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When the CREATURE tag is defined and you're adding tags to construct a creature, it is effectively running on "SELECT_CASTE:ALL" basically in the background, But once you start to define a [CASTE] it breaks that and now you're adding tags to CREATURE:CASTE as a sub object of the CREATURE. Thus when you want to start adding things back to the creature again for it as a whole you use SELECT_CASTE:ALL stating "all these tags I will be adding if for the whole creature (aka apply to all castes)
when you use [SELECT_CASTE] it goes back to editing the before defined CASTE that was created before (IE MALE, or FEMALE) technically you could just go back up the caste definition and add the tags there, but the thing with [SELECT_CASTE] is there is a sister/brother token [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE] that lets you add another caste to the selection. Say you have a creature with 5 castes, and 3 of them share the same tokens, like say [BODY:2WING] instead of just adding that line 3 times in the definitions, you can just do SELECT_CASTE:A then SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:C, SELECT_ADDITIONAL__CASTE:D then add the above token of adding two wings and the flier tag and gaits.
Sites can be generated during worldgen in the ocean (and in the middle of lakes). I forget how exactly, probably exactly as mentioned with biome_support. I was hoping to create a coastal dwelling civ, but besides the initial site (which is often a beautifully realized coastal town) they often spread out and "build" in the water.what would be your guess as to what is happening? you recon the buildings are made on the surface and then immedeatly sink or do they just not generate at all? id you try doing this with an cilivisation whose citizens can be underwater without death?
When you embark as an adventurer at one of these sites you'll find yourself alone and drowning.
Are unconnected pops of animal people actually unavailable to select from the Intelligent Wilderness Creature menu?when playing animal people you quickly notice that animal people of certain types can only start from certain cililisations, and it seems to have something to do with if any cites in that cililisation is near the appropriate biome, for instance many times the only playable civs of quatic animal people are those near the coast, or sometimes the only available civ for your snake man adventurer is the filthy elves, so clearly there is some connection between location and available animal people, you can go to just about any generated world and see the pattern so to me it seems like if certain animal people are too far away from any cililized land they become completely unavailable
I haven't investigated that far. I mean, they all live in savage biomes, so theoretically none of them should have any contact and yet they're available to select.
ah yes, let me clarify again, i am not talking about spontaineus generation ether, merely turning uncontacted species into contacted ones, for instance maybe in my world all chameleon men exist on an map tile with no nearby settlements from neither humans elves nor dwarves, putting an fort at that tile or near it should then the logically intelligent wilderness beast version of the chamelon that was previously unavailable should now be available, correct? previously they had no place to civilize themselves, now they do have a place to become woodcutters and farmers since there is a dwarven cite nearby.Populations exist regardless of a player fortress being there or not. So, no. Besides necromancer experiments, no site can magically produce new species yet. (Maybe pets, they're a bit weird).okay but again, i am not talking about civilizing animal people since that is so unreliable, i am talking strictly about how to make them available under intelegent wilderness beasts by making forts in savage regions were they could reasonably spawn, i do not really care about forcing them to join civilisationsPretty sure the civilizing process doesn't occur after initial worldgen. I mean, it might but you'd need to test several dozen fortresses for the few hundred years it takes them to trigger a civilizing event, so I doubt anyone has done that science.The first list presented are the civilized animal-person populations of your playable civs (human, elf, dwarf in vanilla). These populations are the result of events during history generation in which populations of wild animal people "civilize". So they need to have been there in the first place of course.yeah i know the diffrence between assimilated species that can also include kobolds and intelegent wilderness beasts i was specifically looking on how to improve the second list by placing my mighty dwarven fort in the right spot and it seems not to have worked and that is why i made this post
The second list (Intelligent wilderness creature) gives you the full selection of animal people in your world and assumes that you yourself decided to "civilize" and join a human, elf or dwarf civilization. This is much longer, but I think it still won't give you the complete list of animal people, as some may not exist at all in your world (especially in smaller, low savagery worlds).
(Plump helmet men and gorlaks will also follow the same civilizing patterns).
I thought I'd make this tutorial because nobody else has and because I've had some great experiences so far doing animal forts.
Step 1: Go into adventure mode and perferably find the largest sized animal person that can spawn in a dwarven civilization.
(Size is proportional to strength in DF so the one with the largest size will be the most OP)
Step 2: Start a fort as the civ that has the variety of animal person you want.
(If the animal person is from another civ it won't be able to do any labors in your fort or will just be a corpse when you start playing fort mode again for some reason)
Step 3: Retire the fort the time being, go into adventure mode and spawn an adventurer from the animal person species you want.
Step 4: Create a ton of party members also from that species or from others you want in your fort.
(I spent about 2 hours one cozy quarantined morning creating, speccing, and spawing weapons and armor on about 50 party members. Theoretically you can spawn infinite party members but I can't verify that)
Step 5: Start your adventure with your 9035 fully armored elephant seal man swordsman companions huddled around you in a circle and immediately retire.
(protip: Starting your adventurers as rangers automatically gives them better dodging skill)
Step 6: Unretire your fortress and basque in the glory and lag of the announcement screen telling you that over 9000 elephant men have become rangers in your fort.
Step 7: Effortlessly turn the entire world into t̵͖̒ ̸̢͊h̶̺̅ ̷̧͎̃e̵̖͕̎͝ ̶̯̈́̚ ̶͖̂̽s̴̘͝ ̷̢̈́m̸̛͓ ̶̢͉͐e̵͓̦͒́ ̴̺̔l̶͍̲̾ ̶̘͉̇f̶̫͖̌ ̸͕͉̃ ̴̡̥̈́h̸͇̰̎̒ ̷̰͇̈́̇ę̷͓̔ ̴͖̒l̸͎̃ ̷̘͓̽l̸͈͇̊͑ ̷̛͔͑ ̵͉̈́̕ż̵̡͕ ̶̊͜ŏ̶͇̫̆ ̴͍̈́n̵̘͙̓͠ ̸͝ͅȩ̷̯͆ as every known and unknown site in the game becomes an occupied holding of your fort.
Some DFhack commands you may need:
fix-ster fert all
(All your adventurers start out as asexual and therefore unable to spawn babies by default, this command remedies that and also remedies any asexual animals and monsters you have in your fort for some reason)
If your starting a fort with snake men or any egg laying animal people in general you still need to build nest boxes, if you have a species that lays huge clutches of eggs and you want to start hoarding a massive pile from the get go. you can marry them off by finding their ID with.
lua print(dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit().id)
And pasting it into this command
gui/family-affairs [ whatever number the ID is]
The aforementioned command will bring up a GUI menu ingame where you can marry them off to someone their sexual orientation permits them to.
(PS. you don't have to worry about furfags or scalies because the only options you can choose in the GUI are members of the same species)
