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[Shambling Zombie]

I like it how there are a very large amount of reasonable people of faith who look at various scientific theories which are backed up by the evidence and say "Yeah, that must be how <deity or cosmic force> made it to be."

It may differ on the idea of why it is so (natural forces vs supernatural guidance) but I admire those willing to decide based on solid evidence.

I like reasonable people. 

[Siquo]

solid evidence [..]reasonable people

Subjective terms. Hardcore literalists consider the bible as Word Of God as "solid evidence", and everyone who agrees with them "reasonable". Lucky for you and I, that group is rather small (yet vocal ).

[Shambling Zombie]

solid evidence [..]reasonable people

Subjective terms. Hardcore literalists consider the bible as Word Of God as "solid evidence", and everyone who agrees with them "reasonable". Lucky for you and I, that group is rather small (yet vocal ).

I guess my meaning of "reasonable" was those who are willing to give other's points of view an honest consideration, and to challenge their own beliefs if new information or evidence comes to light. Not folks who point at something, say it's Word of God, and declare it final.

[KaguroDraven]

This is only semi-on-topic, but when I die I'm going to laugh like hell if one of the 'barbarian' or 'pagan' religions was right, while all three Abrahamic religions are wrong.

Hey, be careful who you're talking around

But yes, if it turns out that we're all going to Hades... Would be strange (and rather amusing), to say the least.

Sorry but as a mythology geek I have to point out Hades was the GOD of the underworld, alot of people seem to think it was named Hades as well.

[Il Palazzo]

That's still a correct sentence. If you're a Christian and you die, you go to Jesus.

[ECrownofFire]

This is only semi-on-topic, but when I die I'm going to laugh like hell if one of the 'barbarian' or 'pagan' religions was right, while all three Abrahamic religions are wrong.

Hey, be careful who you're talking around

But yes, if it turns out that we're all going to Hades... Would be strange (and rather amusing), to say the least.

Sorry but as a mythology geek I have to point out Hades was the GOD of the underworld, alot of people seem to think it was named Hades as well.

After searching around for about... five minutes or so, I haven't found anything against it. Of course, the internet isn't exactly well known for being correct all the time.

In any case, it's still technically correct like Il Palazzo said

[Siquo]

They're not going to meet Hades unless they bring money.

[scriver]

As a mythology geek, I have to insist that both the deity and his realm can be referred to as Hades . Just like with Hel and Hel of Norse mythology. Could have been a staple of European branched Indo-European religions, mayhaps?

[Andir]

That's still a correct sentence. If you're a Christian and you die, you go to Jesus.

It's like... they become a new set of Underoos for Jesus.  I mean, what else is he going to do with all those "souls."  It'd be like having 4 billion little ceramic elephant figurines.  Eventually they'd just get boring or start to look like the others in the collection.  Maybe there's a shelf where he organizes the souls of the dead by color and nose shape.

[Siquo]

His love is endless, and He loves every single unique individual.

(is what the Christian could answer )


I notice that a lot of people (including believers) keep trying to second-guess a being that's way over their heads, as if they were that being. "If I were God, then I would [get bored/kill em all/stop all suffering/listen to prayers/prove my existence to mankind/make country X the best country in the world/etc]", and then sometimes continue and act as if that's really true, using it as either proof He doesn't exist, or use it as an excuse to do "evil", or whatever. I find this hubris annoying.

[Andir]

His love is endless, and He loves every single unique individual.

(is what the Christian could answer )


I notice that a lot of people (including believers) keep trying to second-guess a being that's way over their heads, as if they were that being. "If I were God, then I would [get bored/kill em all/stop all suffering/listen to prayers/prove my existence to mankind/make country X the best country in the world/etc]", and then sometimes continue and act as if that's really true, using it as either proof He doesn't exist, or use it as an excuse to do "evil", or whatever. I find this hubris annoying.

In order to truly understand God, you simply place your beliefs in his action and it becomes more comfortable knowing the almighty is doing what you expect him to.  Uncomfortable thoughts, like [he doesn't exist/he wants me to kill babies/he doesn't want me eating pigs], would make the god unlike you and therefore less believable.  I mean, it's easier to say God did something that happened than to say he will do something miraculous in the future and have it happen.  In that way, I'd say religion lives in the past events rather than being a way to live your future.

[G-Flex]

You can't prove a negitive

Where do people get this idea? You can prove a negative with just as much ease or difficulty as you can prove a positive. Granted, you can't prove either absolutely, generally speaking.

[Phmcw]

You can't prove a negitive

Where do people get this idea? You can prove a negative with just as much ease or difficulty as you can prove a positive. Granted, you can't prove either absolutely, generally speaking.

Actually Siquo is the only non strong atheist whose belief make sense to me. He's not sure about the existence of a god, but he isn't sure of anything else either (at least theoretically).
Anything else would be illogical.

[Shambling Zombie]

Is it really hubris to hear about a family dying in a house fire, then hear people talking of an omnipotent, benevolent diety and think "That doesn't make sense."?

[TolyK]

science.
!!science!!

that is all. I believe that this "god" is only for random numbers.