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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #615 on: December 16, 2010, 05:57:59 pm »

I think I like the dark side better.

*gives in to his emotions*

They do have cookies I hear.  However, I bet the good side is full of cookie DOUGH, which is just amazing. More than that... it's peanut butter cookie dough. hmm... I'm imagining having a good-gasm. You know what makes it even better? sharing the good-gasm, because then not only are YOU happy, everyone in your environment is too. Yes, that is heaven on earth buddy, right there.

Oh... what were we talking about again? I'm sure you can find something in there to persuade you to the side of good, I think that's it. Now I'm hungry.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #616 on: December 16, 2010, 06:03:49 pm »

Depending on which questions you want answered and how, yes, one belief will be better than others.
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« Reply #617 on: December 16, 2010, 06:46:20 pm »

This place is more civil than I would have expected. Not like a lot of atheists on Youtube. All they do (From my experience.) is troll around.
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« Reply #618 on: December 16, 2010, 06:48:45 pm »

This place is more civil than I would have expected. Not like a lot of atheists on Youtube. All they do (From my experience.) is troll around.
You have...evidence of this? Unless you mean commenters, dear freaking god the commenters, but I have yet to see any athiest video trolls on Youtube.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #619 on: December 16, 2010, 06:49:37 pm »

Depending on which questions you want answered and how, yes, one belief will be better than others.
But this basically boils down to
Depending on your perspective, yes, one belief will be better than others.
Which says nothing.
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« Reply #620 on: December 16, 2010, 06:50:44 pm »

Commentors. I even got a list of screen names from people like that. Ya never know. (Suspicious glances.) But I do know several of their names.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #621 on: December 16, 2010, 06:55:16 pm »

Which says nothing.
No, it means that depending on your needs, you choose a belief. If you value straight answers more than accuracy of answers, you might have a totally different belief system.

This place is more civil than I would have expected.
Thanks, from almost all of us ;) Except for me, I only count as an atheist depending on your definition.
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« Reply #622 on: December 16, 2010, 06:56:57 pm »

No, it means that depending on your needs, you choose a belief. If you value straight answers more than accuracy of answers, you might have a totally different belief system.
Your saying people will believe what they want to believe.

That is a well known fact, which in essence says nothing.
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« Reply #623 on: December 16, 2010, 06:57:58 pm »

Your saying people will believe what they want to believe.
No, it means people believe what they need to believe. You don't choose your insecurities.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #624 on: December 16, 2010, 06:59:26 pm »

Depending on which questions you want answered and how, yes, one belief will be better than others.
But this basically boils down to
Depending on your perspective, yes, one belief will be better than others.
Which says nothing.

Yeah, because better is subjective. We can say that some ideas excel in some ways and not in others, and even that some ideas are mostly beneficial or mostly detrimental. But we can't say one idea is better than another. That doesn't really even mean anything.
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« Reply #625 on: December 16, 2010, 07:02:03 pm »

No, it means people believe what they need to believe. You don't choose your insecurities.
They want to believe in what they need to believe in, and people are there insecurities.

I feel as if we are arguing over semantics.
Yeah, because better is subjective. We can say that some ideas excel in some ways and not in others, and even that some ideas are mostly beneficial or mostly detrimental. But we can't say one idea is better than another. That doesn't really even mean anything.

You can say an idea is better, just it's up to other people as to whether they agree with you or not.
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« Reply #626 on: December 16, 2010, 07:10:23 pm »

They want to believe in what they need to believe in, and people are there insecurities.
Only if you lose all insecurities, you can choose any belief.

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You can say an idea is better, just it's up to other people as to whether they agree with you or not.
Point: you can only say an idea is better for you.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #627 on: December 16, 2010, 07:14:01 pm »

Only if you lose all insecurities, you can choose any belief.
What does this mean, I don't even.

you can only say an idea is better for you.
Atheism is the best for everyone ever.

Doesn't mean its true, but I can say it anyway.
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« Reply #628 on: December 16, 2010, 07:14:19 pm »

Only if you lose all insecurities, you can choose any belief.
That's actually the point where you can just straight up stop believing and start to trust your thinking instead.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #629 on: December 16, 2010, 07:17:43 pm »

Only if you lose all insecurities, you can choose any belief.
That's actually the point where you can just straight up stop believing and start to trust your thinking instead.

That is called

believing in yourself.

Yeah, because better is subjective. We can say that some ideas excel in some ways and not in others, and even that some ideas are mostly beneficial or mostly detrimental. But we can't say one idea is better than another. That doesn't really even mean anything.

You can say an idea is better, just it's up to other people as to whether they agree with you or not.

Well, of course it's possible to say something is better. But you can't be objectively right about it.
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