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[King Zultan]

My mom does a lot of work with animals and I showed her that picture and she says it's an ulceration and I'll let her type out some stuff she says can help since I don't know much about this kind of thing.

Hiya! Your all purpose rentamom here. I work in animal rescue and have been treating non-emergency ailments and injuries in animals for several decades. Firstly, thank you so much for helping this cat. so many strays don't have anyone to care for them, so you reaching out to her is so admirable. From the pic the eye appears to have become ulcerated. This can occur for a number of reasons, but virus or injury are your best bet. Since she's timid around the bush, injury may well be the cause. For treatment, you're going to need to make sure you wear gloves and a thick shirt since she might decide to perforate you. Any scratches you hopefully wont receive need to be cleaned really well, as ferals can sport some nasty cooties. If you can get a h'old of her, the eye needs to be well rinsed. You can use one part water to one part peroxide for this. If you can order from Amazon US, I suggest a product called Veterimicin Antimicrobial Pink Eye Spray. This way you can just sneak up like the ninja I know you to be and squirt it right in her eye if you can't handle her. It's incredibly effective with this type of injury. And if you can actually hold her, there is an antibiotic slave (also predictably available on Amazon) called Terramycin. It's a very effective opthalmic ointment that you apply directly to the eye itself with your finger. If you can get laxtex gloves to use, that's ideal. I admit fully to having caught unspeakable eye infections when working with animals. Wash your hands well afterwards. You need to make sure to watch the eye carefully. With some corneal wounds, swelling can occur rapidly, often causing the animal to lose the eye. And I do warn you that while you may be able to save the cat's eye from further damage, it might sadly suffer sight loss. Still, better a tad blind than dead.   I hope this doesn't ramble too horribly. If you need to ask anything else, please don't hesitate. Good luck and thank you again for caring about this cat. And now, back to my sprog.

Dang that's a lot more writing that I was expecting her to do but I guess more info is better than less, hopefully it helps.

[dragdeler]

This info is very good, thankyou so much. So I'm going to clean her wether she likes it or not. Hydroperoxide I do have,  maybe even some latex gloves and swmming goggles lol... I'ts not going to be fun but if it does help the cat I'll wrestle her, I hope she can forgive me.

[dragdeler]

First attempt I weirded her out with all my stuff... Second attempt she even came closer on her own. I was unsuccesfull in creating a cat burrito, but we found some common ground where she resisted very little, curled up between my body and my knees my elbow and held by one hand. The stuff is much more viscous than I expected, barely managed to get any off. Naturally she will move away and close the eye stronger the realer it gets. The angle is all messed up, it has gotten so thick, like if I insist I'm just going to push it into the outer corner. Even with the fingers no dice. I've been washing my hands for 15 minutes and I feel like going again.

She did not make a sound, she didn't run away when it was done I gave up. It's such a great cat. I gave her some milk I think cats don't drink a lot, so it couldn't hurt get more hydration and calories I hope. I don't want to subject her to more for nothing. If she comes very close again I don't know, I really don't know what I would make of the opportunity... I mean I can try to intice her to make a step or two inside, still I have no good container (only a plain aluminium box), my access to cars is sparodic, and to try to coordinate when I will spot the cat, with when I could get her to a vet (within opening hours) is a fool's errand.

[Frumple]

Ack. For future reference, water, not milk. Weaned cats are lactose intolerant under normal circumstances, and while they'll drink the hell out of any milk you give them it usually messes them up a bit later (indigestion, runs, whatever).

I know what common media says but common media is a damn dirty liar, heh. Probably won't hurt 'em too bad, but... yeah. Water, next time. Water is good. Bit of meat (actual cat food probably best, but minimally processed whatever is usually okay, too) for calories.

[None]

How do you quantify hurt? How do you, knowing how others have been hurt, or the shape or structure of hurt, hold some kind of answer to 'was it really as bad as you think it was?' How do you know how bad you had it? How do you frame it?

this is not really a small nor random question, huh

[dragdeler]

You meaure the pain by scaling it to person's tolerance for pain, in short you don't, because you can't even instute a basic measure stck, even if a group accepted to something as silly as let's see how can hold their hand longest in the fire... There are many different forms of pain: gris, blanc, seigle tournesol olive banane pavot baguette miche, pistolet, croissant  just to name a few.

[EuchreJack]

Real life example: I was recently in the ER for what turned out was a migraine. I described the pain in my head as "Sometimes an 8, but it comes and goes".
When it hurt less than the pressure cuff, I described it as a "4" and mentioned it hurt less than the pressure cuff.

...it is NEVER a 10, or they will completely ignore you.

[dragdeler]

I hate it so much when they ask that, diagnose me you lazy bastard... I didn't come to find the magic password. Medical professionals suck so hard. Had to go 3 times to the docotor in the past 8 months and they all sucked donkeycock. Actually any sane person would have been 15-20 times in that timeperiod, but I'rather walk on a injured foot than having to live through a bunch of dissapointments.

[dragdeler]

Recently instead of guessing how an NT would behave ,I tell them pain is a bad indicator for me... The not actually visibly manifested eyeroll is palpable.


I think next time I'm asked if something hurts I'm litterally telling them "stfu do your job"

[Frumple]

How do you quantify hurt? How do you, knowing how others have been hurt, or the shape or structure of hurt, hold some kind of answer to 'was it really as bad as you think it was?' How do you know how bad you had it? How do you frame it?

this is not really a small nor random question, huh

It's not, heh. Context matters a lot, though. Someone working in neurology or whatever is going to have a much different framing (and better measurement tools) than someone just trying to function with arthritis or whatever. Pretty sure you can quantify it on some level just by nerve activation and stress response, but, like, measuring that is way outside the capabilities and budget of most people in most situations.

Comparison's the general thing, though. You look for consensus on worst pains (top level migraines, kidney stones, childbirth, for common examples) then, having experienced one of them, put everything else on the scale. If a kidney stone's a 10 (a kidney stone is, in fact, a 10, because anything past that you're insentient and can't respond and/or dead), then your broken arm's like an 8 or somethin' (haven't actually broke any bones so I'unno about actual relative level on that one; bad sinus headache/migraine -- as in, the stuff that will actually knock your ass out when it peaks -- is like a 8-9, so it's probably somewhere around there).

But you can definitely tell it's as bad as you (or someone else) thinks it was when it's literally knocking them unconscious (been there with migraines) or making them uncontrollably vomit/defecate/etc. (kidney stone) from pain or entirely unable to move or whatever (not yet!), there's a lot of stuff the most intense pains can do to fuck you up really bad. So one way to frame it is in how badly it screws up bodily function! If it hurts badly enough someone can't stand straight or somethin', like, that's a pretty easy degree of impairment to point at. Lesser stuff is harder to pin down, but still.

[dragdeler]

Pretty sure you can quantify it on some level just by nerve activation and stress response, but, like, measuring that is way outside the capabilities and budget of most people in most situations.

We probably could but it feels like that perspective comes from an alternate reality. It's more like "the computer is supposed to keep track of this, don't tell me how to do my job, oh we just wasted all kinds of antibiotics from the small pool you're not allergic to? Whoops why didn't you tell us, sucks to suck."

[Magmacube_tr]

I remember seeing an image here, of an abandoned bunker/hut/small building with Bay12 written on it. Did I dreamed it up, or is it real?

[Egan_BW]

Real life example: I was recently in the ER for what turned out was a migraine. I described the pain in my head as "Sometimes an 8, but it comes and goes".
When it hurt less than the pressure cuff, I described it as a "4" and mentioned it hurt less than the pressure cuff.

...it is NEVER a 10, or they will completely ignore you.

[Rolan7]

That really is the correct answer though!  The entire scale is based off, as fricken usual, trying to work out wtf subjective measurement these strangers had in mind when they constructed the system.

Such as figuring out the rules like "don't say 10"

[Great Order]

What's ADHD medication like? My mum had a pretty bad reaction to me saying I could go on it if I get a diagnosis. Is it bad or is it just that my mum's being overly-negative?