.

[Megaman_zx]

i feel like the interactions aren't 100% ironed out yet, so that even if you did knock out your teeth upon feeding they woudl grow back.

[Aoi]

Can one knock out one's own teeth? Ironic, a toothless vampire. If that affects all your teeth, it looks like you get 36, and default size is 1, 10 for 'fangs', (relsize?). If all 36 grew 15000%....5400 units there.
A humanooid body's combined relsize is 4000.

I... just... image of a new vampire, after taking his first drink, suddenly faceplanting and being unable to move since his jaw now weighs 200lb...

[Litral]

AHA! I think I know why it happens. Your teeth grow huge, which probably weighs you down a bit, slowing you.

[CE_BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:START:0:BP:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:150]
         [CE:COUNTER_TRIGGER:DRINKING_BLOOD:1:NONE:REQUIRED]

:O So that's what it is... I was quite annoyed by the fact that being a vampire actually weakens me in terms of speed. I then savescummed and tried to stop myself from drinking, but then I accidentally bit someone in battle and apparently that counts too.

By my estimate these vampiric teeth are heavier than twenty bronze breastplates.

[Urist Da Vinci]

Just did some arena mode testing with a custom interaction that grows teeth by the same amount in the vampire raw - the weight of the teeth that were knocked out is still reasonable. I think some other factor is at play, perhaps regarding your "disguise mode" changes while a vampire.

[Xangi]

Just did some arena mode testing with a custom interaction that grows teeth by the same amount in the vampire raw - the weight of the teeth that were knocked out is still reasonable. I think some other factor is at play, perhaps regarding your "disguise mode" changes while a vampire.

Hmm, odd, I thought I had that right. And the mental imagery was awesome.... oh well.

[Aachen]

Dwarf Fortress: where "Ultimate power!" becomes ".... must seem average at all costs!"

[MaskedMiner]

Maybe its because vampires disguise themselves as normal and move as slow as normal people do? Aka, you move in average agility instead of superhuman or something?