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General Discussion / Re: Israel-Gaza/Palestine war thread
« on: February 22, 2024, 02:29:00 pm »
Thanks for your typically helpful insight, Spin dude.
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This is literally the opposite of how a democracy is supposed to work. You are describing an aristocracy, where the people in charge pursue their own interests because they think they know better. In a democracy, officials must answer to their constituents. Constituents are often short-sighted or easily swayed, a flaw of democracy that has been commented on since ancient Athens; nevertheless.The representatives answer to their constituents come next election. During the term they're expected to make decisions on their own, to the best of their ability and understanding of how to further the interests of the people they represent. They can explain their choices later, as they campaign for reelection.
That said - what's the rest of Europe doing? I don't get the impression (which could be wrong, of course) that the EU is actually trying to stop Russia either, or give Ukraine what it needs to actually stop Russia.At the beginning of this month the financial aid for the next four years was approved by the EU. So at least in this respect we're ahead.
"What he said about the war" was literally a propaganda effort to appeal to westerners, such as you, and Russian dissidents in order to improve his party's standing both globally and among the anti-war youth demographic at home.You can't know that, can you?
I don't know what else to tell you.This discussion:
If his position in 2017 was that Russia should focus on internal issues before invading UkraineIt wasn't. Listen to the debate.
Navalny certainly was never "against the war" in and of itselfThat's almost literally what he said in that debate when they started talking about Donbas.
If Navalny was a president, Ukraine wouldn't exist anymore (or be in a much worse shape). Navalny's Russia would have a stronger less corrupt army, stronger and less corrupt economy and better relations with the West, making the war far easier for them.I'd have to rewatch that discussion to make sure I got this right, but from memory his main point of contention with Girkin was that he was against the war.
"from which direction?"Have you seen his debate with Girkin from 2017? To me it encapsulates the difference between the current Russia and his idea of the same. He was no saint, but his Russia would be a massive improvement over what we have.
NavalnyGuy had massive balls going back to Mother Russia after being poisoned. He had to know he was setting himself up for a death sentence. I wonder what was the purpose in his mind.was murderedsuddenly died in a Russian prison.
What can I say? He was brave and he loved his country. But his death is inconsequential for Russian politics.