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[Max White]

Oh good, so glad I'm with people who relise that religen is about more then doing what a bunch of musty old men say.

[Zrk2]

Now back to contraception?

[Max White]

Well I'm up for that too!

[FuzzyZergling]

Are you trying to say that The Gore is not the greatest of all authorities on global warming?
Because if you are, my good sir, than I shall have to enter internet fisticuffs with you!

_{Also, religion, not religen. It's kind of distracting.}

[Urist is dead tome]

OK I found a verse that I think  points against all unnatural things in sex.

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and shall become united and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one in flesh."

And as for abortion I believe in the Jewish way as well in that it is sub human until like it's head is out.

[Max White]

Are you trying to say that The Gore is not the greatest of all authorities on global warming?
Because if you are, my good sir, than I shall have to enter internet fisticuffs with you!

_{Also, religion, not religen. It's kind of distracting.}

*Throws glove unto thy ground*
You have insulted my honer, good sir! For all the work that many scientists preform, it is a sin for any one man to convolute there data, even for a good cause! Because of the follys of that one man, debates all over the internet were pushed back 20 years!

[Zrk2]

DOesn't that just affirm the 'sanctity' of marriage?

[Urist is dead tome]

I have a feeling that some bad stuff is about to go down...

Let's get outta here!

Doesn't that just affirm the 'sanctity' of marriage?

See I think it does both. It also kinda says stuff against cohabitation.

[Max White]

and shall become united and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one in flesh."

I don't understand the significants of this line in context to the debate.

[Urist is dead tome]

That's what gave me my opinion on condoms. With a condom it's kinda hard to become "one in flesh".

More likely it points to insanity on my part.

[FuzzyZergling]

It is by belief that the fetus does not "become" a human until it is capable of surviving outside of the womb.
Feel free to disagree.

*Throws glove unto thy ground*

A challenge!
Shall it be pistols at dawn, then?

and shall become united and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one in flesh."

I don't understand the significants of this line in context to the debate.

A condom could be seen as interfering with the "one in flesh" part.
I think that is what he is trying to say I could be wrong.

Too many ninjas!

[Urist is dead tome]

Mr. Fuzzy got it right on. For both of my beliefs as it were.

And for the dueling part. I call being Max White's second!

[Max White]

A challenge!
Shall it be pistols at dawn, then?

So remind me, because I issued the challenge, but you chose pistols, who brings the guns?

[Zrk2]

OK I found a verse that I think  points against all unnatural things in sex.

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and shall become united and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one in flesh."

And as for abortion I believe in the Jewish way as well in that it is sub human until like it's head is out.

It sounds like a bit of a stretch to me.

And the Jews are ok with abortion?

[Urist is dead tome]

Jews are allowed abortions but only if the woman's life is in danger from childbirth. You can't get one if you benefit from it.

And it the choice of both the father, the mother, and their Rabbi.