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[Glowcat]

For example: See a few pages back where a single position somehow became "a belief system". *facepalm*

You mean the position that God exists?

I guess that's also why most identify as Atheist since all that unites us is a lack of belief in whatever a divine being is supposed to be.

God, gods, immortal megawizard, whatever you want to call the concept that Theism is based around.

[Darvi]

For example: See a few pages back where a single position somehow became "a belief system". *facepalm*

You mean the position that God exists?

No, the one where I said that depending on the definition of religion, that atheism could also be considered one. Not saying that it is, but some atheists are so aggressive in their point of view that it's kinda stupid.

[Siquo]

No, the one where I said that depending on the definition of religion, that atheism could also be considered one. Not saying that it is, but some atheists are so aggressive in their point of view that it's kinda stupid.

I knew that, but I like to mess with them
It was finally determined that the position that needing evidence for a God is a belief system, since you believe in that evidence. I don't know where the facepalm comes from, other than failure to understand.

[Darvi]

As I said, depends on your definition. Some people consider a religion any belief system in a higher force or something. And nonexistence isn't really high up, much less a force.

[Siquo]

A force higher than what? Nature is a higher force, and for instance science believes in nature.

My argument for it being a religion was not the shared non-belief in God, but the shared belief in "evidence".

[Il Palazzo]

It was finally determined that the position that needing evidence for a God is a belief system, since you believe in that evidence.

Man, doesn't it all go in circles, on and on.
With such a broad definition of belief, every perception can be called so, including one's own existence, making it synonymous with philosophy, which makes the whole conversation meaningless - we're talking about atheism and religion, not philosophy.
Still, in the case you've provided, it actually can't be a belief - one can't believe in the evidence that doesn't exist. But you most likely meant evidence as an idea, in more general sense, in which case the above point still applies.

[Darvi]

A force higher than what? Nature is a higher force, and for instance science believes in nature.

Well higher than humans obviously. And there are or were quite a few nature worshiping religions.

[Siquo]

With such a broad definition of belief, every perception can be called so, including one's own existence, making it synonymous with philosophy, which makes the whole conversation meaningless - we're talking about atheism and religion, not philosophy.

Semantics. A dictionary was quoted, and the definition given there fitted what you call philosophy. I just like to rile up the atheists by calling them religious, since they appear to hate the term, even though the dictionary contains more than their definition of the word.
I just like the irony

[Darvi]

I just like the irony

This.

[Phmcw]

The point is, by any less broad definition of belief, the fact that god doesn't exist is not a belief.
Or if you prefer, the existence for the non existence of god have the same strength that those for the existence of potatoes.

[Darvi]

Hey! I like potatoes! 
And you don't need to believe in their existence, since they're pretty much proven to exist.

Yeah I'll stop being a smartass now.

[Il Palazzo]

With such a broad definition of belief, every perception can be called so, including one's own existence, making it synonymous with philosophy, which makes the whole conversation meaningless - we're talking about atheism and religion, not philosophy.

Semantics. A dictionary was quoted, and the definition given there fitted what you call philosophy. I just like to rile up the atheists by calling them religious, since they appear to hate the term, even though the dictionary contains more than their definition of the word.
I just like the irony

You know, if we're talking semantics, this behaviour could be easily called trolling.

[Siquo]

I'm perfectly aware of that. It's a fine line between pointing out the irony of someones statements and insults. However, if I may generalise, there's been a lot less theist trolling than atheist trolling here, so I've got some catching up to do there.

[Leafsnail]

I just like the irony I am a troll

Fixed.

[Siquo]

Oh relax, I'm just attacking your ideas, not you personally.


More irony, or more troll? Who can tell? Goes around comes around, perhaps?