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[Leafsnail]

Nah, it's a cultural thing.  Although I guess religion may have contributed to the shift in attitudes toward nakedness.

[ECrownofFire]

Part of that "cultural thing" is not freezing to death

[Leafsnail]

Eh, depends.

The Celts didn't seem to have a problem with nudity, since they'd usually run onto the battlefield completely naked other than a kindof necklace thing.

The Greeks and Romans didn't seem to have a problem with the human form, either.

[optimumtact]

Yeah I would agree with the statement that the whole culture of hiding away our bodies and sexuality is very much a product of the Abrahamic (is that the right term?) and islamic faiths (possibly the hindu and others but I don't know enought about them), who have very strong views about such things. There are parts of the bible (old testament I think) where it talks about not seeing your brothers/sisters/parents naked. Apparently the KKK used this part for justifying their racist tendencies (not that this is true, they just read into too much). There might of been other religions that advocated this but they were either never organised enough or large enough to have a serious cultural impact.

I would lay the claim that organised religion in all it's forms was one of the major cultural influences on the western world, from the middle ages and still today.

At CrownofFire: Sure it may have been about not freezing to death, but you could make the case that religion lead to clothing becoming more than just a tool to keep warm. They made it a thing of modesty, to hide your sexuality and body was the right thing to do. I suspect that early cultures like the Celts and Greeks/Romans wore clothes to keep warm and it wasn't such a big deal to hide themselves away (much as Leafsnail said).

[Urist is dead tome]

I think that this clothes for modesty stuff is indeed a product of Abrahamic religions (optimumtact. Islam is also Abrahamic.) This is especially true with the Haredi Jews.

I really don't see how they can justify racism with that passage and still be such opponents of Judaism.

[optimumtact]

I think that this clothes for modesty stuff is indeed a product of Abrahamic religions (optimumtact. Islam is also Abrahamic.) This is especially true with the Haredi Jews.

I really don't see how they can justify racism with that passage and still be such opponents of Judaism.

Thanks for the clarification on that

I don't see how they justify it either, but they do. I guess some people just make up their minds about things and will do anything they can to twist other views or statements to their own perspective.

[Urist is dead tome]

Oh you better believe it.

There's this church near where I live. They interpret the passage of G-d marking Cain as G-d making Cain black. Not cool.

[Realmfighter]

Bigots are the spice of life.

[Urist is dead tome]

*Looks at Realmfighter*

Man! Is that one sexy racist!

[Urist Imiknorris]

The only sexy racist.

[Realmfighter]

I stole every other Racists sexy.

It is all mine.

[Shade-o]

The first thing Noah did after the Ark landed was make a vineyard and brew some wine. He then got drunk and fell asleep naked in his tent.

One of his sons, Ham walked in and saw him. Noah then made Canaan, Ham's son, a slave.

The moral of the story is to be really careful around drunks with divine authority.

[Urist is dead tome]

More justification for stealing ham from the grocery store.

[Urist Imiknorris]

The guy, not the food.

[Il Palazzo]

That was the pun.