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[Shade-o]

Ah, but it was specifically stated that if the Lord were not 'with them', they would lose. When the Lord was supporting them, they enjoyed continuous victories, except for when they faced chariots of iron which directly countered the divine power.

Besides, chariots were stupid easy to counter and were only good on very flat plains. That they were used in a valley and won despite all this...

However, if God was making his people win without them having any actual capacity as soldiers, that would explain why they crumple as soon as he's not looking.

Wait, maybe God is weak to valleys?

[Zrk2]

Whether or not we understand 'god' is irrelevant if he isn't real. You two should stop splitting hairs.

[Max White]

Whether or not we understand 'god' is irrelevant if he isn't real. You two should stop splitting hairs.

Well that sounds ridiculously fun.

[Il Palazzo]

Wait, maybe God is weak to valleys?

No, dude, "chariots of iron" - it's a prophecy. He basically says that he will be helping his people until cars appear on earth(valley=gravity well. Obvious, really). That's why there are no more miracles today, and that's why atheism rears it's ugly head.

[Shade-o]

Whoa

[Andir]

...and that's why atheism rears it's ugly head.

I wouldn't call it ugly... I find it refreshing to be able to view the world as a cool mass of randomness evolved.

[Shades]

Wait, maybe God is weak to valleys?

No, dude, "chariots of iron" - it's a prophecy. He basically says that he will be helping his people until cars appear on earth(valley=gravity well. Obvious, really). That's why there are no more miracles today, and that's why atheism rears it's ugly head.

There are just as many miracles now as there ever have been.

[Urist is dead tome]

Is Shades a Christian? If so he and I are pretty much the only ones here.

But yes I believe that there are indeed miracles. Although not as many due to a lack of a need for G-d to prove his existence and power.

[Realmfighter]

I'm fairly certain e was being scathingly sarcastic there.

[Urist is dead tome]

So I maintain my depressing title as only Christian here?

[Realmfighter]

Would be any consolation if I told you I think your a great person?

[Urist is dead tome]

Would be any consolation if I told you I think your a great person?

Yes. Yes it would.

Ah, but it was specifically stated that if the Lord were not 'with them', they would lose. When the Lord was supporting them, they enjoyed continuous victories, except for when they faced chariots of iron which directly countered the divine power.

Besides, chariots were stupid easy to counter and were only good on very flat plains. That they were used in a valley and won despite all this...

However, if God was making his people win without them having any actual capacity as soldiers, that would explain why they crumple as soon as he's not looking.

Wait, maybe God is weak to valleys?

I'm gonna guess that G-d didn't play that big of a roll in the taking of Israel than people think since several of the tribes lost. And I guess they would crumple if he wasn't looking.

[Zrk2]

There are some very interesting examples of 'God' in the old testament. In exodus, when the Jews were leaving Egypt. It says they were lead by god who appeared as a 'pillar of smoke' in the day, and a 'bright fire' by night. But in ancient times armies would be spread out and would follow a pillar of smoke during the day, and a fire at night so they could maintain their cohesion. I imagine many 'example' of God in the old testament came from similar misinterpretations and wishful expansions over the years.

[Leafsnail]

Wait, what about cars means God can't help us anymore?

[Andir]

Wait, what about cars means God can't help us anymore?

Convenience, I guess.  It gives "a way out" of the burden of proof.