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Bauglir

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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #990 on: December 26, 2010, 08:01:02 pm »
Quote from: Andir on December 26, 2010, 05:18:56 pm
How is theological history "new"s?

In the same way that genies being real and actually just holograms (the lamps are the projectors) left behind by space aliens posing as angels in humanity's distant past is history. The History Channel needs to change its name.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #991 on: December 26, 2010, 08:25:04 pm »
Quote from: Shrugging Khan on December 26, 2010, 05:37:07 pm
"All religions have a little christianity in them...SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST CONVERT ALREADY, YOU HEATHEN SCUM!".
If by having a little, you mean being a religion at all, then yes. But influence from other religions is expected. On a kind of counterpoint, Christianity has a lot of Judaism and Islam in it :P
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #992 on: December 26, 2010, 08:31:03 pm »
Quote from: CrownofFire on December 26, 2010, 08:25:04 pm
On a kind of counterpoint, Christianity has a lot of Judaism and Islam in it :P
On a technical note, it would be more accurate to say that Christianity has Judaism in it and Islam has Christianity in it, given the chronology.
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To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #993 on: December 26, 2010, 08:32:23 pm »
Yeah, "Religions all have something in common" would be the more rational line.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #994 on: December 26, 2010, 08:34:40 pm »
Quote from: Leafsnail on December 26, 2010, 08:32:23 pm
Yeah, "Religions all have something in common" would be the more rational line.
Which is about as meaningful as saying "all humans have something in common".
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #995 on: December 26, 2010, 08:57:54 pm »
All objects grouped in the same category share certain attributes!

THIS IS NEWS!
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #996 on: December 26, 2010, 09:17:51 pm »
After talking a bit more with that girl I quoted earlier, I feel I shouldn't call myself atheist anymore, I don't wanna band myself with people so mind bogginly stupid to say something like this:

hun the code of hamuribi was the first known set of laws and it was nothing to do with religion[/b]

it was from a king who said the reason he can make the laws is cause he was a god

but in reality it was rules from a king

not religious


Really people? Really?
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #997 on: December 26, 2010, 09:23:11 pm »
No matter what you call yourself, someone will ruin it for you.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #998 on: December 26, 2010, 09:23:44 pm »
@ Dakk: Dude, you're being trolled.

Quote from: Realmfighter on December 26, 2010, 09:23:11 pm
No matter what you call yourself, someone will ruin it for you.
Which is why I prefer ruining it for others instead.
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Not a troll, not some basement-dwelling neckbeard, but indeed a hateful, rude little person. On the internet.
I'm actually quite nice IRL, but you people have to pay the price for that.

Now stop being distracted by the rudeness, quit your accusations of trollery, and start arguing like real men!

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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #999 on: December 26, 2010, 09:28:19 pm »
Quote from: Dakk on December 26, 2010, 09:17:51 pm
After talking a bit more with that girl I quoted earlier, I feel I shouldn't call myself atheist anymore, I don't wanna band myself with people so mind bogginly stupid to say something like this
You aren't banded with them. As you know, atheists aren't a religion or even organized in any way.  It's just a lack of a belief in gods, and you shouldn't bother with the trouble of re-labeling just because some atheists aren't smart.
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Quote from: Thomas Paine
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #1000 on: December 26, 2010, 09:30:13 pm »
Quote from: Shrugging Khan on December 26, 2010, 09:23:44 pm
@ Dakk: Dude, you're being trolled.

Quote from: Realmfighter on December 26, 2010, 09:23:11 pm
No matter what you call yourself, someone will ruin it for you.
Which is why I prefer ruining it for others instead.

I would think so if I didn't know this girl in real life, she's like this with her family and other friends aswell, she goes to college with me.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #1001 on: December 26, 2010, 09:33:47 pm »
You're all being tolled? Thoroughly?
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« Reply #1002 on: December 26, 2010, 09:34:17 pm »
just to clarify, no one was forcing her to say merry Christmas.

No one forced her to celebrate Christmas.

And sworn enemy? Really?

I think the problem is that she's an idiot.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #1003 on: December 26, 2010, 09:44:09 pm »
Quote from: Dakk on December 26, 2010, 09:17:51 pm
After talking a bit more with that girl I quoted earlier, I feel I shouldn't call myself atheist anymore, I don't wanna band myself with people so mind bogginly stupid to say something like this:

hun the code of hamuribi was the first known set of laws and it was nothing to do with religion[/b]

it was from a king who said the reason he can make the laws is cause he was a god

but in reality it was rules from a king

not religious


Really people? Really?
I don't really see a problem with that.  I mean, there's probably older examples of laws, but a historical slipup isn't a reason to disown a label.

Her point seems to be "The king gave those laws, not god, so we don't need god to be moral".
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #1004 on: December 26, 2010, 09:47:05 pm »
Quote from: Leafsnail on December 26, 2010, 09:44:09 pm
Quote from: Dakk on December 26, 2010, 09:17:51 pm
After talking a bit more with that girl I quoted earlier, I feel I shouldn't call myself atheist anymore, I don't wanna band myself with people so mind bogginly stupid to say something like this:

hun the code of hamuribi was the first known set of laws and it was nothing to do with religion[/b]

it was from a king who said the reason he can make the laws is cause he was a god

but in reality it was rules from a king

not religious


Really people? Really?
I don't really see a problem with that.  I mean, there's probably older examples of laws, but a historical slipup isn't a reason to disown a label.

Her point seems to be "The king gave those laws, not god, so we don't need god to be moral".

The problem is that she made it she said that with the intention of saying religion did not affect society in any way even in old times.
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