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Title: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Antioch on July 26, 2010, 03:30:10 pm
I personally seem to have run out of shows to watch. I it also seems like I have already seen almost every science fiction series made in the last 20 years :(.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Realmfighter on July 26, 2010, 03:36:05 pm
Warehouse 13.

Awesome bastards that they are, a Canadian channel managed somehow to get the rights to show it.

FUCK YES.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Enzo on July 26, 2010, 03:37:06 pm
Warehouse 13.

Hey me too! That show is fun.

Also Breaking Bad and Doctor Who, which are sadly on summer break :(
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Realmfighter on July 26, 2010, 03:39:07 pm
And i don't have SyFy(???) so it makes it oh so much sweeter.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Itnetlolor on July 26, 2010, 03:51:59 pm
I've finally gotten around to watching Eureka and Warehouse 13 (and there are rumors of a crossover episode between the 2; we might finally get to know what that giant spaghetti monster thing in Eureka really is). I agree about Doctor Who, that show is over with for the time being.

I've gotten around to watching Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Sick, but awesome show. And I'm catching episodes of South Park once in awhile.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on July 26, 2010, 04:10:38 pm
Doctor Who! I'm going through David Tennant's incarnation right now. But I don't think I'll ever watch the "before-Eccleston" ones.
It's such a dorky* show.

* a dork: when you meet a dork, you can't stop thinking how silly he looks and acts, but once in a while he says/does something that makes you want to scream: brilliant! And then you just can't let go.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 26, 2010, 04:25:21 pm
I sporadically watch The Mentalist and House. These last two weeks I've been watching reruns of Hercules because they played nothing else and the pure camp makes it funny enough. I am interested in Warehouse 13
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: alway on July 26, 2010, 04:40:29 pm
and Doctor Who, which are sadly on summer break :(
http://www.doctorwho-episodes.com/doctor-who-season-1-episode-1-an-unearthly-child-aka-100000-bc-aka-the-tribe-of-gum/542.html
Found a place to watch those from the very beginning. So if you run out of current episodes, you can go back and watch the old ones! :D

I've been watching those; unfortunately, my attention span is a bit shorter than the average story arc. I mean, seriously, a story is the length of a film and a half!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Euld on July 26, 2010, 05:29:53 pm
I've strangely lost interest in TV.  Had no TV during my college years, and then my mom reduced us to basic, stone age, "the only channels we get are news and her favorite reality shows" sort of cable.

edit: ok ok I'll bite.  Judge Judy  :-X
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: fenrif on July 26, 2010, 09:23:23 pm
Breaking Bad

I can't watch this anymore, it's too damn soul destroying. It's like the anti-Entourage. One show everything that can go wrong does, and in spectacularly grim ways, the other everything always goes better than expected and then at the end there's usually a party with half-naked ladies.

I was watching the new futurama, but it's rapidly becoming offensive in how bad it is. So I'm probobly not gonna watch any more. Adventure time is getting better and better though, and I just started watching Better off Ted which seems like a cross between mad men and testees.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ToonyMan on July 26, 2010, 10:15:49 pm
I was watching Venture Bros, but now I'm watching Death Note.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Retro on July 26, 2010, 10:43:59 pm
Breaking Bad

Breaking Bad is awesome and crazy-intense. I'm a little behind, though.

Don't really watch much TV these days but I watched the entire series of Spectacular Spiderman lately. Damn shame that got cancelled.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: AtomicPaperclip on July 27, 2010, 12:29:07 am
I was watching Venture Bros, but now I'm watching Death Note.

I myself hate anime and I absolutely loved Death Note.

I am watching season 2 of House, about 2 episodes a day.
Also watching Glee re-runs when they come on.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Enzo on July 27, 2010, 01:55:13 am
Breaking Bad

I can't watch this anymore, it's too damn soul destroying. It's like the anti-Entourage. One show everything that can go wrong does, and in spectacularly grim ways, the other everything always goes better than expected and then at the end there's usually a party with half-naked ladies.

Come on, it's not that soul crushingly depressing. A lot of the time it's actually pretty funny, despite the horrible circumstances surrounding every single character. Example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2yyQfTUGA) (from season 2).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: RedKing on July 27, 2010, 06:29:51 am
What is this TeeVee you speak of? I'll occasionally watch a bit of Food Network, but even that is getting overrun with reality TV. Almost EVERYTHING on the idiot box these days is either a sitcom, a crime drama or a goddamned form of game show.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on July 27, 2010, 08:32:49 am
Robot Chicken, even though the lack of a new season is starting to wear thin.
Metalacolypse, same story, although I forgive them in the name of METAL. For now.
Venture Bros, same.

Breaking Bad, for sure.
Wipeout, my guilty pleasure.

Daily Show and Colbert Report, when I remember to turn on the TV during their hours.

Whatever Nat Geo has on. It's my standard background noise channel, except when Casear Milan is on.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: jnecros on July 27, 2010, 08:56:05 pm


Just got rid of the cable and netflix  ;D

But:

lol wipeout, I watch the webcast with my wife and we love it

Will watch Ninja Warrior when it is on the web aka: in season

Bones..it kind of sucks after season 2 but, we are still watching it online

Colbert Report on the web

thats about it so far
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 04, 2016, 10:03:17 pm
6 year necro-bump woo!

Recently binged the 7 currently aired episodes of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, and it is now a strong contender against Westworld as my favorite active show. It has a sort of Dr Who vibe, what with the constant jumping from one crazy thing to the next with utter disregard for the consequences, and in the end all things are connected. Also time machines and confused companions, and mysterious cults and insane arch-nemeses. It's hard to say much more without spoilers...but I highly recommend this show, even though the first season hasn't finished yet.

Just how many different sets of guys are in this thing anyway?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 13, 2016, 03:11:37 am
People of Earth

I was initially skeptical of this show, expecting it to be a poorly-made low-budget alien abduction show that tried to be serious but failed to get the audience invested enough to succeed in any sense.

I was delighted to find that it's actually a light-hearted spoof of those shows. The aliens are not mysterious and spooky/scary, instead they're just like normal guys hanging out and casually abducting people because it's their job, while the humans are just confused enough to create a bit of light drama and keep me invested in their journey.
Nothing about the show stands out in any noteworthy sense, but it keeps me entertained for 30 minutes each week and is definitely a worthwhile filler between other shows.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 26, 2016, 05:50:13 am
Sense8 Christmas Special
It's been way too long since season 1. This special however reminded me of why I loved this show, and I'm once again looking forward to season 2.

Doctor Who Christmas Special
Less sappy compared to previous holiday specials. It didn't do much to move the plot along...but as fillers go, it was pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on December 26, 2016, 02:02:17 pm
Let's trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2XVNFzNlZ8)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: TheBiggerFish on December 30, 2016, 12:34:03 am
6 year necro-bump woo!

Recently binged the 7 currently aired episodes of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, and it is now a strong contender against Westworld as my favorite active show. It has a sort of Dr Who vibe, what with the constant jumping from one crazy thing to the next with utter disregard for the consequences, and in the end all things are connected. Also time machines and confused companions, and mysterious cults and insane arch-nemeses. It's hard to say much more without spoilers...but I highly recommend this show, even though the first season hasn't finished yet.

Just how many different sets of guys are in this thing anyway?
THEY MADE A TV SHOW OF THAT?!  WHERE?!?!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 04, 2017, 02:36:01 pm
Beyond (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5174766/)

This show strongly reminds me of Stranger Things. 80's kid, affected by phenomena from a mysterious alternate dimension, now being hounded by shady government organization. I'm 5 episodes in so far and very much enjoying it.

Edit: Just finished episode 7. Wow. They really turned things up a notch. 3 more episodes to go...
Edit2: I finished binge-watching the first season.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Lots of loose ends that should make the second season even more awesome than the first, assuming it gets renewed. I'm optimistic for renewal because the first season was great.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: George_Chickens on January 04, 2017, 02:40:06 pm
I've kind of gone off of TV shows completely.

I watched Breaking Bad and Metalocalypse, and they both eventually stopped. I watched Game of Thrones and got bored when it shifted from soft fantasy, political intrigue, and planning to "WOOOHOOOAAAH DRAGONS!". I watched Dexter to the end, despite its massive fluctuations in quality, and so on. Now I have nothing to watch  :'(
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: MrWiggles on January 04, 2017, 02:41:33 pm
They made two tv series of Dirk Gentle. The most recent one is by Max Landis, and I fucking loved it.

Watched all that, and West World. I also watched all of Mob Pycho 100. I've been enjoying Last Man on earth, Speechless, Archer. I watched the first season of the new Voltron. That was pretty good. I'll be trying to watch Thunderbirds are Go.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on January 04, 2017, 02:46:51 pm
I've kind of gone off of TV shows completely.

I watched Breaking Bad and Metalocalypse, and they both eventually stopped. I watched Game of Thrones and got bored when it shifted from soft fantasy, political intrigue, and planning to "WOOOHOOOAAAH DRAGONS!". I watched Dexter to the end, despite its massive fluctuations in quality, and so on. Now I have nothing to watch  :'(
But WOOAHH WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?

I had the rare privilege of listening to one of the actresses talking about their life career and they talked briefly on their stint with GOT, and they remarked that they felt the producers did not have a coherent idea and the show was one made by a committee of 20 people. It shows, it really does, muh snek plots everywhere

The Young Pope is bretty good. Really surprised me, the soundtrack to it is fantastic and the premise is great, basically what would happen if the cardinals elected an enlightenment era firebrand mystery atheist Pope into power.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 04, 2017, 02:57:18 pm
Recently watched a marathon of Voyager that was on BBC for new years. I'd forgotten just how many compelling characters and interconnected story lines were in that show. Sadly they only showed the first two seasons. Never even got to 7/9. I'm sorely tempted to stream the rest of it...but I've got too many other shows to watch right now.

Sherlock, season 4.
Just how long are they going to keep taunting us with Moriarty's revival that never comes? >_<
Otherwise, the first episode of the new season was decent. I would have preferred a bit more mystery and less action/adventure, but it was entertaining just the same, and I'm looking forward to the next episodes.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: TheBiggerFish on January 04, 2017, 03:00:17 pm
The Mythbusters Mega Marathon that was?  Is?  on Science Channel.  Also they're starting a search for a new team of Mythbusters.  Which is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Flying Dice on January 04, 2017, 05:44:55 pm
Rewatching the fifth season of Firefly. It's okay, but not as good as the first three. Thankfully it things picked back up from the seventh season on, and some of the new season are really gorram great.

He said from some beautiful alternate universe.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Sirus on January 04, 2017, 05:59:58 pm
Rewatching the fifth season of Firefly. It's okay, but not as good as the first three. Thankfully it things picked back up from the seventh season on, and some of the new season are really gorram great.

He said from some beautiful alternate universe.
you cruel bastard  :'(

The only thing I really watch on TV these days is Tiny House Hunters. It's like House Hunters (a show that follows people as they, well, hunt for a house), except that it focuses exclusively on people interested in very small, sometimes mobile properties. There are the expected RVs, but there are also nifty little mountain cottages and houseboats and other unusual places to live. It's pretty lame as far as entertainment goes but I enjoy the sorta-sightseeing.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on January 09, 2017, 11:22:11 am
Just finished watching the Young Pope and wow... This is the best picture I've ever seen, the only one I've seen that beat The Three Kingdoms on my list. I may conduct a full review because I believe it's worth it, I still find it no less amusing that at a first glance I thought the show was all crap flair with no substance.

My first impression was that this was House of Cards in the Vatican City, goodness how I was wrong. This picture is so unsettling, so intimate, good, politically explosive, beautifully shot, it lives in the gothic sublime of Italy and it feels it, understands it. Very rarely have I ever found a picture that demands my attention, that isn't just a distraction I can keep in the background whilst doing something else - this is a great example of a picture that needs your full captive focus. Definitely a show that should not be binge watched, every episode so dramatically alters your view on the picture that a week should be allowed to stew the meanings... Dank/10

Obligatory President of Greenland dancing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isgydm69YLE)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 09, 2017, 02:46:21 pm
Sherlock s4e2
Wow. Much more interesting than the previous episode. Just when I thought I was finally starting to see through the facade and solve at least a few of the mysteries before the reveal, everything turned out to be something else and then the cliffhanger. Brilliant.

Son of Zorn
I'm surprised that this show turned out to be so consistently entertaining and amusing, despite the underwhelming premise. Now I feel the urge to draw a picture of Aquafina and Dasani...

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
They took some risks with the first episode of the new season, making it both a musical and racial,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
. I feel like it paid off. Looking forward to the rest of the new season.

Vikings
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Levi on January 09, 2017, 05:44:47 pm
On my current watchlist:

- Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
- Justice League Action
- Steven Universe
- Agents of Shield
- One Piece
- Archer
- Star Trek Enterprise(which I've been slacking on finishing).

Probably will start up the Guardians of the Galaxy cartoon and Little Witch Academia soon.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Dozebôm Lolumzalìs on January 09, 2017, 09:54:56 pm
Warehouse 13 is cool, it's like SCP but a TV show.

Holy Armok Retro is back - damn you, necromancer.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on January 10, 2017, 06:09:32 am
Trying to get myself to finish Preacher and Westworld. I followed both avidly while they were airing and then for one reason or another I had to skip a week after which I just couldn't get myself to catch up, so now I have about 7-8 episodes out of each season and can't bring myself to finish them properly.

Also stuck halfway trough the third season of Black Mirror, it's still damn good and terrifying like it should be, I just don't feel like shitting on the technological potential of the human race right now.

So you could say I'm in some sort of TV show limbo with a bunch of stuff there, but none really being watched :V
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 26, 2017, 11:25:26 am
omg, sooooo many good shows with new episodes this week. I'm still working my way through a very long backlog, but here's just a few...

Flash
The cringe-worthy science and underwhelming relationships continue. That aside however, the show remains entertaining, at least as much as the previous seasons.

The Magicians
First episode of the new season is definitely a step down in the plot-twists and drama from the last season finale. But it did a good job of setting up the story arcs for the new season, and I'm definitely looking forward to watching more.

Supergirl
They are drawing out the whole awkward lesbian thing way too much. Also, that was easily the most pathetically guarded slave-castle ever. Overall though, enjoyable return to a decent series.

The Mick
Micky acts pretty much exactly like Dee from Always Sunny, yet somehow I like her so much better in this show. It's a fairly amusing comedy.

Workaholics
I'm sad this is their final season. It's been a good run, and they're going out with another good season so far.

Emerald City
It's a fairly interesting reboot of Wizard of Oz. Of course, so were all of the others, and they all got cancelled prematurely. Hopefully this one will last longer.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on January 26, 2017, 06:12:34 pm
Friends and I have been re-watching The Wire and re-watching True Detective (one friend hasn't seen it).
I'm also several episodes into Bored To Death, which is pretty great, although the last couple of episodes may have been a bit hit-and-miss from what I remember. Not sure why I never got into the show before, I know I saw the first episode ages ago. I would also be watching Always Sunny, but unfortunately in the household copy of it the last several episodes have been glitching and skipping a lot, so I'll have to acquire a new one.

Will I ever get up-to-date with this show?! Arrgh!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Tack on January 28, 2017, 08:00:12 am
Just started watching Frontier on Netflix.
It's... pretty good probably.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Wiles on February 04, 2017, 11:16:32 am
I just started watching the Santa Clarita Diet on netflix. It's a new horror comedy with Drew Barrymore and Timothy Olyphaunt. I don't usually laugh out loud when I watch comedies, even when I find them funny, but this one did have me laughing at certain points in the show. I've watched three episodes so far, it seems pretty good.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on February 09, 2017, 04:59:51 pm
Legion
It's like X-Men and Mr.Robot had a baby, and it's awesome, so far. Only one episode aired as of this posting, but I'm definitely optimistic going forward.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Expanse
Season 2 started recently. The show is basicaly 'Alien', if it were drawn out with lots of filler and just barely interesting. Still, barely interesting is enough to keep me watching, at least when I have nothing else new to watch.

The 100
Season 4 recently started. A major story arc ended with the previous season, and the new story arc they branched into with this season is decisively less interesting. Also they killed off some of the most interesting characters, so the future of this show doesn't look great.

The Path
We're a few episodes into Season 2 now, and the story seems to be quickly shifting from controversial religion to monetary and familial problems. I'm kinda 'meh' at this point.

Black Sails
Final season. So far, it's more of the same thing we've come to expect in previous seasons. Long monologues broken up by occasional acts of cruel violence.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on March 03, 2017, 03:22:04 pm
SuperMansion

I meant to start watching this sooner but kept getting distracted, so I've just now seen the first episode. Honestly the whole thing was hilarious. Bonus points for topless catgirl jumping on a bed. Can't wait to watch more!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on April 03, 2017, 06:40:59 pm
Iron Fist
The fourth and final Marvel miniseries leading up to The Defenders, and in my opinion the best. Likeable characters, and lots of twists I didn't see coming.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on April 04, 2017, 10:57:58 am
Iron Fist
The fourth and final Marvel miniseries leading up to The Defenders, and in my opinion the best. Likeable characters, and lots of twists I didn't see coming.

Curious to get a more in-depth opinion on this. I hear the action is... poor, and the editing worse. Can you confirm or refute??? Not to mention how dorky the main character looks.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Levi on April 05, 2017, 04:29:16 pm
I'm really enjoying Iron Fist too, its been fun. 
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on April 05, 2017, 04:38:15 pm
I completely missed that being a thing, tho I haven't been following many recent shows tbh.

Still, don't think I'll get around to watching it anytime soon seeing how much shit I queued up, among other things Always Sunny (but like, properly and from the start instead of the random hodgepodge of episodes and seasons I caught on TV), Last Man On Earth (pretty ok, if a bit too god damn cringy at times, the awkwardness is just oozing from certain scenes), then in a slightly similar vein You, Me and the Apocalypse, which only has one season (which is both fortunate and a bummer at the same time). Then there's the animated stuff like finally getting around to seeing Legend of Korra (holy shit four seasons already)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on April 05, 2017, 06:35:57 pm
Iron Fist
The fourth and final Marvel miniseries leading up to The Defenders, and in my opinion the best. Likeable characters, and lots of twists I didn't see coming.

Curious to get a more in-depth opinion on this. I hear the action is... poor, and the editing worse. Can you confirm or refute??? Not to mention how dorky the main character looks.

The only editing I noticed was the 'Iron Fist' glowing hand effect, which may have been a bit cheesy but not terrible.
The action is...no worse than most other martial arts films/shows. If you're an experienced martial artist closely analyzing every fight scene, then no doubt you'll find plenty of things to nitpick. But I feel like the focus of the show is less about the fights, and more about the characters, their relationships and motives.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on May 27, 2017, 02:51:09 pm
Sense8

I just finished watching season 2. The finale felt a bit rushed...but still, overall, amazing season. Even better than the first, which was outstanding imo. I very much hope the show gets a third.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on May 29, 2017, 08:38:34 pm
The Leftovers

I just finished watching Season 3 Episode 7. Wow. Absolutely captivating.
There's 1 more episode to go. Whatever happens next, it's been an amazing ride.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Bumber on May 29, 2017, 11:59:16 pm
Star Trek: Voyager. Just have a few more episodes left.

Also some of the anime Adult Swim shows on Saturdays. Attack on Titan, DBZ Super, Gundam Unicorn, etc.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on June 25, 2017, 08:29:28 pm
Doctor Who - Season 10

It's generally been a very average season...not good or bad, just more of what we've come to expect.
Episode 11 though...wow. Shaping up to be another amazing finale.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on June 29, 2017, 06:19:41 pm
Sadly, Sense8 was canceled after season 2. It had a pretty great 2 seasons though.
After overwhelming demand from fans for more, Netflix today green-lit a 2-hour finale to air in 2018! It's not the third season we hoped for, but it's a lot better than simply ending the show on a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 28, 2017, 06:04:22 pm
Doctor Who - Season 10

It's generally been a very average season...not good or bad, just more of what we've come to expect.
Episode 11 though...wow. Shaping up to be another amazing finale.
Heaven sent tho

Dayum 2 good 4 me

Most of the episodes I've found I've been glad to be able to skip mediocre scenes, the Doctor and Missy bouncing off one another however is fantastic
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Caz on July 29, 2017, 10:25:59 am
Killjoys season 3 is gooood.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Draignean on July 29, 2017, 10:52:57 am
Hundred Year Inheritance

It's a Korean soap opera, and so far removed from my normal fare that it's like entering an entirely new world. I'm simultaneously awestruck at how this show is a thing, and yet I'm already deeply invested in whether the female lead will recover from her tragic amnesia (no, seriously, they invoked amnesia by episode 2), and if she's going to be okay after her evil mother-in-law ordered her a kiwi drink at a restaurant- knowing full well that the girl is allergic to kiwi, but will no longer remember due to her aforementioned amnesia.

It's an experience where part of my brain is zeroed in with complete attention, experiencing every massively overacted emotion, while the other part of my brain is just staring at me with a horrified expression that says 'Wait, wait, you're not actually enjoying this, are you?'
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Caz on July 29, 2017, 03:46:34 pm
Hundred Year Inheritance

It's a Korean soap opera, and so far removed from my normal fare that it's like entering an entirely new world. I'm simultaneously awestruck at how this show is a thing, and yet I'm already deeply invested in whether the female lead will recover from her tragic amnesia (no, seriously, they invoked amnesia by episode 2), and if she's going to be okay after her evil mother-in-law ordered her a kiwi drink at a restaurant- knowing full well that the girl is allergic to kiwi, but will no longer remember due to her aforementioned amnesia.

I predict some character that may/may not be smitten with the girl that has cottoned on to evil!stepmother's plans is going to appear and shout 'NOOOOO!' before knocking the drink from her hand.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Draignean on July 29, 2017, 04:04:29 pm
Hundred Year Inheritance

It's a Korean soap opera, and so far removed from my normal fare that it's like entering an entirely new world. I'm simultaneously awestruck at how this show is a thing, and yet I'm already deeply invested in whether the female lead will recover from her tragic amnesia (no, seriously, they invoked amnesia by episode 2), and if she's going to be okay after her evil mother-in-law ordered her a kiwi drink at a restaurant- knowing full well that the girl is allergic to kiwi, but will no longer remember due to her aforementioned amnesia.

I predict some character that may/may not be smitten with the girl that has cottoned on to evil!stepmother's plans is going to appear and shout 'NOOOOO!' before knocking the drink from her hand.


Oh no, she already drank it.

Currently, she's being rushed to the hospital by the male lead. He recently got back to Seol after a three year stint in America, during which he and his girlfriend were involved in a car accident on his birthday. His girlfriend at the time was tragically killed, and, as a result of the trauma, he lost his ability to taste. Because the birthday cake was in the car, and was tragically smushed in the accident, he experiences flashbacks when he sees cake, but this is a tangent. The reason her mother-in-law poisoned her was so that she would be rushed out in the arms of the male lead, so the photographer her mother-in-law hired could get pictures of female lead in male lead's arms, to give to mother-in-law's utter mama's boy son to convince him that his now-amnesiac wife was being unfaithful to him in order to sabotage their relationship because amnesiac girl doesn't come from a nearly nice enough family.

Iz great. And awful. And great.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Caz on July 29, 2017, 04:41:14 pm
Currently, she's being rushed to the hospital by the male lead. He recently got back to Seol after a three year stint in America, during which he and his girlfriend were involved in a car accident on his birthday. His girlfriend at the time was tragically killed, and, as a result of the trauma, he lost his ability to taste. Because the birthday cake was in the car, and was tragically smushed in the accident, he experiences flashbacks when he sees cake, but this is a tangent. The reason her mother-in-law poisoned her was so that she would be rushed out in the arms of the male lead, so the photographer her mother-in-law hired could get pictures of female lead in male lead's arms, to give to mother-in-law's utter mama's boy son to convince him that his now-amnesiac wife was being unfaithful to him in order to sabotage their relationship because amnesiac girl doesn't come from a nearly nice enough family.

Iz great. And awful. And great.

You're giving me Coronation Street flashbacks now... ;_;
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on August 04, 2017, 07:43:01 am
Oh man, I'm watching season 3 of Fargo.
I'd watched a couple of episodes a while back with friends, but hadn't taken them in so well. The other day I started over (since I'm staying with family who have Netflix, and the third season's certainly made it on there more quickly than the second) and have been pretty much binging it. I know I shouldn't, I know I should savour it, but it's just so bloody good. I think I might like it even more than the first season.

Only about three episodes left. Maybe I'll just watch 'em all, then maybe I can get stuck into all the racing I was planning to do on this trip. Oh man, this show just gets better and better.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on August 09, 2017, 08:23:11 am
Dark Matter - Season 3
This show is holding up a lot better than I expected. It's got a real Star Trek vibe for me; not just because it's in space, but because each episode is it's own unique and enjoyable story arc with a satisfying beginning middle and end, all while fitting within larger series-long story arcs. A lot of it is cliché, like androids and time travel and alternate dimensions; but the diverse cast of characters, each with their own story, keep it interesting.

People of Earth - Season 2
This show really drags things out. The bumbling aliens have been on the brink of exposing themselves for one and a half seasons now, and our 'experiencers' still haven't gotten any proof of their existence. And yet I can't stop watching, in anticipation of that moment when it finally all comes out...
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Levi on August 09, 2017, 01:40:06 pm
Voltron Season 3!  Its been fun so far.  I've also been re-watching the original X-Men on Netflix.  :)

Here is my watchlist for things I'm going to watch soonish.

Rick and Morty
Little Witch Academia
Defenders
The Tick
Orville
Marvel's Inhumans
Star Trek Discovery
Punisher
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on August 15, 2017, 11:36:13 pm
Oh man. The first time I tried watching Trailer Park Boys I thought it was shit, I couldn't see what all the fuss was about. I was only recently convinced to give it another shot. Now? I just finished season 4 and I'm loving it. Plenty of honest-to-goodness LOLs and it has to be one of the most quotable shows of all time.

I guess it just took some getting into. Funnily enough, I had a similar experience with BoJack Horseman a year or two ago- I tried watching it whilst really baked, expecting some zany, over-the-top comedy and instead got a deep and thoughtful show where most of the humour was in the dialogue. Not what I expected or wanted at all, so I gave up on it pretty much immediately. Then, ages later someone convinced me to give it a shot in a better frame of mind and once I took their advice it quickly became a favourite show of mine.
Here it's kind of the opposite scenario - my expectations were perhaps a  bit too highbrow or something.
This show's brow is definitely perhaps the lowest of the low, although it is still quite clever at times if you pay attention.


Now, I think I'm going to watch the new episode of Rick and Morty before deciding whether to watch more TPB or finish the ridiculous kung fu film I started the other night. Also, BoJack season four is finally coming out next month, apparently. It's about damn time.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: RoseHeart on August 25, 2017, 10:58:49 am
Shield - Season 3
It's definitely had some strong moments. The show kind of concerns me with how crazy things are getting. You don't see anything about Inhumans appearing in the movies but it's public knowledge in the show. It also further stretches itself from the Netflix shows. There was always a subtle X-Com vibe but it's really hammered down at this point. Strongly recommend this show especially this season for XCOM fans.

Daredevil - Season 1
Like everything I'm seeing. Watching it with a friend and they are slow.

Defenders - Season 1
I really liked it :-)

Atypical - Season 1
I'm enjoying it.

13 Reasons Why
Really good. Really like the protagonist.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Criptfeind on August 25, 2017, 11:02:04 am
You don't see anything about Inhumans appearing in the movies but it's public knowledge in the show.

I think that the show is officially not cannon to the movies.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: TheBiggerFish on August 25, 2017, 01:26:51 pm
You don't see anything about Inhumans appearing in the movies but it's public knowledge in the show.

I think that the show is officially not cannon to the movies.
The movies are canon to the show, though?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Biowraith on August 27, 2017, 03:06:15 am
From what I understand, officially both are canon to each other - they're all part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe - but due to differing production times making it hard (some would say impossible) to keep them consistent and aligned, plus some sorta feud between the two camps, in practice they're kept separate with the movies getting priority when it comes to ensuring they don't interfere with each other.  So the movies pretty much completely ignore the tv shows while the tv shows only make the occasional vague or veiled reference to events/characters in the movies.



Me, I've been binge-watching a lot lately.  Over the course of a week or so I watched the entirety of Orphan Black; I'd already seen seasons 1-4, but decided to do the whole thing again before starting season 5 since that's it over now.  It's awfully good and I'm pretty satisfied with its conclusion (plus Tatiana Maslany is some sort of wizard). 

Then I binged the Defenders last weekend.  I'd rank it roughly in the middle in terms of the Netflix Marvel shows; Daredevil and Jessica Jones series 1 are tied top for me, Iron Fist is at the bottom, with Daredevil series 2, Luke Cage, and Defenders jostling in between.  It was good to see all the characters acknowledge Danny Rand as a "thundering dumbass" - it wasn't always clear whether his own series was aware of what an incompetent buffoon they were portraying him as - and the interactions between them all was fun (Luke/Danny and Matt/Jessica especially). 

And this weekend I'm halfway through season 3 of Fargo, which as expected is also very good.

In between I'm watching seasons 3 of Killjoys and Dark Matter, but I'm not binge-watching those two, just once a week as they air.  Neither are exactly the next big thing in sci-fi, but they're both pretty enjoyable in their own right.

I'm very productive with my time.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Paxiecrunchle on August 27, 2017, 08:45:14 am
Game Of Thrones and OK: K.O.

Not much else is been able to hold my interest recently.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Rose on August 27, 2017, 09:30:18 am
Watching The Defenders.

What happens if Supervillains attack like Seattle or any other city thats not New York?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 23, 2017, 10:06:50 pm
The Orville

The previews led me to expect a comedic spoof of Star Trek. And indeed, to an extent that's what it is. Episode 3 however has shown that this show can also be very serious and dramatic. It was not at all what I expected...but I hope to see more like it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on September 24, 2017, 10:41:41 pm
Orville was/is great. Hope they get renewed for a full season.

ALSO, has anyone watched Star Trek: Discovery? It too, is not at all what I expected and I find that I am pleasantly surprised with the first two episodes. I hope we also get a full season (or at least 8 more eps) to really be able to see if Star Trek is back.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on September 27, 2017, 04:16:15 pm
Just finished watching the Frankenstein Chronicles, a pretty good 19th century murder investigation-ish show starring Sean Bean.

Spoiler: spoilers! (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Antioch on September 27, 2017, 05:13:34 pm
I am rewatching Star Trek Enterprise, currently watching season 3.

Enterprise season 3 and 4 are actually pretty good. At least they dare having an actual storyline instead of voyagers reset button every episode.

Also watching Orville and Star Trek Discovery.

Star Trek Discovery episode 1 and 2 were really good and I love to see more.

Orville I am not sure yet, episode 3 was kinda meh.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on October 14, 2017, 07:58:50 pm
Way too many new shows/seasons lately...

Dirk Gently
Outlander
Inhumans
The Gifted
Flash
Gotham
Legends of Tomorrow
Better Things
Your the Worst
Supernatural
Supergirl
Shannara Chronicles
Mr Robot
Designated Survivor
The Mick
South Park
Star Trek Discovery
Luicifer

And probably a few more I'm forgetting...
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 15, 2017, 04:54:19 am
What? Shannara Chronicles got another season?

But it was so bad.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Reelya on October 15, 2017, 05:35:23 am
What? Shannara Chronicles got another season?

But it was so bad.

I've read some Terry Brooks novels, those novels were so bad too. Writing felt hammy I think, it was a long while ago. Basically if the books were as hammy as I recall then ... probably the fans of that shit think it's good, not bad. However ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shannara_Chronicles#Critical_response

They had a 70% drop-off from last season. Ratings were pretty consistent throughout the first season, but only about 1/3rd of the people who stuck around for the finale last time have picked up the new episode.

One review says it might suit if you want a teen-friendly Game of Thrones. There's no guessing this only got made because Game of Thrones was a hit.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 15, 2017, 06:44:17 am
But it's nothing like GoT, unless the only qualifier you give GoT is "fantasy". I mean, technically GoT is nothing like GoT was any more either, but still!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Reelya on October 15, 2017, 02:52:21 pm
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But it's nothing like GoT, unless the only qualifier you give GoT is "fantasy"

Duh ... that's as close as executives give a shit to think. They don't care if something is similar, they just care that they can make promos to get people to tune in based on the fact that it's a "magic thing" or a "space thing" based on whatever the last big hit was.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on October 27, 2017, 03:09:08 pm
Stranger Things Season 2 just dropped!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 27, 2017, 03:37:37 pm
What? Why would they do that? Wasn't the first season widely successful?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on October 27, 2017, 04:17:17 pm
What? Why would they do that? Wasn't the first season widely successful?

And that's why you're getting a Season 2, whether it needed it or not.

I've heard mixed, spoiler free reviews. No one says it's bad. But some do question what came first: the narrative arc or the imperative for a sequel. It's being said there's at least one clunker episode, and the overall plot of the season doesn't always feel like it holds together.

But it's said the characters are still well done and the show appears to be tilting harder toward horror than season 1 did. Still excited to watch it, I'll withhold judgment until I do.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 27, 2017, 04:45:25 pm
Oh, it dropped. I read that as it had been dropped. As in from production.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on October 28, 2017, 03:33:19 pm
Finished binging Stranger Things 2 last night.

It's not quite as good as the original, but only because there a few episodes mid-season where the plot becomes a little unfocused. Otherwise, it's the "Aliens" to the original's "Alien". The tone is different. There's more of a lovecraftian thing going on. Which is solid, but less alien than it should have been. One guy's heavily telegraphed death is just disappointing. Not only was he obviously going to die, they really hit you over the head with it when they did NOT need to. Another new character isn't in it as much as he could have been. Also they were a little afraid to explore new locations in Hawkins. And yes there are some inconsistencies in world building details, but nothing that totally ruins your immersion.

All in all though, it was a great season and worthy sequel to the original. And that's kind of what it is. Don't take it as a continuation of the original, but a sequel to it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Bumber on November 04, 2017, 08:00:30 am
Simultaneously watching multiple seasons of Pokemon on the official website. The Kanto(season 1), Hoenn(6), Sinnoh(10), and Unova(14) regions recently restarted, and Johto(3) will soon.
The selection changes every few days, so it's a bit overwhelming to keep up. On the plus side, I get coins to spend for use on my avatar and the online card game.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on November 04, 2017, 02:12:27 pm
Anyone catch Mindhunter?

Fairly recent show, think it's based on a book which was based on real events? I'm not sure, either way, it follows some FBI agents during the 60s-70s as they try a new approach to crime. Mainly using psychological profiling of serial killers to better understand their motivations and potential tell-tale signs that could help in their capture.

It's a fairly slow burning show that's pretty nicely shot and the interview sequences with these monsters are some chilling stuff as far as writing and actor performances go. Ends a bit wierdly and it's clear they're planning on a second season, but even so, could've have had a bit more of an ending.

Either way, if you like psychological drama and police procedurals this is a pretty good show that you might like.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on November 04, 2017, 07:17:15 pm
Over the past few days whilst visiting family I have re-watched the first three seasons of BoJack Horseman and yesterday, much to my excitement, I finally reached the new season.

Watched just the first episode and now, despite really probably needing sleep and stuff, I'm about to watch the second one.
So far it seems to live up to the show's incredibly high standard. Have I mentioned how much I love this show? Because I really, really love this show.

I thought I liked Stranger Things when I got around to watching it and became briefly obsessed, but it proved ultimately forgettable. BoJack, on the other hand, sticks around.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 04, 2017, 08:53:09 pm
Season 2 of Dirk Gently started out a bit slow, but it's been ramping up and tonight finally got really interesting.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on November 05, 2017, 08:38:21 am
How did I not know there is a Dirk Gently show... or more accurately, I think I remember hearing there was one, but forgetting about it until now.

I fear two things though: it's not available to me or it doesn't include enough deities turned into vending machines.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Rose on November 05, 2017, 08:59:25 am
I watched the first season, and it's not the story of the books, it's a continuation.

Dirk is now in America, and he mentions the events of the books once in passing. That, and his name, are the only two things actually connecting the series to the books.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on November 05, 2017, 09:17:41 am
I can't hear the name Dirk without thinking of Dirk Diggler.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Levi on November 06, 2017, 02:41:36 pm
Season 2 of Dirk Gently started out a bit slow, but it's been ramping up and tonight finally got really interesting.

Season 2!?!?!?!?!

Well I know what I'm watching next. :D
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: deathpunch578 on November 06, 2017, 03:03:17 pm
I've been watching Bojack Horseman recently.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on November 06, 2017, 10:26:27 pm
I've been watching Bojack Horseman recently.
Nice! It is so good. Have you seen all the seasons?


I am currently watching the first episode of Hatfields and McCoys, a miniseries with movie-length episodes starring Kevin Costner.
Fairly entertaining stuff so far! Maybe a little histrionic, but the setting, costumes and themes are all good enough that I'm still finding it quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: deathpunch578 on November 07, 2017, 09:55:27 am
I've been watching Bojack Horseman recently.
Nice! It is so good. Have you seen all the seasons?

I saw all of season 1 and half of season 2 a while ago, so I'm just re-watching it from the start.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on November 07, 2017, 11:46:47 am
Just about done with S2 Stranger Things.

Season 1 definitely was better. Season 2 isn't terrible but my god the first 4 episodes are kind of trash. I got up to EP4 in one night and didn't watch it again for a week, that's how unenthusiastic the first four episodes left me.

I feel like this is what happens when you just try to do what was successful before in a sequel. Normally, in video games, I'm ok with that, because sequels inheriting mechanics and characters makes for series continuity. In TV though.....just seems like they didn't have any real ideas to execute on. Everything that makes S2 different than S1 is additive. It's mostly new characters.

I guess I was hoping they'd go further with the story but really all it is, is the "natural" outcome of the shit that happened in S1. It's watchable but it doesn't have me nearly as hooked as S1. And it's not because all of this is familiar now, IMO. It's just that the quality of ideas they ran with are so low-hanging, and there's a lot of indulgent crap in the first few episodes that really slows everything down.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on November 07, 2017, 11:54:05 am
There's a lot of world building errors as well. Like:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also they really flubbed the monster:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And storytelling wise... Man:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: RoseHeart on November 07, 2017, 02:33:28 pm
Riverdale(looking forward to some INSANE crossovers)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Tiger & Bunny

Those are ones I watched all of recently-ish.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on November 07, 2017, 02:48:35 pm
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There's a lot of world building errors as well. Like:

Ayup. If we take the first season at face value, the problem was already widespread by then. But that I imagine created locale/framing problems, so they collapsed everything down to pretty much just one site in S2.

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Also they really flubbed the monster:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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And storytelling wise... Man:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

All in all, ST S2 feels like it could have cooked for much longer than it did. It feels like made-to-order television. And S1 didn't feel that way.

Put another way, it feels like this was a show run by producers instead of writers. All the beats that made ST S1 special are just thoughtlessly recycled. Almost like the things people thought the most about were what iconic 80s song should back up what scene. The season simultaneously takes too long with setting context and establishing characters, and not enough time on the actual action or important plot movements. (Although to be fair, Episodes 5 to 8 where people are actually doing things and figuring out solutions to problems vastly increases the show's entertainment value, compared to what you just sat through.)

I can safely say, before even watching the finale, that I don't need a Stranger Things S3. Not unless they actually do something different. There was so much missed potential in Season 2 that it's hard to not feel like it was all being phoned in.

I sort of almost expect a spin off ST series based on all the weird kids that have gotten lose in the world. But lord knows we already have enough primetime quasi-superhero shows already, I don't think it would do terribly well.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on November 07, 2017, 03:54:05 pm
Haven't seen s2 yet so I can't comment on the spoilered stuff yet. But somewhat related to it, I always thought that s1 was kind of a done deal, a self contained story that was good enough on it's own, like True Detective s1 was. Was expecting them to then do a similar thing and for s2 to perhaps share themes or even actors but to tell it's own unique story.

I really want a modern take on the twilight zone concept but a bit bigger, so instead of a single episode being a single story make it two or three. Some really great stuff can be done when you have several hours to work with, characters can have depth and arcs and shit and you'll even have time for actuon if you want to. Next best thing of course is Black Mirror, but that shit is so damn slow to come out and so easy to burn trough :C
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 07, 2017, 06:30:09 pm
I feel it's worth  mentioning that Stranger Things has a mobile game for android and apple. It appears to be styled as a retro-rpg. I haven't played, but the feedback is generally positive.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: kingawsume on November 07, 2017, 07:31:44 pm
Been dipping in and out of Initial D as of late.

If you don't mind one of the slowest startups ever (and it's a """"""""""kids"""""""""" show), Wakfu (spelled exactly like that) can be funny.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 07, 2017, 09:12:17 pm
First Bojack talk, and now anime? You people do know that we have catoon/anime threads, right? >_<
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on November 07, 2017, 09:21:42 pm
Haven't seen s2 yet so I can't comment on the spoilered stuff yet. But somewhat related to it, I always thought that s1 was kind of a done deal, a self contained story that was good enough on it's own, like True Detective s1 was. Was expecting them to then do a similar thing and for s2 to perhaps share themes or even actors but to tell it's own unique story.

I really want a modern take on the twilight zone concept but a bit bigger, so instead of a single episode being a single story make it two or three. Some really great stuff can be done when you have several hours to work with, characters can have depth and arcs and shit and you'll even have time for actuon if you want to. Next best thing of course is Black Mirror, but that shit is so damn slow to come out and so easy to burn trough :C

I'm right there with you. I really liked the format of True Detective. Too bad Season 2 was such a stinker that the whole thing is likely dead. But yeah, we need more self-contained stories set in the same world operating by the same rules and styling and themes. That's what I was so hoping out of True Detective. A crime procedural with a supernatural or at least mystical underpinning. Season 2 though was just merely creepy, on top of just being unpleasant and graphic for its own sake.

Also I want to like Black Mirror but after the episode about replaying memories and cheating spouses I kinda went "I am not the target demographic of this show."
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on November 07, 2017, 09:22:56 pm
First Bojack talk, and now anime? You people do know that we have catoon/anime threads, right? >_<
Last I checked, the cartoon thread was always either dead or filled with anime itself.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 15, 2017, 10:04:45 am
Future Man just recently released it's first season on Hulu.

It's basically like if Back To The Future and The Last Star Fighter and Terminator all had a baby that was shamelessly unapologetic about how corny it was, and still managed to be awesome at the same time. I'm only halfway through, but finding it quite entertaining thus far.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Draignean on November 16, 2017, 10:17:11 pm
I've posted it in the happy and the WTF thread, but here it is again.

I'm watching The Tick.

The Tick is amazing.

It's a children's comedy superhero book series turned into an M-rated tv series, and it fucking works.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: MrWiggles on December 01, 2017, 08:10:00 pm
The Tick was never really a childbook comic series. Thats not how the The Tick started at all. I think your conflating its amazing, but short lived Fox Saturday Morning cartoon for the comic series.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on December 13, 2017, 11:17:13 am
With my computer out of commission, I've retreated to TV to stay sane.

Roommate recommended I start watching Shameless.

It's like if Weeds and Always Sunny had a baby, and then they had the movie Kids baby sit it.

Generally I'm not up for these kind of shows. It's a mix of comedy and drama centered around a low-income family where all the kids are highly self-reliant, thieves, sexually active, drinkers, smokers, drug users, their father is the town drunk, their sister is the mother of the household, and various other sundry drama.

Sounds great, right? It actually kind of is. It sort of speaks to how I grew up, the shit my family went through. The characters are really well done, the writing is good and often funny and, of course, William H. Macy makes it all better.

It also makes pretty much any HBO show look like Disney's Magic Kingdom in comparison to how much sex there is and how much T&A they show.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: deathpunch578 on December 13, 2017, 12:06:12 pm
I recently re-watched the FIVE episodes of the clerks show, shame it didn't get more episodes.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 19, 2017, 08:16:03 pm
Dirk Gently canceled after 2 seasons. Much sad.  :(

In other news, 'Travelers' also just finished it's second season imo it was pretty great. Really hoping this one gets renewed.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Rose on December 19, 2017, 09:40:13 pm
Dirk Gently canceled after 2 seasons. Much sad.  :(

In other news, 'Travelers' also just finished it's second season imo it was pretty great. Really hoping this one gets renewed.

There's a chance Netflix might take it up, so there's that.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: MrWiggles on December 25, 2017, 04:09:54 am
WHERE THE SECOND SEASON?!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Rose on December 25, 2017, 04:21:41 am
Jan 5th if I remember right, is when it comes to Netflix.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: MrWiggles on December 25, 2017, 04:46:18 am
Thank you!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: dragdeler on December 30, 2017, 09:08:44 am
The new season Black Mirror kicks ass from the beginning till the end, had to watch it all in one piece.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on January 07, 2018, 06:43:22 pm
There's this film, disguised as a tiny wee little series (8 eps of 20 mins each) called 'The end of the fucking world'.
It's a small wonder of weirdness, warmth, heartbreak, and beauty.

It's on Netflix (EU region at least).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on January 08, 2018, 03:55:42 pm
There's this film, disguised as a tiny wee little series (8 eps of 20 mins each) called 'The end of the fucking world'.
It's a small wonder of weirdness, warmth, heartbreak, and beauty.

It's on Netflix (EU region at least).

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on January 25, 2018, 06:45:14 pm
Just watched the 4 episodes of Castlevania on Netflix.

It's good! Going to get the rest of Season 1, or Season 2 I guess?

Got a few chuckles out of me. Plenty of great fight scenes. It's gory and violent the way old 80s anime used to be. The dialog has some wit and crassness in equal measure, good voice actors. It also has the look of the games in the back drops, the architecture. The episodes so far are the set up and back story for the characters but it looks like that mostly has wrapped up and the show will be full on with the vaniaing in the castle. As a fan of Castlevania I'm apt to be really critical of it and I don't know if I necessarily like how it starts. But after the second episode it hadn't been bad at any point and had already surprised me a couple times.

So yeah, looking forward to more of this when it gets made.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on January 26, 2018, 03:23:33 pm
Just finished Season 5 of TNG... I don't know, I feel like a lot of episodes really phoned it in in S5. Like it was VERY hit or miss, lot of great episodes and a lot of lame ones. Got really bad towards the end of the season before rallying around I, Borg.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on February 04, 2018, 04:15:42 pm
So uh, Altered Carbon is a thing and a rather definitive proof that good SF is found in shows and not neccessarily movies these days, mostly because they get way more time to explore ideas and settings and aren't forced to dedicate a portion of their runtime to action sequences.
Seriously, go watch it, it's pretty damn good from what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 04, 2018, 04:25:43 pm
So uh, Altered Carbon is a thing and a rather definitive proof that good SF is found in shows and not neccessarily movies these days, mostly because they get way more time to explore ideas and settings and aren't forced to dedicate a portion of their runtime to action sequences.
Seriously, go watch it, it's pretty damn good from what I've seen so far.
I was hyped for it, but couldn't get through the first episode. I saw great visuals and interesting world building mired by wooden acting and unconvincing script.
Heck, maybe it improves later on, but the first impression was hardly positive.
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Post by: Jopax on February 04, 2018, 05:01:31 pm
There is some of that yes, but I think part of the acting is intentionally like that (atleast the main dude, some others are hard to figure out at this point), trying to convey the whole not in your own body anymore thing and the possible issues that might bring.

And yeah, the script could do with some more loosening up, tho I think again it's part of the first couple of episodes having to place all the worldbuilding blocks in place and the script is gonna have to suffer for that somewhat.

But beyond that, the world is way interesting and the little sidestories they're doing are pretty cool so I'm willing to stick with it on the merits of those alone.         

Edit:
Ok, having finished it (yay binging) I'll stick to my reccommendation with a caveat that you'll have to bear trough some really bad writing/acting/editing at times. Be prepared for cool/interesting things sprinkled very liberally with cringe or not knowing what the fuck is going on because the scene transition was done in a shit way and despited sometimes overly saying and not showing they forgot to say where they were going.   
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Post by: JimboM12 on February 25, 2018, 03:45:38 pm
hey i found a thread i can bomb netflix shows in

loving altered carbon, it reminds me of a sci fi movie that i just can't get to gel right now. blade runner? not quite but it does have elements of good ol' blade runner in terms of environment and tone. it also gets a bit strange at points (wtf r u doin, poe?!) but it does it with this sort of camp that i can't quite explain. it also uses it's own setting for great jokes: the basic premise is that humans can swap bodies and live forever cuz we dl' our brains into these disks in our necks. so how do you invite your 120 year old, long dead grandma to a birthday party? you get her a middle age skinhead body! i wont spoil anymore, just give the show a chance. plenty of nudity, i give it a solid 8/10.

also on teh block is GLOW. goddamn that brings back good memories. im a early 90's/late 80's kid; from that weird time in 1994 when i remember my sister still liking new kids on the block and wearing aviators without hipster flair. and of course wrestlin'. i remember my older brother had actually recorded most episodes of the original GLOW. god it was shitty quality but amazing. anyone remember little egypt? how about big bad mama? or mt.fuji? there was this one amazing match between matilda the hun where mt.fuji actually manages to lift matilda. matilda probably weighed like 300 pounds back then.
the show captures all of what made that great; the preparation, the threadbare budget and casting, and it tells a fictionalized version of what really happened with identifiable expys of the original glow girls. also we get to see alison brie's tits: gg, 9/10.

and finally the last kingdom. if you've played the warband dlc: viking conquest, you're dead on for setting and time. its set in the 800's during the times of wessex, mercia and vikings of northumbria and danmark. its surprisingly good, the first few episodes feel a little low budget but that somehow fits with the setting. this was the time of petty kings and constant danger for anyone not a lord. it starts with the personal issues of Uthred of bebbenburg; one of the 3 christian kingdoms in northhumbria before they get taken over by the danes. it then shifts into a grand overarching story about the guy who would become King Alfred, the Great. as the show picks up steam, we get to see some fairly realistic portrayals of how things were back then, with the big battles taking place between 2 shield walls instead of just a bunch of dudes crashing into each other in barely a formation. moderately light nudity that fades as the series gets more serious. can't decide between 8 or 9, so 8.5/10.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on February 25, 2018, 04:42:13 pm
i remember my older brother had actually recorded most episodes of the original GLOW.
Holy shit, that was based on an actual wrestling show?
Go home, America. You're drunk.


BTW, I managed to get past the first episode of Altered Carbon. Got stuck on the second. Obviously it works for some people, but I'm just not buying it. It has this feel to it like it would all kinda work in the book version, where suspension of disbelief tends to be easier. But on film everything but the visuals feels threadbare, and the silly is shining through.
The actor playing the main character, though - that physique is seriously crazy.
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Post by: JimboM12 on February 25, 2018, 04:54:46 pm
indeed it was; try searching glow on netflix, you'll get the show with alison brie and a biography about glow. watch that biography, it's pretty neat.
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Post by: Rose on February 25, 2018, 10:26:50 pm
Decided to scratch my doctor who itch with broadchurch, and I've only watched the first episode so far, but it's looking great.

As for Altered Carbon, the show was great, but there's one issue with the immortality system. Where do the new bodies come from? There's only so many criminals to go around.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on February 25, 2018, 11:53:55 pm
It's implied that there really aren't enough bodies to go around, with people renting out their sleeves for various reasons, and a lot of people's stacks just gathering dust in some warehouse or with their families. Of course, conventional birth is still a thing, cloning, synthetic bodies, and other things that are mentioned. Real death. I.E. Stacks getting blown out.
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Post by: JimboM12 on February 26, 2018, 11:23:49 am
I think i might have mentioned it in another thread, but also Ash vs evil dead is on my list. Its an incredible throwback sequel series to the movies with bruce campbell reprising his role as ash. Srsly, if u liked the movies (even just army of darkness), give at least the first episode a try
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Post by: dragdeler on March 04, 2018, 03:23:50 am
I've jumped up the Dragon Ball Super bandwagon when it start two years or so ago. Please don't judge  :D, anyway it has become my sunday morning ritual and that's cool because given their release schedule apparantly that stereotype about the japanese overworking themselves must be true... But I also get how hard it has to be to watch 150 of these in a row.

Now what I wanted to say: I like how their persistent use of music has gained so much meaning over time now when I hear those tacky mainthemes pop up at an epic moment it's like BOOOM.
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Post by: Reelya on March 04, 2018, 05:09:51 am
apparantly that stereotype about the japanese overworking themselves must be true...

Heh, reminds me of this baseball anime (Diamond no Ace: Ace of Diamond) I watched that was meant to run for 6 months. Then, it got bumped to 12 months, then to 18 months. And then on the final episode they said "stay tuned for Season 2! Which starts next week".

At this point, however, the animators had clearly had enough. Season 2 started with three recap episodes back-to-back, which I've never seen anyone do before. Basically, even the hardworking Japanese animators were demanding holidays at that point, but the network wouldn't let them take any sort of break with the show because of the huge amount of money it was bringing in with advertising.

To compare, Dragon Ball Super (which I'm not up with, I'm not a DBZ type person) has 131 episodes in 143 weeks of runtime, whereas Ace of Diamond produced 126 episodes, but in only 130 weeks. It's one of the longest animes I've watched - but by accident, since I started it on the understanding that it was going to be a fairly short show :/
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Post by: scriver on March 04, 2018, 09:29:25 am
That is pretty crazy.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on March 06, 2018, 10:41:12 am
After all that talk about Altered Carbon - if somebody wants to see a properly done cyberpunk film on Netflix, go watch 'Mute'. It's a new feature film by Duncan Jones.

(Holy shit, how in the world is this only 12% on Rotten Tomatoes?)
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Post by: Jopax on March 06, 2018, 10:57:16 am
Can't wait for them to bring out Water world next XD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzmM0AB60QQ&feature=player_embedded)
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Post by: deathpunch578 on March 06, 2018, 12:26:54 pm
I'm looking forward the the witcher show that's going to be on netflix, but I think that the show should be animated instead of live action (just worried about the cgi for the monsters being garbage or very uncanny)
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on March 06, 2018, 12:49:41 pm
Can't wait for them to bring out Water world next XD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzmM0AB60QQ&feature=player_embedded)

Lost in Space does not have a great track record for reboots, but I think a Water World TV show could be okay!
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Post by: Il Palazzo on March 06, 2018, 01:52:27 pm
I'm looking forward the the witcher show that's going to be on netflix, but I think that the show should be animated instead of live action (just worried about the cgi for the monsters being garbage or very uncanny)
Just watch the 2002 Polish tv series first, and you'll appreciate as high art any crap that's not literally a rubber basilisk.
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Post by: Folly on March 06, 2018, 03:21:46 pm
Season 2 started with three recap episodes back-to-back, which I've never seen anyone do before.
The only thing that comes to mind is the Endless Eight, which will likely never be surpassed as an example of just how lazy Japanese animators can be.

In other news, I recently started watching Black Lightning. Big surprise, it's about a black superhero fighting for racial justice in a black neighborhood being oppressed by white assholes.
Other than this predictable and utterly worn-out premise, the show is fairly average among other superhero shows currently being produced. I feel like the vocal music is entirely excessive, playing loudly in every scene, but other than that it's totally watchable.

The second half of The Tick season 1 was recently released. Spoiler Alert: Tick is not a robot.
There was some criticism, mostly that it failed to live up to expectations set by the original cartoon, and I can understand that. Still, on the whole, I enjoyed the show and hope for renewal. EDIT: I just checked, Amazon has green-lit The Tick for season 2! ETA 2019.

Counterpart. It's a show about a universe that split into two timelines, with the division occurring relatively recently. One side is basically identical to our real world. The other side has suffered some harsh setbacks in recent decades, leaving them less developed technologically and economically, and making them somewhat jealous and suspicious of our side, and resulting in spies and assassins being sent across. The show dramatically reveals stories of various individuals, their histories, motives, and experiences. Some viewers have given the show rave reviews, claiming it's the best thing on TV right now. Personally, I find the episodes extremely hit-or-miss. Some episodes just bore me...but others can be very interesting.

The Opposition. I binge watched episodes from recent months, and now look forward to the new episodes most weeknights. It's basically Comedy Central's long overdue response to The Colbert Report ending.
Comedy Central has been going downhill ever since they lost Colbert. Jon Stewart bailed on The Daily Show, then Nightly Show bombed, then they lost Chris Hardwick and for a while it looked like the channel would never recover. But now they finally have something humorous in their lineup again.
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Post by: Folly on March 28, 2018, 02:46:24 pm
Roseanne reboot is here.

First episode, the first 15 minutes were extra-cringy jokes and very bad acting. The last 5 minutes though, everything seemed to snap into place and it was as good as ever. Which is modest praise at best...but still, I'll be watching more.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on March 28, 2018, 04:17:09 pm
Finally watching The Knick. Wow. Crazy good. Clive Owen in one of his best roles--seriously, to rival Children of Men in his performance.
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Post by: Yoink on March 28, 2018, 05:20:02 pm
Whenever someone name-drops Children of Men, I sit up and take notice.
Is The Knick on Netflix?
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on March 28, 2018, 07:26:23 pm
Sadly, The Knick is NOT on Netflix. (It's Cinemax IP oddly enough; funny story that, they basically cancelled it because it was too good of a show to be on Cinemax!)
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Post by: Folly on April 04, 2018, 10:20:12 pm
I just finished The Magicians season 3. Really great finale to a good season. Season 4 is already green-lit! I can't wait to see what happens next!

Also, Legion season 2 just started, and it feels like it's going to be even better than the first season. Also way more weird and confusing, which was a pretty high bar.

The Mick season 2 just wrapped up, and was hilarious. I don't even miss Always Sunny any more. Just bring me more of this.
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Post by: Yoink on April 09, 2018, 10:52:19 am
So, after seeing it and its enticing description on Netflix the other day (at first I thought it was just a movie), tonight (well, last night) I started watching The End of the F***cking World.
Oh, man.

/me fans his face with his hands, blinking away tears.
 
This show makes me feel things.
This is like, the stuff I dream about, or perhaps one of those exceptionally nice dreams that I'm never likely to remember.
At first I had planned on waiting 'til I had a chance to read the graphic novel it's based on first, but the premise sounded so perfect that I couldn't resist dipping my toes in, and... now I don't think I'll be able to stop myself there. No doubt I shall be binging this at the earliest opportunity. So far it's living up to my expectations.
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Post by: McTraveller on April 09, 2018, 11:09:03 am
I think i might have mentioned it in another thread, but also Ash vs evil dead is on my list. Its an incredible throwback sequel series to the movies with bruce campbell reprising his role as ash. Srsly, if u liked the movies (even just army of darkness), give at least the first episode a try
My wife and I are watching this right now.  It's a guilty pleasure - it's so off-the-wall ridiculously gory.
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Post by: Reelya on April 13, 2018, 07:31:29 am
Season 2 started with three recap episodes back-to-back, which I've never seen anyone do before.
The only thing that comes to mind is the Endless Eight, which will likely never be surpassed as an example of just how lazy Japanese animators can be.

I just came across this post. In fact, it's not an example of laziness at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpAEd17Tdro

^ This is an example montage. It's the same short scene in each of the 8 episodes where Kyon's sister tells him his phone is ringing. You can get a good idea of the difference in the 8 versions of the "same" scene. Making a list of what's different each time: camera angles, lighting, scene composition and cuts, what the characters are wearing and what they are doing, as well as background noise (e.g. in some they're watching TV or listening to music etc) and voice acting. Sure it's the "same" scene 8 times, but there was no re-use of animation, or voice acting in any of the 8 versions.

In fact, Endless Eight had much more attention to detail in it than most animes. Say they were animating that "phone" scene in a normal show, then they could just animate it in the simplest way possible,  and be done with it, and nobody would know. However, Endless Eight animates 8 version of the same thing completely differently each time. That required much more forethought and attention to detail than you'd normally have to expend in doing comparable scenes. "Ill-Advised" perhaps, but not "lazy".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf-7slHHrmI
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Post by: Folly on May 29, 2018, 06:40:00 pm
I was actually enjoying the Roseanne reboot. But one stupid tweet, and now it's dead again. *sigh*
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Post by: Reelya on May 30, 2018, 05:16:35 pm
It was actually more than one tweet, but that one was the tweet that broke the camel's back.

e.g. previously she got into a thing with Chelsea Clinton by tweeting "Chelsea Soros Clinton" and when Chelsea replied she had nothing to do with the Soros' but there's nothing wrong with them, Roseane replied with a backhanded "apology" which ranted about how Soros was a Nazi "but we all make mistakes". e.g. she's been repeating some pretty hardcore right-wing conspiracy theories, about Soros as a evil puppet-master, a standard anti-semitic canard, spiced up by the "And Soros was in league with Hitler" stuff that's frankly preposterous.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So, Roseanne had a thing going linking prominent Democrats and liberals to the Nazi party on top of the whole "black Democrats are terrorist apes" thing with that last tweet. It seriously was not just one tweet. Roseanne's gone off the deep end as an Alex-Jones loving Trump supporter:

https://www.vox.com/2018/5/29/17406014/roseanne-racism-abc-trump-twitter

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This was not a first offense for Barr on Twitter (or in real life). Over the years, her language and ideas have weaved through all kinds of dark and bizarre territory. It’s not exactly consistent, either; it swings across the political spectrum, unified only by its extremity. She promoted Pizzagate. She believes 9/11 was an inside job. She flags vaccine conspiracy theories. She called Israel a “Nazi state” in 2009 and promoted a Holocaust-denying musician in 2013. Then she turned around and became a massive supporter of Israel (and a rabid opponent of the Boycott, Divest, and Sanctions movement).

It just goes back to that old maxim "never meet your heroes in real life". In this case, twitter is bringing our heroes to us, and we don't always like what we're seeing.
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Post by: dragdeler on May 31, 2018, 03:10:03 am
So I just watched Family Guy S16E19... Who else shouted "it's a gelding blow!"?!
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on July 04, 2018, 02:16:51 pm
Just got started on Ash vs Evil Dead! It is fantastic!
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Post by: Folly on July 05, 2018, 02:49:18 pm
Regarding my last post, Roseanne has been confirmed for a reboot without Roseanne, titled 'The Conners'. I'm glad we will get to see more of the new characters and find out how their stories unfold. Also more than a bit curious how they are going to remove Roseanne from the picture. She had an upcoming surgery, and a drug addiction, so they could easily kill her off or just stick her in recovery/rehab indefinitely.

I just finished watching Luke Cage season 2. I feel like this season climaxed too early, with the most intense action happening less than halfway through. The ending however, was very interesting, and I'm very much looking forward to seeing the next season. Overall, the series is turning out a bit better than I expected from such a boring character, but it's still far from the best superhero story I've ever heard.

Also from the Superhero genre, I'm watching the ongoing series Cloak and Dagger. The characters are a bit whiny and theirs origins cliché. But their powers are interesting, especially as they are still being discovered. And somehow, each time the story starts to get boring, they throw in some unexpected twist that makes me want to watch more. Overall I'm enjoying the show thus far.

Another ongoing series that is quickly coming to an end, 12 Monkeys season 4. I honestly can't remember half of the references to earlier seasons and I'm fairly certain that most of this time travel stuff makes no sense at all...still though, interesting to watch and try to make some sense of what's happening.

About to start Lost in Space, knowing only that it has mixed reviews and has already been renewed for a second season. After that I'll likely be looking into the latest season of Bosch.
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Post by: nenjin on July 05, 2018, 02:54:51 pm
I predict "The Connors" will do ok for a while and be cancelled within two seasons. I just don't see much to the show without a lynchpin main character.
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Post by: Reelya on July 06, 2018, 06:22:16 pm
That sounds about right.

I think the most successful one ever could be Laverne and Shirley (8 seasons) which followed two minor characters from Happy Days who appeared in the show 5 times out of 250 Happy Days episodes. Mork and Mindy (4 seasons) was also based off a one-episode character from Happy Days.

Notably, Joannie loves Chachi, which was based on regularly appearing characters was the flop. There were also a couple of series they made as deliberate tie-ins to Happy Days that flopped hard. The ones that worked were the unintentional ones where the audience liked specific very rarely appearing Happy Days characters so they later decided to spin them off into their own shows. Putting that in Star Wars terms, they'd have been better off making a Boba Fett movie or a Lando Calrisian origin movie, than the Han Solo movie. Han didn't need his own movie, he's over-saturated in three movies already.
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Post by: scriver on July 07, 2018, 12:18:47 pm
I was a big fan of Cloak and Dagger in the comics when I was a kid. I was happy when I saw they were a getting a tv show but I didn't actually bother watching it because the Inhumans were just so fucking bad (also I really hate the idea of inhumams) and the Runaways looked like it would be bad in the same way.
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Post by: Senclair on July 17, 2018, 08:03:43 am
I was a big fan of Cloak and Dagger in the comics when I was a kid. I was happy when I saw they were a getting a tv show but I didn't actually bother watching it because the Inhumans were just so fucking bad (also I really hate the idea of inhumams) and the Runaways looked like it would be bad in the same way.

Cloak and Dagger is a lot better than I expected. (https://www.mapleholistics.com/blog/) Final Space is getting added to Netflix soon so I am excited for that.
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Post by: Folly on July 19, 2018, 09:00:05 pm
C&D ep 8 aired tonight.

Wow. This show is easily getting my vote for best superhero show of the year. Maybe best of the decade.
This show reminds me of Ar Tonelico, and it's cosmosphere dives. I just love the idea of diving into a manifestation of people's psyche, and discovering that they are not at all what you thought they were.
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Post by: Yoink on July 22, 2018, 04:57:29 am
I'm watching Snowfall.
It's pretty great. I mean, I'm not exactly analysing it all that closely, but it has enjoyable characters, engaging plotlines, a nice historical setting and its fair share of satisfying moments.
Kind of like the new, more retro The Wire, set in LA instead of Baltimore and a li'l less heavy on the politicking. Also much less focus on police officers and their procedure, if that's a turn-off for you (although The Wire was probably the least tiresome police drama I've ever seen, anyway).
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Post by: Yoink on August 01, 2018, 03:08:27 am
Barry.

And it is indeed barry! Just the basic premise (Bill Hader playing a hitman?!) was already sounding amazing to begin with, but then it just keeps getting better and better, with a fantastic support cast and more suspense than anything I've watched in a while (I mean, Snowfall had its share of sphincter-clenching moments, but this is more of a comedy, and still gives it a strong run for its money).
Damn, I've been watching some really good shows lately.

Also been watching Schitt's Creek with my mother. Not the sort of show I'd usually watch on my own, but it's charming nonetheless. :)
Oh, and earlier I watched the first episode of Happy! (damn, I hate it when titles end with punctuation), after coming across it and remembering the interview I saw in Image magazine about it a while back - it's a comic adaptation, apparently. Probably about the closest thing I can stomach to a "superhero show".
Not sure if I really like it yet, the characters seem about as flavourful as a sawdust-garnished cardboard consomme, but it had enough entertaining violence to hold my attention for the duration of the pilot at least.
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Post by: Caz on August 01, 2018, 05:43:04 am
and finally the last kingdom. if you've played the warband dlc: viking conquest, you're dead on for setting and time. its set in the 800's during the times of wessex, mercia and vikings of northumbria and danmark.

hah totally! when i recommended that show to a friend i described it as "mount&blade: the tv show."

season 2 made me cry :(
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Post by: scriver on August 01, 2018, 06:10:25 am
Is it the one with the viking leader what has a girl's name?
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Post by: Caz on August 01, 2018, 06:34:17 am
Is it the one with the viking leader what has a girl's name?

I don't think so? Though I'm not 100% sure on the gendering of old english and norse names.
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Post by: RoseHeart on August 01, 2018, 04:58:30 pm
Gotham
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Post by: scriver on August 02, 2018, 06:25:12 am
No, I only eat kosher
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on August 02, 2018, 11:01:34 am
Watch Vikings instead
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Post by: Yoink on August 02, 2018, 07:45:30 pm
Ewwwww. That show is so bad it causes me physical pain.


...Oh yeah, uh, to stay on topic, I've started watching Bored To Death with mi madre. I felt there was a 50-50 chance that she'd like it or loathe it (I've seen the first few episodes before, ages ago), and fortunately she loves it so far!


Also yesterday I discovered two new shows that seem quite enjoyable: Welcome To the Family from Catalonia and Kim's Convenience from Canada.
Welcome To the Family seems quite wonderful so far.
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Post by: Reelya on September 07, 2018, 01:47:12 am
Ok, here's the thing, I've been off Netflix so long that they've emailed me to offer me another free trial period.

I'm thinking of taking them up for one month for that. Can people recommend a bunch of must-see shows or movies that are on there?
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Post by: Yoink on September 07, 2018, 01:56:44 am
Ok, here's the thing, I've been off Netflix so long that they've emailed me to offer me another free trial period.

I'm thinking of taking them up for one month for that. Can people recommend a bunch of must-see shows or movies that are on there?
A Very Secret Service! The End of the F***ing World! Santa Clarita Diet! Bojack Horseman!
Probably the four best shows on Netflix, off the top of my head. Been a while since I've had access to Netflix, though, so there are doubtless plenty that I'm forgetting. Took me a while to remember just those four, even.
Also there are older shows like Black Books, but I'm sure you would have seen all of that. Oh and I watched the first episode of some cop show that turned out to be surprisingly good, can't remember the name, though.

Edit: oh, The Good Place is on there, too. Highly recommended.
Takes a couple of episodes to get into, but it's worth it.
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Post by: Enemy post on October 13, 2018, 08:43:53 pm
I've started watching Man in the High Castle's new season. I'm three episodes in, Smith's still a fascinating villain protagonist. I'm still kind of rooting for a nuclear war to spoil the Nazi's victory, though.
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Post by: Yoink on October 13, 2018, 09:20:52 pm
Watched a couple episodes of a show called Maniac the other day. Very... interesting.
I think I'd need to watch more to really get into it, but it menaces with spikes of psychology, drug use and is adorned with hanging rings of Vaporwave. The setting is pretty much fascinating, though I didn't get much of a feel for it. The show doesn't hesitate to go off on seemingly-bizarre tangents.

It's apparently by that guy with the name that sounds like a string of cuss words, who worked on True Detective and probably some other shit.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on October 14, 2018, 12:14:23 am
Maniac is very fun, but also frustrating. It often stumbles, hitting the wrong notes, which keeps it from being great. I couldn't quite put my finger on whether it's the writing or the direction that's the issue.
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Post by: Caz on October 14, 2018, 07:42:37 pm
New Doctor Who is good.

Spooky evil!therapist bandages of death = most hilarious DW villain ever.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 14, 2018, 08:15:50 pm
New Doctor Who is good.

Spooky evil!therapist bandages of death = most hilarious DW villain ever.
New Doctor Who worth looking into? I started with Christopher Ecclestone (pretty fuckin good one), David Tenant (obviously the best), didn't watch Matt Smith or the specials then (real life time constraints more than anything), got back into it for Peter Capaldi (Ehhhh... Either I grew less forgiving or the writing of the show declined. Heaven Sent blew me the fuck out however). When I saw they had a femme Doctor for the new season I was concerned that they were going to be gimmicky on the casting, but then I realised that they got Whittaker, who I saw from Attack the Block when it came out, and I think she's perfect for DW's range of high sci fi in council flats style. Attack the Block is fucking great, it's also one of those films where you can see loads of actors like Boyega before they became super famous

Anyways what I'm asking is the new seasons any gud, if yes or no y so
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Post by: Folly on October 14, 2018, 09:15:01 pm
I'm not a fan of the current Dr Who season.
Season premiere had lame aliens, weak special effects, and did very little for the greater story arc of the season. The bicycle thing was super cringy. And I couldn't understand half of what was said because of thick accents. Also, we apparently have three companions this season, and none of them are fun or interesting in any way.
Second episode was utterly predictable. 5 minutes in I called everything that unfolded over the rest of the episode. And why is the new TARDIS a giant beehive?

In other TV news, Titans recently began. It's a live-action version of DC's Teen Titans.
Starfire is an absolute travesty. Apparently someone decided that the young cute naive orange alien girl should be played by an old fat black french whore who has amnesia. Probably the most popular character from the series, and they completely ruined her.
Beastboy was just thrown into the mix with no backstory, when clearly he is the character who needs backstory the most. Hopefully they will address this with some flashbacks, and not just leave him as the unexplained comedy relief of the show.
Raven is a bit different. In past iterations she tends to be a broody girl who has found balance with her demonic side. Here she's more of a nice girl who is haunted by a demon who occasionally comes out to paint the walls red. It will take some getting used to, but I think it could work.
Robin is pretty much exactly what you would expect. They've kinda merged a few of the different Robin's together, but it's nothing terribly new.
Overall, I'm cautiously hopeful for the future of this show.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 14, 2018, 09:16:34 pm
Is Titans at least enjoyably bad, a la "Fuck Batman?"
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Post by: Reelya on October 14, 2018, 09:43:44 pm
I'm not a fan of the current Dr Who season.
Season premiere had lame aliens, weak special effects, and did very little for the greater story arc of the season. The bicycle thing was super cringy. And I couldn't understand half of what was said because of thick accents. Also, we apparently have three companions this season, and none of them are fun or interesting in any way.
Second episode was utterly predictable. 5 minutes in I called everything that unfolded over the rest of the episode. And why is the new TARDIS a giant beehive?

Notably, on Rotten tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/doctor_who/s11/) 95% of critics are in favor however only 63% of the audience is positive. My guess is that no critic would be willing to ruin their own career by saying they didn't enjoy it, and thus getting bombed on social media about it.


I'm not sold on the concept. The main question I'd have is whether this is going to hit the core demographic that they think it will. My take on this sort of thing is that looking across 50 years worth of television and movies gives a pretty good idea of the types of things that are actually popular with women and hitting those points pretty much ensures you have a hit - that's behind things like Twilight and 50 Shades' success. Meanwhile, women will also tune into to see a cute guy or two doing adventures, and guys will also watch as well which explains the phenomenal success with women of things like Supernatural or all those detective shows, despite, or perhaps because of their male lead characters.

However, a small subset of women - the 9% of women who identify as feminists on the UK suveys (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/only-7-per-cent-of-britons-consider-themselves-feminists/) think they know better than the 91% of women what those women should like, so they push for "agendas" in media that's already popular with women. Hey, maybe think for a moment that if only 9% of women identify with your ideas, and a particular show is already popular with women, then changing it in accordance with your statistically unpopular ideas might just backfire and turn more women off the show?
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 14, 2018, 09:54:32 pm
I always find it intriguing yet disturbing whenever publicly liking or disliking something is a commercial and politically significant act
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Post by: Folly on October 14, 2018, 10:01:07 pm
Yeah, saying that you don't like the first female Doctor is like saying 'I hate feminism'. Very few real critics will be willing to poke that hornet's nest.

I have no issues with the actress or her performance. My beef is with the script and supporting cast. The season premiere was literally 'Toothface and his pet flying spaghetti monster hunt humans for sport'. Dr Who is supposed to be campy bad, but this is just stupid bad.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 14, 2018, 10:03:24 pm
Yeah, saying that you don't like the first female Doctor is like saying 'I hate feminism'. Very few real critics will be willing to poke that hornet's nest.

I have no issues with the actress or her performance. My beef is with the script and supporting cast. The season premiere was literally 'Toothface and his pet flying spaghetti monster hunt humans for sport'. Dr Who is supposed to be campy bad, but this is just stupid bad.
Reminds me of one of the Tenant ones where the enemy was literally a CGI scribble ball. Hopefully it's anomalous
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Post by: Caz on October 15, 2018, 11:22:17 am
New Doctor Who is good.

Spooky evil!therapist bandages of death = most hilarious DW villain ever.
New Doctor Who worth looking into? I started with Christopher Ecclestone (pretty fuckin good one), David Tenant (obviously the best), didn't watch Matt Smith or the specials then (real life time constraints more than anything), got back into it for Peter Capaldi (Ehhhh... Either I grew less forgiving or the writing of the show declined. Heaven Sent blew me the fuck out however). When I saw they had a femme Doctor for the new season I was concerned that they were going to be gimmicky on the casting, but then I realised that they got Whittaker, who I saw from Attack the Block when it came out, and I think she's perfect for DW's range of high sci fi in council flats style. Attack the Block is fucking great, it's also one of those films where you can see loads of actors like Boyega before they became super famous

Anyways what I'm asking is the new seasons any gud, if yes or no y so

I think it's a lot better than previous seasons so far, love that they went proper Northern with it. Whittaker's Doctor seems pretty Tennant-ish so far but I get the feeling that it's sort of a mask from the 2nd episode. It's really weird not having Murray Gold do the soundtrack but the new one is surprisingly good tbh.

Also crystal tardis is best tardis. IT HAS A CUSTARD CREAM DISPENSER.


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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 16, 2018, 04:28:03 pm
Also crystal tardis is best tardis. IT HAS A CUSTARD CREAM DISPENSER.
Teletubbies crossover wen?
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Post by: Reelya on October 16, 2018, 05:13:29 pm
Finally finished Star Trek up to Enterprise. Enterprise wasn't actually *too* bad considering I went in expecting it to be really bad. Definitely had its moments. I especially liked the Mirror Universe plotline in the 4th season (however those are only really fun if you know what the characters are like normally). So now I've seen TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and all the movies up to 2002. Time to take a break from Trek. My Trek marathon started in mid-2014, and I'm pretty sure all that adds up to somewhere around 700? episodes worth of material.

After that I've caught up a couple of other old shows I wanted to watch for ages. Twitch City is an "anti-sitcom" from Canada that was around in 1998-2000. It's a bit similar in concept to the BBC comedy Spaced, though the tone and humor are quite different. I'd recommend both those shows if you like quirky unusual comedies.

Now I'm going to watch the 1978 TV series Quark. It's a single-season Star Trek parody that was created by one of the creators of Get Smart. After that, I'm going to watch the UK version of House of Cards from circa 1990. I never saw past the first season of that originally. I guess it sucks for a lot of people that the Kevin Spacy stuff happened before the remake was finished, and that whole debacle doesn't incline me towards checking out the American version whatsoever.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 16, 2018, 05:16:34 pm
American version is about an amoral manipulator abusing their power to sexually assault their underlings, makes Kevin Spacey's performance rather more horrifying in hindsight
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Post by: Folly on October 16, 2018, 05:42:24 pm
So now I've seen TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and all the movies up to 2002. Time to take a break from Trek.

All of that, and you're not going to start watching Discovery or Orville? Or are you waiting for each series to be completed before you watch?
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Post by: nenjin on October 16, 2018, 06:33:30 pm
American version is about an amoral manipulator abusing their power to sexually assault their underlings, makes Kevin Spacey's performance rather more horrifying in hindsight

Emphasis on more horrifying. It was unpleasant and creepy even before all this stuff came out. Now it looks a little like the Kevin Spacey fantasy hour, knowing what we know.
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Post by: Reelya on October 16, 2018, 06:53:38 pm
So now I've seen TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and all the movies up to 2002. Time to take a break from Trek.

All of that, and you're not going to start watching Discovery or Orville? Or are you waiting for each series to be completed before you watch?

I don't have any services to watch those without pirating them, and pirating airing TV shows is too much effort for little gain.
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Post by: scriver on October 17, 2018, 12:03:11 am
American version is about an amoral manipulator abusing their power to sexually assault their underlings, makes Kevin Spacey's performance rather more horrifying in hindsight

Literally? Well, shit.
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Post by: Reelya on October 17, 2018, 08:31:19 pm
I'm watching How I Met Your Mother now. Started watching it with a girlfriend on TV. We broke up though so I never saw past about season 3. The hook of who the effing mother is kinda bugs me so I'm going to finish it. It's actually brilliant from a marketing point of view to make the entire show be about something that hasn't even happened in the show yet. The typical sitcom is just about a static situation but HIMYM has a story dynamic built in.

What strikes me about this shows is that it's kinda like the last big Gen-X sitcom series. Some people call it a show for Millennials but it really isn't. The culture in that show is definitely pre-internet. Their main form of mass-media is TV ffs. And characters worrying about turning 30 in circa 2005 is not a show about the millennial generation. By the end of season 9 in 2014 the characters would be edging towards 40 years old.

It's about a bunch of tail-end Gen X people moving on from the party days and thinking about settling down. Things like the constant references to 1980s TV shows (Who's The Boss referenced in the episode I just saw), and the fact that the internet is still kinda treated as a novelty in that show (Robin's teenage sister noted to be blogging on MySpace) really cements it as being Gen-X.

The Big Bang Theory would be the Millennial equivalent.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 18, 2018, 01:45:06 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Anon's summary of new doctor who has me intrigued
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Post by: Caz on October 18, 2018, 01:53:09 pm
AHS: Apocalypse is... interesting so far. It's like they mashed together the ideas of several seasons.
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Post by: Folly on October 23, 2018, 03:36:28 pm
I finished watching Daredevil Season 3.

The season started out a bit weak, with no suit and no special effects and a lot of moping as Daredevil recovered from injuries in the previous season. Things really picked up when Kingpin's plan started coming together, and there ended up being lots of surprising twists and several good fight scenes. Then the ending was a bit disappointing, with an unbelievable compromise being reached which never should have worked. Still, overall an enjoyable season.

Sadly, Marvel's Netflix series have been dropping fast lately, with both Iron Fist and Luke Cage being canceled. So there's a very real possibility this will be the end of Daredevil as well.
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Post by: Levi on October 23, 2018, 03:53:55 pm
I can't believe they dropped Iron Fist.  Especially since it ended with fricking kickass chi-guns and gave me a nerd-boner.

I'm rewatching Castlevania on netflix in preparation for season 2 on friday. 
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Post by: Rose on October 23, 2018, 09:26:58 pm
Started watching Hilda on netflix.

It's adorable, that is all.
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Post by: Reelya on October 27, 2018, 05:27:47 am
Apparently there was a huge drop in the viewer numbers on episode 3 of the new Dr Who season:
https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/doctor-who-season-11-ratings/

A 40% drop in the core demographic between episodes 2 and 3. In previous seasons the biggest drop between any two consecutive episodes was about half of that. Now the current Dr Who ratings are already back into the range of the weak 2017 season.
https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/doctor-who-season-10-ratings/

Also, while the idea is nice to have a Rosa Parks episode, the entire premise seems a bit ... racist in the "great white savior" sort of paternalistic way. Time-traveling (mostly) white people have to make sure the Rosa Parks incident occurs properly. GTFO.
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Post by: KingofstarrySkies on October 27, 2018, 07:00:36 am
i've heard good things about the female doctor, makes me happy. she reminds me of 11, which was my favourite doc so i'm onboard for that shit

more importantly, i've been watching my cat from hell the most important show ever made
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Post by: Caz on October 27, 2018, 09:01:27 am
Also, while the idea is nice to have a Rosa Parks episode, the entire premise seems a bit ... racist in the "great white savior" sort of paternalistic way. Time-traveling (mostly) white people have to make sure the Rosa Parks incident occurs properly. GTFO.

Only half of them are white.
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Post by: Rose on October 27, 2018, 08:42:16 pm
Honestly, I got tired of the whole "It was terrible for black people" getting smashed over my head constantly, and quit the episode halfway through.
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Post by: Reelya on October 27, 2018, 08:50:39 pm
Also, while the idea is nice to have a Rosa Parks episode, the entire premise seems a bit ... racist in the "great white savior" sort of paternalistic way. Time-traveling (mostly) white people have to make sure the Rosa Parks incident occurs properly. GTFO.

Only half of them are white.

The main one is white. Arguing that only half of them are white so it's not racist is like arguing that the Doctor's companion is a woman so having a male Doctor all the time is not sexist. Fact is, a white (male or female) Doctor has no place setting up the Rosa Parks incident any more than a male Doctor would be ok to go back and save the Suffragette movement.

Honestly, I got tired of the whole "It was terrible for black people" getting smashed over my head constantly, and quit the episode halfway through.

Yeah,  one of the articles I read was saying that previous episodes had touched on racism, but now we get a proper entire episode about racism. Sounded like complete overkill, and very preachy. Also, presenting a specific group as always being victims all the time, and nothing good or happy happening, ever, can in fact diminish the fact of how resilient those people really were.
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Post by: Folly on October 27, 2018, 10:50:06 pm
(mostly) white people...
Only half of them are white.
The main one is white. Arguing that only half of them are white so it's not racist...

I think he was arguing that half does not constitute a majority.
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Post by: Eschar on October 27, 2018, 11:34:12 pm
I'm watching Manifest.

It's interesting, but I liked Lost better...

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Post by: Yoink on October 29, 2018, 11:32:32 am
For some reason the creator of the Townes Van Zandt album playlist I was listening to added an episode of Postman Pat on the end of it.

It... hasn't aged too well. :-\ It isn't unbearable, though.
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Post by: Reelya on October 29, 2018, 09:23:46 pm
If you think Postman Pat has aged well then you wouldn't have aged well. It's for preschoolers. And, given the life experiences of preschoolers it's probably just as good as it ever was.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on October 29, 2018, 10:26:33 pm
The main one is white. Arguing that only half of them are white so it's not racist is like arguing that the Doctor's companion is a woman so having a male Doctor all the time is not sexist. Fact is, a white (male or female) Doctor has no place setting up the Rosa Parks incident any more than a male Doctor would be ok to go back and save the Suffragette movement.
http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/07/20/doctor-who-suffragettes-and-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-progress/
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Emmeline_Pankhurst
You've probably jinxed it
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Post by: Folly on November 01, 2018, 12:04:35 am
Dr Who S11E4
First episode this season that I felt had a proper monster and mystery and wasn't overly preachy or cringy. I liked this episode, up until the end. They had a city full of monsters that reproduce rapidly and feast on human flesh, then they kill one of the monsters, and just walk away. I mean, what the hell? The companions even had friends and family in that same city, and they just get in their TARDIS and fly away with the sewers still overflowing with creepy crawly things? That's a pretty major plot hole.

Edit: Also, they attempted to parody Donald Trump, making an even bigger, stupider, and more offensive version of him. They failed. Real Donald Trump is still much worse.
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Post by: Kagus on November 01, 2018, 02:53:09 pm
Currently watching The Norsemen. I'd heard it recommended, saw the trailer involving the grand magical thumb ritual, told my parents about it, they watched it, and now they recommended it back to me. So after mentioning it a few times, I got my girlfriend to go along with trying it out.

We recently finished off the first season, and she's really digging it. I was expecting... I dunno, something a touch more over the top, I guess? I mean, it's alright, and it certainly has its fun moments, but it can be a bit low-octane at times, it feels. I was expecting more thumb pulling and spectacular feats of magic.

That is absolutely what Norwegians sound like when speaking English though. Which is pretty funny, since a few of the people involved are actually quite talented and experienced actors who are perfectly capable of speaking without such an outrageous cadence and accent.


We'd started in on watching the old X-Files, which is definitely my kind of dumb sci-fi classics-worship, but apparently rubbed her the wrong way. Now she's looking to re-watch Outlander, and wants me to join in this time. I'm just not sure how excited I am about time-traveling Scottish romance...
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Post by: Il Palazzo on November 01, 2018, 03:38:48 pm
Outlander (season 1 at least) was actually pretty good, as far as romances go. Good production values, fine acting, and very sensual.
That is, if you can get over the male lead having the physique that he does, and being cast as a 16yo virgin. That requires some effort, since the guy is obviously around thirty, and is the kind of testosterone-and-protein infused haggis who - as soon as his balls started dropping - would attract noble ladies and common wenches alike, travelling from far and wide to have a go at letting his Nessie play in their loch.
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Post by: x2yzh9 on November 01, 2018, 03:52:50 pm
Gotham
I personally like it, seems to be really cool as far as the batman universe goes, and it gives detailed backstories to all of the villains that are present in the DC universe and such. Hopefully it will do all of them, its very cool. It details the young bruce wayne and how he grows up to be batman.
Spoiler: Spoilers! (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Folly on November 01, 2018, 04:12:10 pm
Outlander (season 1 at least)...if you can get over the male lead having the physique that he does, and being cast as a 16yo virgin. That requires some effort, since the guy is obviously around thirty

Minor spoilers...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Yoink on November 01, 2018, 07:04:24 pm
Currently watching The Norsemen.
Is that that really silly comedy that starts with a bunch of vikings returning to their village with a haul of plunder and slaves? I watched an episode of that if so, and it was pretty damn awful.
Still not as bad as Vikings, though, hahaha.


Also, Outlander... ew. To be honest I barely watched it at all (and am probably getting some elements mixed up with the Poldark reboot, which my mother was watching prior to it) but it seemed pretty dreary and bland.
Although I suppose as far as mi madre's taste in television goes, it could be worse. It could always be worse.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on November 01, 2018, 07:25:53 pm
Oh, shut up. You're just not man enough to watch two people whose love transcends time and plausibility.
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Post by: Yoink on November 01, 2018, 07:57:23 pm
I'd rather take my chances with the hilariously bad 2008 film of the same name. :))
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Post by: Reelya on November 02, 2018, 03:24:56 am
I'm watching the original Battlestar Galactica. Some of the acting is amazing(ly bad). Lots of re-used footage, and footage / props recycled from other movies, such as the fleet's agricultural ships - which are literally the same ships from Silent Running.

In one episode, there was a close-up of a "sci-fi" wrist-watch one time they needed to synchronize times for some plan, but it was literally just a pocket calculator watch. No expense spared here. I guess that counted as sci-fi-looking in 1978.

Also, it staggers belief, but it turns out the kid's pet robot-dog was played by a chimp in a suit. Haha, that's the sort of shit they'd never try today. I'd imagine that they only avoided a "chimp bites kid's face off" scandal due to the show being cancelled after one season, since the kid is so goddamn annoying. Kid's a terrible actor and it's a terrible character. For example, one time they're trying to infiltrate a Cylon base and the kid's robot-dog runs off, and the kid just runs after it yelling the dog's name at the top of his lungs. And they use the same plot device multiple times of the kid running off screaming after the robot-dog who randomly runs off whenever they're in hostile territory and require stealth. Just shoot the kid in the back of the head already.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71a2ReyTmrL._SX569_.jpg)
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Post by: Napagady on November 02, 2018, 03:49:06 am
I watched NARCOS first and second seasons. I want to watch third as well but i heard that season 3 is lame and boring. Maybe somebody watched it and can tell few words about it ? Season 4 is also coming yeah?

Thanks!
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on November 02, 2018, 04:53:30 am
Been watching Peaky Blinders recently, two seasons down. Sure, it gets a bit edgy and could think of more creative dialogue than a fuck every two words, but the 20s setting with its bleak industrial Birmingham, the swanky style and aesthetics, and period-appropriate political machinations keep me entertained. The characters are generally pretty interesting too. The soundtrack is great but could spam the theme song a lot less.
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Post by: Folly on November 02, 2018, 07:50:02 am
The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina

I just finished watching the 10 current episodes of this rebooted Sabrina the Teenage Witch. The first couple episodes have some pacing issues, with long segments where nothing interesting happens. Then in the middle there are a few mostly filler episodes. Things really pick up towards the end though. Overall, they took relatively shallow source material and gave all of the characters depth, added more supplemental characters, and gave them a major antagonist to keep things interesting. There's just enough blood and satanic worship to give the show some edge without going overboard. I enjoyed watching, and am looking forward to the second season which has already begun filming.
I am however somewhat disappointed that Salem never talks after he is first introduced.
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Post by: Folly on November 04, 2018, 02:35:51 pm
Episode 4 of Titans finally give Beast Boy a backstory, and it's pretty good. I was not previously familiar with the Doom Patrol, but from the comments I've read it seems they were done justice.
I still hate Starfire.

Outlander Season 4 has started. It was a strong season premiere. Claire and Jamie just can't stay out of trouble...
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Post by: Yoink on November 12, 2018, 02:14:13 am
Okay, season five of BoJack was off to a bit of a shaky start, but now at episode four it seems to have really hit its stride.
I've noticed myself cackling fairly regularly throughout. Generally a good sign!   


Edit: okay, I have sampled two new animated shows that were featured prominently on Netflix: Paradise PD and Final Space.
The former was pretty much entirely garbage, just crude humour and really forced jokes. A little bit like Mister Pickles in tone, but less surreal and without the satisfying amounts of gore or any of the charm. I imagine it would be amusing enough whilst really stoned, but otherwise it's not really worth sitting through all the stupid for the occasional funny moment.

Final Space, though, is actually wonderful. Didn't know what to make of it at first, one of the main characters could definitely be a bit grating and hyperactive, but it grew on me really quickly. It gives me some serious Ratchet and Clank vibes, with bizarre aliens, heaps of robots getting blown away in shootouts, high-tech gadgets a-plenty and of course a lot of comedy.
It's kind of like a slightly more grown-up Ratchet and Clank, really, but without trying to be adult and winding up lame and edgy.
It's a tonne of fun. I recommend it.
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Post by: Folly on November 24, 2018, 02:37:20 pm
I noticed on Thanksgiving that the reboot of Mystery Science Theatre 3000 finally arrived!
Then, after some cursory research, I realized that the rebooted MST3K actually arrived last year and I completely missed it. What arrived a few days ago was the second season of the reboot. So now I have some catching up to do.
I'm a couple of episodes in so far, and it's pretty much exactly what I expected; terrible movies somehow made bearable and even enjoyable thanks to witty commentary.
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Post by: Folly on December 16, 2018, 02:46:00 pm
Travelers season 3 just arrived!
Now on Netflix, the entire season appeared all at once, so I'm looking forward to binging~
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Post by: Yoink on December 16, 2018, 03:00:04 pm
I should really cave and watch Mystery Science Theatre 3000 sometime, though I'm always turned off by the idea of watching someone else watch hilaribad movies rather than watching them myself with friends, which is already hysterically fun. 
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Post by: Enemy post on December 16, 2018, 03:42:11 pm
Why don't you watch it with some friends? Then you can have both.

Also, I'd strongly recommend the Final Sacrifice episode. In my opinion, it's the best of the series.
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Post by: Biowraith on December 24, 2018, 06:38:40 am
Just finished season 2 of Patriot.  It was pretty good.  Maybe even double great.

Before that, apparently taking a page from Folly's book, I binged season 3 of Travelers.  I'm not sure how I feel about the ending (David & Marcy >:() - seems like the ending of a show that thinks it probably isn't getting another season.
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Post by: simpleyuji on December 24, 2018, 08:01:06 pm
Watching Terrace House on Netflix. Its basically Japan's version of the reality tv show big brother. No obnoxious personalities, no sex, no crazy dramas and intense shouting. Basically, the opposite of what you would expect from the western reality tv. It find it to be really good because of how fresh the interactions are and just learning about how japanese people deal with every day issues like dating, friendship, and life goals.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on December 25, 2018, 07:56:43 am
Watching Terrace House on Netflix. Its basically Japan's version of the reality tv show big brother. No obnoxious personalities, no sex, no crazy dramas and intense shouting. Basically, the opposite of what you would expect from the western reality tv. It find it to be really good because of how fresh the interactions are and just learning about how japanese people deal with every day issues like dating, friendship, and life goals.
Absolutely wholesome

In the UK the reality TV shows tend to fall into the category you listed or else just involve stressing out a room of trapped E-list celebrities until they start abusing one another
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Post by: Folly on December 27, 2018, 10:13:20 pm
I also just finished Travelers Season 3.

If this is the finale, I consider it a satisfying conclusion to a good final season. They left an opening for the show to continue, but all of the previous arcs were given conclusions in one form or another. And the season had several big exciting twists, which made it a fun ride to the very end.
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Post by: Biowraith on December 28, 2018, 06:03:24 am
I definitely enjoyed the season (& show) overall, I'm just a bit wary of a 'reset' type ending if it's going to continue for a 4th season.  I suppose it's worked out ok in other shows though.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on January 17, 2019, 11:05:00 pm
Just watched Star Trek: Discovery S2E1

It's... better. I am hopeful that this season is going to have a better trajectory than the last (though the last did have a few nice moments).

Also relevantly, I started watching Deep Space 9 and I can immediately see why it's awesome--also it's nice to see a captain who is an actual human, dad, and does not have an "I am starfleet" attitude. Sisko is lit. The rest of the cast is also great.
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Post by: Folly on January 19, 2019, 02:20:31 am
Just finished Future Man season 2.

This is honestly one of the best plots I've seen in a show that is also genuinely funny. Season 2 was more focused compared to Season 1, with less time travel shenanigans. Several surprising twists too.
They left the door open for a Season 3, but resolved the main story arc from Season 2. So I'm very much hoping for a renewal, but if it doesn't happen that's okay too.
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Post by: Jopax on January 19, 2019, 04:19:47 am
Shit, season 2 is out already? I'm missing so much stuff these days.

Speaking of missing stuff, True Detective season 3 started last week, only caught it last night. Pretty good, tho it feels a bit like they're apologizing for the second season and going "See guys, it's got supernatural spoopy shit and a wierd detective with issues". Which could be considered the schtik of the show but what the fuck was season 2 then?
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Post by: Yoink on January 19, 2019, 04:32:13 am
The outcry about season 2 was fucking dumb.
The premise of the show was an anthology series with vastly different, probably unconnected stories involving detectives taking place each season.

There was some dopey shit later on in s2, but on the whole it lived up to expectations. People disliking it because it wasn't the same as the first season is a real peeve of mine. :-\
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on January 19, 2019, 04:48:23 am
S3 is hitting hard so far. Might be because I’m dealing with Alzheimer’s-burdened grandparents myself that the whole concept is so compelling. Ali’s performance is spectacular, especially considering how he’s sorta playing himself three times over. I don’t think supernatural spookiness is actually going to play a large part here - it’s just them saying ’see, it’s like S1 again!’ - but the atmosphere is nicely bleak and unsettling nevertheless.

I have suspicions who might’ve done with already, so they’ve done a nice job setting up the rest of the season.
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Post by: Kagus on January 19, 2019, 05:52:29 am
Haven't started watching the new season yet, but I'm eager to get into it. Think we might need to renew our HBO subscription again.

I also didn't have a problem with season 2... I mean, sure, seeing Vince Vaughn in a more "serious" role was pretty weird/funny, but I didn't really have a problem with that and I even took the extremely unhappy ending in stride.

It's not the first season, of course it isn't... But I don't think it's bad. Not really sure where that's coming from. GF is another one who went around telling folks to avoid watching season 2 at all, but I feel it was still very much worth my time for the experience.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 19, 2019, 07:26:29 am
S1 was a tightly focused and character driven pseudo-noir. The smart writing is what elevated it above the regular TV fare. By smart I don't mean those bits when Mcconaughey would wax philosophical, but that it felt like the script was thought over many times, and any potentially spurious parts were cut, leaving a sleek product. S2 felt like a patchwork of cool and bleak parts that didn't quite gel together or go anywhere. It felt rambling and unfocused.
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Post by: Jopax on January 19, 2019, 07:51:16 am
To be fair, I didn't think S2 was all that bad, it was a mess for the most part, but it had it's good parts. It certainly didn't live up to the standard that S1 set.

And I'm not saying they have to do the same thing every time, and S2 wasn't bad because it was different, but right now it seems like they're cargo culting themselves if that makes sense. Taking some iconic things from the first season that a lot of people say they loved (even though it wasn't the only stuff that made it great) and repeating it because it worked then. The whole interview and several time periods thing for example, if it was present in S2 then you could say that it's a sort of hallmark of the series, the way it tells its stories, however different they might be, something that makes you go "That's a True Detective thing". But they haven't, and that was fine, different approaches for different stories and everything, but then they go back to using the same thing again because that's what folks remember the first season for?

Dunno, hard to completely put this into words, I'm just having a wierd feeling about the whole thing (mainly that they got lucky the first time and are now scrambling to repeat the success without knowing why exactly it was successful).
Still, one of the better shows out there right now, despite all that and I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the season, just got some mixed feelings lurking about.
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Post by: heatwave on January 24, 2019, 05:25:57 am
Just started watching the Cinemax show The Knick. I haven’t even finished the first episode yet, but it’s already got me hooked.
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Post by: Yoink on January 24, 2019, 07:50:04 am
@Jopax: yeah, apparently due to the (in my opinion unwarranted) poor reception of the second season, the network brought in extra writers to meddle with the main dude's ideas and, presumably, bring it more in line with what they thought made s1 a hit. :(
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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 24, 2019, 09:13:28 am
Just started watching the Cinemax show The Knick. I haven’t even finished the first episode yet, but it’s already got me hooked.
It's great. Maybe a bit too clean-looking even when it's showing grime. But then again it's got Clive Owen, and I'd watch him in anything.
The man has a resting fuck-off face, and somehow that makes everything better.
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Post by: nenjin on January 24, 2019, 11:09:34 am
S1 was a tightly focused and character driven pseudo-noir. The smart writing is what elevated it above the regular TV fare. By smart I don't mean those bits when Mcconaughey would wax philosophical, but that it felt like the script was thought over many times, and any potentially spurious parts were cut, leaving a sleek product. S2 felt like a patchwork of cool and bleak parts that didn't quite gel together or go anywhere. It felt rambling and unfocused.

^

Season 2 was balls. It was an entire season of our protagonists being terrible people, and a straight up mystery plot that someone went "this isn't as creepy and weird as Season 1, quick, grab some weird looking masks!"

I didn't enjoy hardly anything out of Season 2. It was a disappointment to me the same way Mulholland Drive was a disappointment. After years of watching creepy weird David Lynch stuff, MD was so normal by comparison I found I couldn't pay attention. S2 of TD wasn't that per se, but it had the same issue. It was mundane and boring, and the only interesting things in it were sad, unlikable characters being sad and unlikable. Collin Farrel's character was just pathetic throughout. And in general it just felt tawdry and bleak because it didn't actually know what it wanted to be, so it went with some "character-focused" schlock. S2 was way more about the characters than the crime, and neither were particularly interesting.

S3 already sounds better but I'm going to to give it some time to accrue some episodes so I can binge on it.
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Post by: Yoink on January 24, 2019, 03:26:22 pm
Sure, the actual crime in S2 was stupid as shit from what I remember (yeah, masks and some edgy kids planning to kill someone involved in some conspiracy, I dunno it seemed kinda nonsensical), but can you really not see any merit in what you call character focused schlock?
I found the characters and the background politics they had to deal with quite entertaining, personally, as was the setting.
Then again I usually prefer flawed characters - which is part of why I liked Season 1, also, but maybe they went too far in s2 to appeal to the average palate. *shrug*
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Post by: Folly on January 27, 2019, 10:57:11 am
The Magicians is back for Season 4!

I really wish I had time to go back and re-watch this from the beginning, because there is just so much going on and it's all sooo good! But as it is, I'm diving straight into season 4, and it's off to a strong start. Looking forward to more!


Just finished Outlander Season 4.

This was an incredible roller-coaster ride of a season, and imo the best drama to come out of this show so far. Jamie and Claire are trouble magnets, and Brianna brings the worst of both worlds! I honestly have no idea where Season 5 is going to go from here, but I can't wait to find out.
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Post by: nenjin on January 27, 2019, 06:40:51 pm
Quote
but can you really not see any merit in what you call character focused schlock?

Sure, but not the way it was handled in S2. In S1 there was that kind of "characters are people and make mistakes too" moments. But they were part of the story, instead of what felt like the bulk of the effort. In S1 you're humming along, this cool plot, some decent chemistry between the two detectives and then WHAM, that stuff happens. It gave it impact.

S2 came across as "Well, S1 was entertainingly unpleasant. How can we top of that? What if all three of our characters are complete fuckups with horrible backstories, and half the show is given over to their awkward and unpleasant sex lives and hangups. (And Collin Farrel as the saddest man on Earth.)"

Increasingly I don't find entire shows built around the concept of misery as entertaining. And S2 was miserable pretty much from top to bottom. The fact that there's talented actors doesn't change  that I wanted a shower after every episode. I don't find a main character grappling with being a gay cop and being filled with self-loathing and baggage any more interesting than a main character having angry hate sex with random guys because of her daddy issues. Or Collin Farrel being two seconds away from killing someone over rape at any moment. After a while you're like "This is neither fun nor interesting. It's just lurid and unpleasant schlock, with an artistic veneer because we have HBO money and real actors." I suppose if there'd actually been a good crime or mystery as the counterpoint to all this muck, something that maybe fed in to or set up all the high emotion....but the crime seemed like an afterthought. I started to dread when people would strip off their crime scene gloves because it meant they were about to be "off the clock" and we were about to be subjected to more garbo. In the absence of a crime that was interesting, the whole show acted like these three characters were what we were supposed to be paying attention to. And you could have gotten rid of any one of the three detectives and, at least to my recollection, it wouldn't have impacted the show in any real way.

Maybe to put it more succinctly, in S1 the detectives and their dysfunction were there to support the story of the crime and the killer, to make it more interesting. In S2, the crime was there to support the dysfunction of the characters, to give them a break from allllll the shit they're about to just "do their jobs." The crime in S2 did not in any way make the detectives and their stories more interesting, whereas the reverse is true in S1.
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Post by: Folly on January 28, 2019, 11:50:26 am
This is Youtube rather than TV, but I just started watching Everglow's Kingdom Hearts Timeline (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhcSrKyqhfh5USKgcHjwTjeVbngw7Y0pr), in preparation for KH3 launch tomorrow.

122 episodes...yeah, I probably shouldn't have waited until the last day to start this one...
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Post by: Folly on February 18, 2019, 01:46:47 am
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver is back for season 6!

Tonight's episode was focused on Brexit. It sounds like they are really giving the US some competition in the stupid politics department right now.
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Post by: nenjin on February 20, 2019, 12:43:17 am
Started True Detective Season 3. Just finished Episode 2.

I likey. It feels very slow, the build and the tension is there. Subtle little wrongnesses that are easy to miss. There's also a lot of just good classic procedural cop stuff happening, asking questions, putting two and two together. It feels like a satisfying mystery even without the otherness in the background.

I find the characters interesting, people I actually want to know more about. (Although man seeing Stephen Dorff is a trip.) I don't quite know if I'm enjoying the fractured time thing, it does seem to draw things out. But I'm still waiting for more to show itself.
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Post by: Jopax on March 22, 2019, 07:06:25 am
So I finally caught up and binged the second season of GLOW. I'd say it's as good as the first season but for other reasons. It isn't as focused as before (think it's mainly because the first one is kind of the origin story so the big clear endgoal is getting the show off the ground, now that that's gone different and not as clear issues pop up) but some of the meandering nicely fills up some side character storylines. Think it could've used an episode or two extra in certain places but it's pretty good as is.

Also watching Allison Brie haming it the fuck up and chewing the scenery with her russian accent (while clearly enjoying the shit out of it) never gets old :D
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Post by: Levi on March 22, 2019, 10:53:15 am
I've been watching Titans on netflix, mostly because I want to watch Doom Patrol and my roommate won't watch it until after we've seen Titans. 

Its weird watching because I kinda hate what they've done to all the characters and they keep trying to pump the edge up to 11, but at the same time each episode has had some pretty cool superhero stuff like Hawk & Dove, doom patrol and other superheroes/characters I enjoy. 

If I pretend Robin isn't Robin and Starfire isn't Starfire its not too bad so far.
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Post by: nenjin on March 22, 2019, 11:03:20 am
Finished True Detective S3.

Season 3 was good. The characters were interesting. However it fell short of S1 because, honestly, the majority of S3 was about people rather than the crime. It's more an exploration of a character through time, and how the case affected his life and his mind.

Which was good because the actors were good. But I did get the feeling, somewhere in the middle of the season, that it was kind of wasting my time and stretching things out so they could have X episodes. The big reveal felt like kind of an anti-climax:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think TD knows how to play its fans. They set up all this weird shit knowing fans will read in to it, and then at least in this season come up with a fairly normal explanation for it all.

It was effective but if they do this again for another season, I may check out. There didn't feel like much of a pay off in S3, but again, it was very much a character-focused narrative and so the character arc was way more important to the show than the nuts and bolts of the crime.

Whatever though, it was a more enjoyable watch than S2 by leaps and bounds.

I suppose I'd rank all the seasons this way: S1, S3, S2.  S1 still wins because it had the right blend of: characters you find interesting and care about, a mysterious crime and a surreal edge that kept you guessing exactly what you were dealing with.

It might also be an issue than neither S2 or S3 really have an antagonist. In S1 you see some things from the perspective of the antagonist and that kept you at least somewhat rooted in the actual murder mystery. That's absent in S2 and S3, which really puts all your focus on the detectives and they have to carry water for the whole show. I know the whole gist of the series is that each season is supposed to be different from the others....but so far nothing has been as effective as their first run at it.

I'll be interested to see what they try next.
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Post by: Folly on March 28, 2019, 09:54:38 am
Just finished binging the first season of Deadly Class.

Some interesting plot twists in there, but also a lot of predictable and cliche dreck. Every character has a tragic backstory that should have hardened them against the harsh realities of life, and yet they're all giant pussies who are afraid to kill anyone, despite attending a secret school for assassins. This one would be difficult for me to recommend, especially with a poorly-done cliffhanger and no promise of a season 2.
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Post by: Iduno on March 28, 2019, 02:50:31 pm
I just caught up to current on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and moved on to The Mick. I made a good choice. Kaitlin Olson is great, and so are the other stars (except maybe Chip, who is a bit one-dimensional).

Also, catching up on The Expanse. Trying to avoid reading spoilers, which is difficult.
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Post by: Biowraith on March 29, 2019, 02:43:07 pm
Just finished season 2 of The OA. 

The first season was a bit odd - I spent the first couple episodes just wondering what kind of show I was watching.  While it did get a little embarrassingly earnest with the whole new age spirituality and the power of interpretive dance thing at times (especially that final episode), overall I enjoyed it and thought it was very well done.

Second season abandons any (relative) restraint or ambiguity about the sci-fi/supernatural elements and just goes all out bananas.  I loved it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on April 05, 2019, 01:29:45 pm
The Tick and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina each just got their entire second seasons. I'm planning to binge each in that order.

Also, Cloak and Dagger season 2 started airing weekly episodes last night.
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Post by: Levi on April 05, 2019, 01:31:10 pm
Oh dang!  I didn't realize it was time for more Tick.  I loved the first season.  :D

Too bad I need to burn through Doom Patrol first, which has also been pretty fun.
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Post by: Funk on April 05, 2019, 09:11:01 pm
Still game. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b006qgl8/still-game)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Kagus on April 06, 2019, 04:43:03 am
Swedish/Danish crime series called "The Bridge" (Broen). Some fun supergenius serial murderer stuff in the first season, second season is about an ecoterrorist cell, but more importantly the show is about how the officers heading the investigation interact with each other. Specifically it's about how the female lead interacts with anyone and anything, because she's a fucking brilliant character and the actress does a fantastic job of portraying her.

The character isn't particularly well socially adjusted, and I'd have to hazard as most likely being on the spectrum somewhere. This lends itself to a great deal of unintentional sass as she either awkwardly fumbles due to being extremely uncomfortable in social settings, or she just bulldozes straight through with zero awareness of the unspoken rules and norms.
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Post by: scriver on April 06, 2019, 07:52:28 am
I hate it
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Post by: Yoink on April 07, 2019, 05:11:26 am
Just finished binging the new third season of Santa Clarita Diet. Damn, this show fills me with so much love.
It's honestly like a high. A television high. Probably the two greatest television (or motion picture in general) couples right there. The whole cast has phenomenal chemistry. Highly recommended, it's gotta be one of my favourite shows!   
That was wonderful. A new season next year is all but confirmed, too. Maybe I'll just re-watch the whole dang thing.
Or maybe I should see if there's a new season of Final Space out yet...

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Post by: Folly on April 10, 2019, 10:31:33 pm
Finished The Tick and Sabrina, second seasons.

The Tick was somewhat disappointing. Most of the season was focused on a very minor villain. The secondary story arc served only to set up the story for the next season, and even that wasn't terribly compelling.
I'm still a fan of this show, but they really need to up their game if they get renewed for more.

Sabrina was pretty much the polar opposite. Nonstop plot twists and major story advancement from beginning to end. Early on it started to seem like they were going to way of Supergirl with heavyhanded SJW propaganda...but then they ended up striking a healthy balance, touching on transgender strife and misogyny woes just long enough to make their point and then moving on to the battle between Sabrina and the Dark Lord. Season 2 was a major step up from Season 1, which was itself quite decent.
I'm reading that this show has already been renewed for a third and fourth season, and I look forward to seeing where things go from here.
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Post by: Yoink on April 16, 2019, 10:48:16 pm
Just finished watching Netflix's Maniac.
It was fascinating. What a ride. I'm not sure if I understood it fully but it certainly made me feel things. A variety of them.
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Post by: Folly on April 18, 2019, 12:14:10 am
I just finished watching The Magicians season 4 finale.

Very strong season, for a great show. There was drama, there was action, there were unexpected twists, and of course lots of complex hand gestures.

The ending felt like a perfect series finale. Then I found out that Season 5 has already been approved. I'm somewhat skeptical of how they will continue after the events of this finale...but hopefully it will work out and continue to be an amazing show.
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Post by: Iduno on April 22, 2019, 09:28:00 pm
I finally got around to starting The Magicians. I know it was on right before another TV show I used to watch, so I know how the first or second season ends. To be fair, knowing there are additional seasons almost counts as a spoiler for the "twist" they tried.

Also, I'm constantly distracted that one character looks like Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde.
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Post by: Iduno on April 26, 2019, 11:55:42 am
I finally got around to starting The Magicians. I know it was on right before another TV show I used to watch, so I know how the first or second season ends. To be fair, knowing there are additional seasons almost counts as a spoiler for the "twist" they tried.

Also, I'm constantly distracted that one character looks like Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde.

So, I got to Season 1, Episode 9.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Folly on April 26, 2019, 01:10:19 pm
So, I got to Season 1, Episode 9.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Without spoiling too much...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


In other TV news, Supernatural season 14 just ended with yet another apocalyptic finale.
God creates a godkiller gun and hands it to the Winchester boys. What could possibly go wrong?
Murder-clowns, bloody mary's, wailing banshees and zombie hordes, that's what.
Although the inevitable resolution next season seems way too obvious...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Iduno on May 06, 2019, 03:18:15 pm
So, I got to Season 1, Episode 9.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Without spoiling too much...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


In other TV news, Supernatural season 14 just ended with yet another apocalyptic finale.
God creates a godkiller gun and hands it to the Winchester boys. What could possibly go wrong?
Murder-clowns, bloody mary's, wailing banshees and zombie hordes, that's what.
Although the inevitable resolution next season seems way too obvious...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The writers order a few more sharks, and more water skis? Also, probably make 1 more episode next season that takes the show as seriously as it deserves (0%).

Almost finished with nerd-ass soap opera The Magicians Season 1.

Thank you Netflix for getting me to watch entertainingly trash tv. It helped me have low enough expectations to make it through the original The Italian Job. I know that reads as sarcasm, but I actually mean it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Kagus on May 06, 2019, 03:41:10 pm
I watched a little bit of Supernatural back in the day, and there were actually quite a few things I liked... But then I kinda feel like things went way too deep into the angels and demons shtick, and I wasn't as interested in all of that... I'm a Creature Feature man, dammit! I don't want no metaplot!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on May 07, 2019, 07:45:26 am
I watched a little bit of Supernatural back in the day, and there were actually quite a few things I liked... But then I kinda feel like things went way too deep into the angels and demons shtick, and I wasn't as interested in all of that... I'm a Creature Feature man, dammit! I don't want no metaplot!

Agreed. And ~9 Seasons later they're still going, so someone's still watching.


Also, does anyone have any thoughts on Netflix's "Tuca and Birdie" or "I think you should leave"? I've watched the first episode of each and I'm not sure yet on either.
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on May 10, 2019, 02:35:01 pm
Loving What We Do In the Shadows right now. I was disappointed by the change of cast from the movie at first, but the show's definitely won me over at this point. Episodes 6 and 7 particularly had me grinning throughout. And damn, there's no getting that intro song out of my head. You're dead, you're dead, you're dead...
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on May 11, 2019, 12:38:21 am
I'm watching Brooklyn Nine Nine. At first I thought it was some silly Parks and Rec-type bullshit, but now, gods I love this show.
It's at the point where you feel as though the characters are old friends who you love, hate, or love to hate but it is yet to become even slightly formulaic.
Not that I watch many "cop shows". For all I know it is formulaic by their standards. Dunno.


Loving What We Do In the Shadows right now. I was disappointed by the change of cast from the movie
What?!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on May 11, 2019, 07:51:43 pm
Watched the first episode of Chernobyl on HBO Go.

Really enjoyed it. I'm not much for disaster porn but I loved Stalker and have always been entranced by nuclear accidents. I guess it's just how scary nuclear power and radiation poisoning can be. The invisible killer. How completely unstoppable it is as a force of nature once it slips human control. The first episode, set right as the reactor explodes, is about as grim as you'd think. The set pieces are great. My only gripe so far is that EVERYONE is a British actor. Ugh. I'd prefer people speaking English with Russian accents.

Got me so hyped I went out and started redownloading the Stalker games.
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Post by: itisnotlogical on May 12, 2019, 01:07:28 am
The drop in quality of King of the Hill coincides very neatly with when the episode descriptions on Hulu start listing the guest voice actors.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on May 12, 2019, 07:54:49 am
Watched the first episode of Chernobyl on HBO Go.

Really enjoyed it. I'm not much for disaster porn but I loved Stalker and have always been entranced by nuclear accidents. I guess it's just how scary nuclear power and radiation poisoning can be. The invisible killer. How completely unstoppable it is as a force of nature once it slips human control. The first episode, set right as the reactor explodes, is about as grim as you'd think. The set pieces are great. My only gripe so far is that EVERYONE is a British actor. Ugh. I'd prefer people speaking English with Russian accents.

Got me so hyped I went out and started redownloading the Stalker games.

At least one is Swedish
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on May 12, 2019, 01:28:51 pm
Skellan Skarsgard transcends nationalities. Also accents.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: brewer bob on May 12, 2019, 01:58:36 pm
Haven't really watched anything of late, except that I began rewatching Critical Role Campaign 1 a while ago.

Have to admit that I enjoy this much, much more than the ongoing second campaign. The first campaign has more of a chaotic "playing RPGs with your friends" feel to it, while the second one is too much a "proper" show for my taste (though, I do enjoy it, too).
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Post by: Iduno on May 12, 2019, 06:49:15 pm
Haven't really watched anything of late, except that I began rewatching Critical Role Campaign 1 a while ago.

Have to admit that I enjoy this much, much more than the ongoing second campaign. The first campaign has more of a chaotic "playing RPGs with your friends" feel to it, while the second one is too much a "proper" show for my taste (though, I do enjoy it, too).

Yeah, having actors/improvisers play RPGs takes something away from it. Then again, I prefer heist games, so people coming up with a plan c on the fly that works better than it should is my thing.
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Post by: scriver on May 13, 2019, 12:07:05 am
*Scanlon shits in the temple and casts scry on the shit*
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Post by: brewer bob on May 13, 2019, 05:07:56 am
*Scanlon shits in the temple and casts scry on the shit*

I can only imagine what the DM was thinking when Scanlan decided to do the shit scrying thing.
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Post by: Iduno on May 13, 2019, 11:52:46 am
His character doesn't know Corpomancy! (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Copromancy)
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Post by: brewer bob on May 13, 2019, 02:11:54 pm
His character doesn't know Corpomancy! (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Copromancy)
So, are the practitioners of this art called copromancers?
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Post by: scriver on May 13, 2019, 03:39:11 pm
Brings a whole new level to Corpus Disease
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Post by: Folly on May 21, 2019, 09:43:01 pm
Just finished watching The Umbrella Academy, season 1.
This is a smart and dramatic show about a dysfunctional family of superpowers who struggle to save the world while simultaneously dealing with their own messed up lives. Definitely one I'd recommend.
Fair warning, first season ends in a cliffhanger. But season 2 has already been approved, so that's something to look forward to!
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Post by: Folly on May 25, 2019, 01:00:10 am
Just finished watching Netflix's Maniac.
It was fascinating. What a ride. I'm not sure if I understood it fully but it certainly made me feel things. A variety of them.

Just finished this. There were definitely interesting parts...but also a lot of parts that just didn't do it for me. Overall I give it a B-.
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Post by: itisnotlogical on May 25, 2019, 04:57:57 am
Everybody Hates Chris. Sitcom show loosely based on Chris Rock's childhood, with Terry Crews as the dad of the house and narration by Chris Rock himself.

It's not amazing, but it's good enough and it has a weirdly addictive quality. There's about four gags that they use in every single episode though, which gets tiring.
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Post by: Reelya on May 27, 2019, 11:30:28 am
There's about four gags that they use in every single episode though, which gets tiring.

Those types of running jokes might have worked better if you were watching it weekly rather than streaming episodes back to back. That probably goes for a lot of shows written before the advent of streaming.
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on May 28, 2019, 05:22:48 am
Started watching Doom Patrol expecting to get bored pretty quickly due to general superhero overload, but it turned out to be pretty fun. Fairly compelling characters, a lot of absurdism and quite good performances won me over. It's like a grittier Legends of Tomorrow, I guess, which I also continue to watch for its nice character dynamics and complete unwillingness to take itself seriously. Also reminds me of the Dirk Gently show, which was also good fun.
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Post by: Iduno on May 28, 2019, 09:05:18 am
The Magicians has kind of a lot of (implied) fucking. It has an especially lot of fucking for a channel that won't allow nudity, or the word fuck. And those two being the least child-friendly (or whomever) portions of the show.

Also, one episode with a magic bank heist.

Overall, pretty good, despite the thoroughly unpleasant subject matter about half the time.
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Post by: Levi on May 28, 2019, 10:15:52 am
Started watching Doom Patrol expecting to get bored pretty quickly due to general superhero overload, but it turned out to be pretty fun. Fairly compelling characters, a lot of absurdism and quite good performances won me over. It's like a grittier Legends of Tomorrow, I guess, which I also continue to watch for its nice character dynamics and complete unwillingness to take itself seriously. Also reminds me of the Dirk Gently show, which was also good fun.

I just finished Doom Patrol the other day, I enjoyed the hell out of it.  The villian is so much fun.
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Post by: Folly on June 04, 2019, 07:05:25 am
I just finished watching Good Omens.
The interaction between the angels was amusing, and the music was good. The rest of the characters were tedious and the arc resolutions at the end disappointing.
Overall it's still quite watchable...but nothing special.
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Post by: nenjin on June 04, 2019, 09:26:39 am
Finished Chernobyl.

Great little miniseries. Even though you basically know what happened by the final episode, the trial-based nature of the reveal, the "as it happened" scenes of the guys on the ground, the visual of the actual reactor exploding, all the high drama in the control room....made for a pretty intense episode. I enjoyed it enough I think I might watch all the way through again this weekend.
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Post by: Iduno on June 04, 2019, 01:37:06 pm
Finished Chernobyl.

Great little miniseries. Even though you basically know what happened by the final episode,

Why, what happened?
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Post by: Eschar on June 04, 2019, 02:05:51 pm
Finished Chernobyl.

Great little miniseries. Even though you basically know what happened by the final episode,

Why, what happened?

They were actually dead the whole time.

Unlike in Lost. *grumbles at people who paid no attention to the finale*
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Post by: nenjin on June 04, 2019, 02:31:57 pm
Finished Chernobyl.

Great little miniseries. Even though you basically know what happened by the final episode,

Why, what happened?

I know you're being factious, but really in the final episode they show you just how much of an irresponsible douche the main reactor controller was on the night of the event. The show starts right after the explosion and it's unclear who was actually responsible for what. By the final episode they show that the lower-level grunt operators were taking orders from a grossly irresponsible manager....and that was compounded by the Russian's cost-effective "shut it all down" method which, when everything was going to shit because of improper procedure, caused the reactor to explode.

Basically, the Chernobyl power plant was well on its way to being an actual nuclear bomb due to gross mismanagement, and when they hit the shutdown switch to stop the reaction, it caused the reactor to explode because of the flawed soviet design and the stress the reactor was already under. Not as bad as an actual nuclear explosion, but still the worst nuclear reactor accident in human history.

If you've got any interest in nuclear catastrophes or understanding how reactors work, the show is a great watch. I feel like I learned a lot while also being entertained / horrified.

And to HBO's credit, in the epilogue of the final episode they specifically note where they combined dozens of nuclear scientists in to a single character for the sake of the story. That was my one gripe about the historical accuracy of the show and I'm glad they made it a point to note where they did things for the sake of television.

One thing that I never did understand....is why the control rods were tipped in graphite. If graphite in a Russian reactor causes an increase in reactivity, why did they tip the control rods (which slow down the reaction) in a thing that increases the reaction? So that when the control rods are only partially lowered there's still graphite at the head to maintain reactivity? I dunno.

Honestly inserting the control rods which caused the reactor to explode due to the graphite tips actually prevented the reactor from going critical. It stil blew up but it's the reason the Exclusion Zone today still looks like a forest today instead of a blasted wasteland. So I guess it was the better outcome.
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Post by: Iduno on June 04, 2019, 03:26:18 pm
One thing that I never did understand....is why the control rods were tipped in graphite. If graphite in a Russian reactor causes an increase in reactivity, why did they tip the control rods (which slow down the reaction) in a thing that increases the reaction? So that when the control rods are only partially lowered there's still graphite at the head to maintain reactivity? I dunno.

Honestly inserting the control rods which caused the reactor to explode due to the graphite tips actually prevented the reactor from going critical. It still blew up but it's the reason the Exclusion Zone today still looks like a forest today instead of a blasted wasteland. So I guess it was the better outcome.

I remember hearing they were doing (unsanctioned?) experiments to increase output or something.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on June 06, 2019, 01:04:30 am
So Good Omens was amazing.

RIP Terry Pratchett. All hail Neil Gaiman.

I ship Crawley + Aziraphale so hard.
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Post by: Rose on June 12, 2019, 10:30:11 am
Nah, they're "Best Friends"

:P
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Post by: Reelya on June 14, 2019, 02:24:09 pm
I know you're being factious, but really in the final episode they show you just how much of an irresponsible douche the main reactor controller was on the night of the event. The show starts right after the explosion and it's unclear who was actually responsible for what. By the final episode they show that the lower-level grunt operators were taking orders from a grossly irresponsible manager....

A number of sources say this aspect was one of the heavily dramatized parts of the show. They needed heroes and villains to make better TV. I wouldn't go making assumptions about real individuals based on a fictional TV show.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48580177
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The roles of three key personalities lie at the heart of the story: Plant director Viktor) Bryukhanov, chief engineer Nikolai Fomin and deputy chief engineer Anatoly Dyatlov. And Oleksiy Breus sees their portrayal as "not a fiction, but a blatant lie".

"Their characters are distorted and misrepresented, as if they were villains. They were nothing like that."

https://www.9news.com.au/world/chernobyl-hbo-chernobyl-hbo-disaster-tv-series-russia-radiation-death-toll-true/8ebcc15c-2b48-401d-ba53-844ea4a3346f
A nuclear expert (who was involved in the clean up at Fukushima and also at Chernobyl in 1986) blasts the show for a whole range of scientific innaccuracies but also for how the depict the soviet response to the disaster. A lot of the claimed things just didn't happen.

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Leukemia expert Robert Gale, from Los Angeles, went to the former Soviet Union help after the 1986 disaster.
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He said the unborn baby of Jessie Buckleys’s character Lyudmilla Ignatenko, could not have absorbed radiation from its dying father as is claimed.
Scientist Ulana Khomyuk, played by Emily Watson, is wrong in the show, when she declares; “The radiation would have killed the mother but the baby absorbed it instead”.
“There is the dangerous representation that, because one of the victims was radioactive, his pregnant wife endangered her unborn child by entering his hospital room,” he wrote.
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Gale, who was also called to help in Japan after the Fukushima nuclear disaster, says he also has concerns about the portrayal of Soviet authorities’ reluctance to ask for outside help after the blast. He said he was asked to travel right away with three colleagues, with an Israeli medic also allowed to go - despite the two countries having no diplomatic links.

Yeah, so it's not a substitute for watching a documentary.
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Post by: Iduno on June 14, 2019, 03:19:47 pm
I've been watching the first season of cowgirl shoots people in the face Wynonna Earp.

Apparently, the Earp family is cursed to be haunted each generation by everyone Wyatt Earp killed. Only his gun can kill the revenants (superhuman demon people), and send them back to Hell until the next generation turns 23. Also, the authorities don't want everyone to know, because that would cause a panic.

So it's like Supernatural was for the first few seasons, except it's a 200-year-old cowboy criminal of the week instead of werewolves and lamias.
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Post by: Iduno on June 21, 2019, 03:16:35 pm
Related to this thread, anyway.

A group of unsurprisingly misinformed geniuses decided Amazon's Good Omens (based on Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman's book) is blasphemous, so they created a petition that demanded Netflix remove it from their service. That's how I found out it existed. I don't have/want/like Amazon, so now I need to find a way to watch it.

Also, The Magicians season 4 is less unpleasant to watch than the previous seasons. Mostly because this season's poorly-thought-out PSA episode was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Folly on July 04, 2019, 10:07:42 am
Stranger Things 3 is here!
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Post by: Yoink on July 04, 2019, 11:26:21 am
Do they really keep on getting stranger?!
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Post by: Iduno on July 07, 2019, 08:36:58 pm
Do they really keep on getting stranger?!

I think it's things they stole off a stranger.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on July 10, 2019, 12:34:10 pm
Just finished Stranger Things 3. Personally, I loved it--not scary at all (though none of them have been REALLY scary [1 made a good go at it at least]) but ultimately I think better than Stranger Things 2, and now that the shock of it all has worn off, probably fair to say on par with Season 1.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on July 10, 2019, 03:44:29 pm
Disagree very strongly. I'd call it uninspired, repetitive, and very much in the same league as S2. Which is still binge-watchable, mind you. Just not particularly good.
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Post by: McTraveller on July 13, 2019, 12:23:21 pm
Stranger Things - wife and I discussed it. We think the thing that was most "missing" in season 3 is the mystery. Basically there was no suspense - you could kind of tell what was going to happen from the beginning.  There was also only really a single story thread instead of a couple.  I mean there were a few sub-threads, but nothing like sub-plots.

We also started watching Dexter.  That one is quite enjoyable so far (not even done with season 1 yet).

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Post by: catacombs on July 13, 2019, 09:47:14 pm
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on July 19, 2019, 09:52:51 pm
New Witcher trailer today. I think a lot of people are gonna bash it, and I do get a sense of trying to fill GoT's shoes (which it absolutely SHOULD NOT DO, not the least because GoT was never THAT good), but I have to say I am behind Cavill and am definitely willing to give the show a shot.

EDIT: One of the comments suggested that Cavill should also play Drizzt Do'Urden--honestly, fucking amazing idea.
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Post by: Yoink on July 23, 2019, 05:18:42 am
Today I have plunged back into Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
Just finished season four. Damn, this show is intense. :o
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Post by: Kagus on July 23, 2019, 08:26:35 am
EDIT: One of the comments suggested that Cavill should also play Drizzt Do'Urden--honestly, fucking amazing idea.
Please no. For however good Cavill might be in the role, I really don't think we need a show (or, heavens forbid, movie) about Mary Sue'Urden.

And that's coming from someone who devoured Salvatore books as a kid.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on July 23, 2019, 08:29:50 am
Yes we do. But he should be played by either Biber of Nicolas Cage.
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Post by: catacombs on July 23, 2019, 09:42:28 am
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on July 23, 2019, 10:48:57 am
It does get a bit more serious in later seasons (sometimes unnecessarily so, IMO), but I'm not sure if Yoink meant it like that. Intensely funny, maybe?
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Post by: nenjin on July 23, 2019, 11:14:54 am
TBH I wish the show was going to be "The Adventures of Geralt of Rivia."

The actual overarching plot of the Witcher isn't that interesting to me. Never has been. In W3 when Ciri is in the mix I found myself doing a lot of eyerolling, because it's total Mary Sue land. I'd much rather just watch a season of Geralt roaming the country side killing monsters and beating up assholes. I'll give the first episode a watch though.
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on July 23, 2019, 01:36:20 pm
TBH I wish the show was going to be "The Adventures of Geralt of Rivia."

The actual overarching plot of the Witcher isn't that interesting to me. Never has been. In W3 when Ciri is in the mix I found myself doing a lot of eyerolling, because it's total Mary Sue land. I'd much rather just watch a season of Geralt roaming the country side killing monsters and beating up assholes. I'll give the first episode a watch though.

Huh. I found Geralt and Ciri's relationship one of the best parts of W3. I suppose you could call Ciri a Mary Sue, but that doesn't make their bond any less heartwarming or emotional for me. I generally liked her as a character too, personality-wise. But fair enough, different things for different people. I suppose I have a soft spot for badass fathers with badass daughters being badass and having a happy, functional relationship. Though the show will no doubt cover less than happy and functional moments in it as well. There's plenty of differences between books and games.
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Post by: nenjin on July 23, 2019, 02:48:42 pm
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I suppose I have a soft spot for badass fathers with badass daughters being badass and having a happy, functional relationship.

2014 - 2018 seemed to be the era of Father / Daughter games. Having not read the books, Ciri came as a "who the hell are you and why am I supposed to care" moment to me. Different strokes for different folks but I always found myself annoyed by the Ciri side bits in W3.
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Post by: Yoink on July 23, 2019, 09:20:09 pm
Damn, this show is intense. :o

How so? Granted, I've only seen the first two episodes and thought it was light and funny show.
It is light and funny, for the most part - you still come to care about the characters, though, and when the show does throw out a serious plotline here and there it indeed can get arse-clenchingly intense.
You'll laugh, you'll gasp, you'll cheer, you'll spit your beer.

It doesn't like, force the seriousness down your throat or anything, though. At least not at the point I'm up to so far. It's not like a BoJack Horseman deal where, despite being a brilliant show, it does everything in its power to destroy your mood and leave you feeling all shell-shocked and existential afterwards.
No, on the whole this is definitely fun. But it has its moments.
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Post by: catacombs on July 24, 2019, 09:33:32 am
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Post by: Il Palazzo on July 24, 2019, 03:21:34 pm
Fuck Geralt. Who else is hyped for The Boys? 'Cause I am. Woo-hoo, hyyype!
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on July 24, 2019, 03:40:09 pm
I hated most of the comic (and the author's work in general, to be honest), but man do I want to see some of the scenes depicted. The hijacked plane scene in particular. It's something special.
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Post by: Jopax on July 24, 2019, 04:16:32 pm
I had no idea what it was until I stumbled onto the trailer today. Color me very interested, mostly because the premise is too interesting and fresh in a genre that has gotten so fucking stale over the past decade.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on July 27, 2019, 10:22:55 am
Watched it. Is good, mkay? Pretty damn good.
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Post by: Yoink on July 28, 2019, 04:26:18 am
I'm onto episode three of this dark, bizarre show called Flowers, with Julian Barratt of Mighty Boosh fame. It's... certainly interesting! I think I might cringe myself into an early grave at this rate, though.
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Post by: brewer bob on July 29, 2019, 04:43:36 am
I finally watched the last season of GoT, and dear god, it was way worse than I expected (and I really haven't had any expectations for the last 3-4 seasons of the over-hyped show).
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Post by: Folly on August 01, 2019, 02:02:36 pm
I finished watching The Boys, season 1.

A show about butthurt normies fighting a league of corrupt supers...I've definitely seen this premise before, more than a couple times. But putting aside the lack of originality, it's pretty good. Drama, plot twists, special effects...yeah, I'll come back for season 2.
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Post by: Jopax on August 06, 2019, 12:27:35 pm
Finished Good Omens today. Suprisingly faithful to the book, also shows that you could do Pratchett/Gaiman humor fairly well in such a format, mostly if you decide to opt for a narrator of some sort. Other than that, loved it trough and trough, the casting was damn good and my only complaints are that some of the CGI looked shit (tho I have a feeling it might've been intentional in certain cases) and that the director really had a hard on for extreme close-ups, wether they were warranted or not in some cases.
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Post by: Yoink on August 07, 2019, 09:43:12 pm
I've picked up Ozark from where I left off. Bloody good show.
Also, Flowers was good, turned out to be a lot deeper than I expected. It's a pity they apparently don't plan on making more, but it's worth a watch nonetheless.

Oh, I also watched season 2 of Happy, only to learn afterwards that it was apparently cancelled by SyFy. At least it wasn't a Netflix original, where cancellation is basically a death knell for the IP... I'm gonna miss Santa Clarita Diet.
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Post by: nenjin on August 08, 2019, 11:07:32 am
I finally watched the last season of GoT, and dear god, it was way worse than I expected (and I really haven't had any expectations for the last 3-4 seasons of the over-hyped show).

Now you can head over to the GoT thread to talk about Dune!
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on August 14, 2019, 03:41:42 pm
I decided to give The Boys a shot and ended up binging the whole season. They've improved on the comic in pretty much every way. The humor is less juvenile, the characters are more nuanced, the satire is more pointed, and the whole set-up is more interesting. It gets super fucked up and gross at points, sure, but if you can stomach that it's an excellent watch.
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Post by: McTraveller on August 15, 2019, 10:45:46 am
So the wife and I found Doctor Who series 11 to be just as bad as everyone said it was.  I don't fault the acting, it was fine - the writing was awful.  I felt like the story was centered more around Graham (Graeme?) than the Doctor. He's the only one with a story arc and any kind of tough decision!

The Doctor had no character development at all - she just seemed confused, no connection, everything too haphazard.  Previous Doctors seemed haphazard but really had a plan.  This season was just... responding to situations, not managing them.

I miss Moffat's writing.

Also:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Yoink on August 19, 2019, 10:26:16 am
I wonder if the God-Emperor is an Arrested Development fan?
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Post by: Iduno on August 19, 2019, 02:38:52 pm
I wonder if the God-Emperor is an Arrested Development fan?

Like the guy in the 3,000 shai-halud stillsuit would watch TV. C'mon.
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Post by: Funk on August 28, 2019, 02:33:50 pm
Old school Doctor Who, none of this "the man who never would" crap, he's pure "look he slowing us down so i'll club him to death with a rock".
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Post by: Folly on August 30, 2019, 08:58:00 pm
Just finished watching Another Life, Season 1.

It's got a bit of an Alien vibe, with a crew of blissfully ignorant space-noobs traipsing through space, completely ignorant of the fact that everything in space is eager to kill them in horrific ways. There's also a 'save earth from evil but mysterious aliens' thing going on in the B-story. The sci-fi technology felt a bit inconsistent, with super-advanced stuff in some areas and modern tech in others. But other than that I felt like it was a reasonably well put together show. Constant suspense and drama and mystery throughout, and an ending that wasn't too cliffhangery but did leave a lot to build on in the future.

Season 2 is not yet confirmed, but I'm optimistic.
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Post by: Yoink on September 02, 2019, 10:31:55 pm
I'm watching Dark, a German show from Netflix. Es ist gut.
Gets very confusing though, but not necessarily in a bad way.
Also there's a smattering of classic German thrash metal in the soundtrack, which is naturally a plus. \m/
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 03, 2019, 11:48:21 pm
I'm watching the new Dark Crystal series, and it's really great. The original film was a marvel of puppetry, but plot-wise it was shallow and unsatisfying. This one manages to improve on the visual/technical side even more and turns the world building to eleven, both in a service of a good - if, admittedly, so far, not exceptional - story.
Ironically, while the series owes its existence to the original, it also falters most visibly when it tries to tie in with the plot points from the latter.
Still, it's a fantastic dark fable, unlike anything else out there.
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Post by: Folly on September 06, 2019, 04:32:24 am
I just finished watching season 1 of Carnival Row.

This is by far the best show I've seen in a long time. It honestly feels like the next Game of Thrones, being packed with violence, sex, romance, mystery, and political intrigue. Acting, music, special effects, everything is top-notch. Really an outstanding work.

Minor spoilers for some backstory revealed early in the first episode:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Obviously, I'm recommending this one.
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Post by: itisnotlogical on September 08, 2019, 05:07:38 pm
I started watching Merlin on Netflix. Although it came out in 2008, the cinematography could have easily been from the late 90's or early 2000's. All the obnoxious speedups, quick cuts and fast zooms make it look really dated. The few bits of cheap CGI seen thus far don't help matters.

It's an okay show, but not really something I could get invested in. Makes sense, since it seems to be aimed very specifically at the "young adult" demographic.
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Post by: Jopax on September 12, 2019, 06:00:50 am
Saw the first season of Carnival Row. I like it, it's decent enough, has an interesting world and some characters but it also has some major flaws, mostly in how certain things are written and certain people cast.

Girl playing Vignette is absolutely dreadful, while the actress has those large expressive eyes she simply cannoct act with her face to save her life and most of the show she's either in lifeless stare or some sort of rage modes with nothing inbetween. Similarly the Dahlia actress has the wierdest way of speaking, it might be an intentional quirk of character but to me it felt more like the actress had no idea what sort of accent she should be going for so it ends up all over the damn place.

Bloom was brilliant tho, even tho his initial gruff voice act was a bit odd.

And now some spoiler stuff that bugged me:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

All that said, I'm interested in where they take S2 so there's that.
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Post by: Yoink on September 14, 2019, 04:24:07 am
I watched the first two and a bit episodes of Frontier (don't ask me why, I guess I've been playing a fair bit of Red Dead Redemption 2 lately, plus I saw the trailer which made it look more interesting than I remembered) and wow, it was even worse than I first imagined.
"Dumpster fire" is the quickest way to describe it. A shame, since the setting could have been interesting... why do all historical TV shows tend to be utter garbage? I guess anything approaching realism doesn't make for good ratings. :(
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Post by: Iduno on September 15, 2019, 10:01:23 pm
I've finished the second episode of The Dark Crystal:Age of Resistance. It's great so far.
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Post by: nenjin on September 16, 2019, 03:39:42 pm
I love me some Dark Crystal but after watching some promos, it seems more like a reboot than a sequel. That sound about right?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 16, 2019, 03:42:13 pm
It's a prequel. It's great, too. Far superior to the original.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on September 16, 2019, 03:43:42 pm
It's a prequel. It's great, too. Far superior to the original.

That's a pretty tall claim. Especially with the way things get made today.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 16, 2019, 04:06:40 pm
Have you rewatched the original recently, though? It's very flawed in the story department, so surpassing it is not that hard, really. This one has pretty much the same level of marvellous puppetry, but with sufficient running time to build the world up and tell a tale. It's got solid direction and inventive camera work (both by the guy who made the Transporter films, of all choices).
As one watches it, it's obviously apparent that everyone involved cared a lot about what they were doing and about honouring Henson's legacy. They even hired a few of the old crew.
The 'making of' doc is almost as fun to watch as the series itself. Also, there must have been some serious cash thrown at the project.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on September 16, 2019, 04:55:06 pm
I'll admit I suffer from nostalgia when it compares to modern takes. I don't remember any problems with the original story. Sure it wasn't as detailed as a miniseries but of late I honestly feel that sometimes, less is more. The way stories were told versus how they are told today can amount to a big difference in the same universe. Show vs. tell, all that stuff. I may get around to watching it.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on September 16, 2019, 05:37:54 pm
I'm liking Arrow a lot. Season 1 is basically Batman Begins, except done right
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on September 17, 2019, 01:49:19 am
Scrubs uses so many sound effects I recognize from Daggerfall that it's actually a bit distracting. I've recognized quite a few random spell sounds and the skeleton scream so far.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 20, 2019, 09:02:12 pm
I started watching Unbelievable after reading glowing reviews. I get the noble intent in spotlighting the subject matter, but the execution is so heavy-handed, it's barely on par with CSI-grade police procedurals. How did it get to 96% on RT is bamboozling.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Imic on September 21, 2019, 02:57:23 pm
I’ve been watching Steven Universe recently, after someone I know started watching the episodes out of order while I was in the room, and now I need to know all the missing context. I’ve learned very quickly that everyone has an opinion of this show though, so to avoid debate, I now have to avoid telling people my own opinion. Quite the show.
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Post by: Reelya on September 22, 2019, 04:41:59 am
I'll admit I suffer from nostalgia when it compares to modern takes. I don't remember any problems with the original story. Sure it wasn't as detailed as a miniseries but of late I honestly feel that sometimes, less is more. The way stories were told versus how they are told today can amount to a big difference in the same universe. Show vs. tell, all that stuff. I may get around to watching it.

Note that at the time, most reviews of The Dark Crystal were basically "it's shit, don't watch it". You can find good reviews of it, but those are all 20 years or so after the release. Jim Henson made it and basically went "well I won't be making any more of those" due to the negative response. Then he made Labyrinth, which addressed a lot of the specific criticisms of The Dark Crystal, and they didn't like that one even more. The Dark Crystal at least made money at the box office, but Labyrinth didn't turn a profit. So he listened to the critics then lost money because of it. So at this point Henson's like "fuck this shit. I'm going back to TV".

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/12/17/movies/henson-s-crystal.html
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A lot of obvious effort has gone into this solemn fairy tale, but all of it has been devoted to the complicated technical problems involved in making a film mostly with animated puppets. The screenplay by David Odell, based on a story by Mr. Henson, is without any narrative drive whatever. It's without charm as well as interest.
...
Most surprising is the lack of either humor or wit, especially in the designs for the mythical creatures. More than anything else, they seem inefficient, as if no order of evolution could ever have thrown them up, even in an off millennium.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 22, 2019, 01:30:49 pm
I recently finished the new Dark Crystal.

Story is slow at first, then eventually warms up to 'interesting' but doesn't really go any further than that. The best things I can say about this series is that it has a unique and creative aesthetic, both in terms of visuals as well as worldbuilding. Having never watched the original, everything was very much fresh and new to me and unlike anything else I've seen.

I'll be keeping my eye out for a season 2 if it happens, but I'm withholding my hype.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on September 22, 2019, 03:34:39 pm
To be fair, animatronics have always been a pain in the ass. The guy who made Gremlins didn't want to make Gremlins 2 for exactly the same reason, the puppets were so difficult to work with.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on September 22, 2019, 03:43:16 pm
I like Gabriel Iglesias's stand-up, but his Netflix show is pure ass. It's the most dated, cliched, unfunny show I've seen in a long time, and I've been watching it alongside shows from the era that made those cliches. I couldn't finish the first episode, maybe it gets better but as I said, couldn't even finish the first episode
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: WealthyRadish on September 22, 2019, 06:30:40 pm
I also watched most of the Dark Crystal series. The Skeksis make it worthwhile, but only just. Every other component could've been gutted and only kept in the capacity that it gives context to the Skeksis' crimes and debauchery, and I think the experience would be greatly improved.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: dragdeler on September 23, 2019, 06:35:09 am
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Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on September 23, 2019, 09:17:08 am
I recently finished the new Dark Crystal.

Story is slow at first, then eventually warms up to 'interesting' but doesn't really go any further than that. The best things I can say about this series is that it has a unique and creative aesthetic, both in terms of visuals as well as worldbuilding. Having never watched the original, everything was very much fresh and new to me and unlike anything else I've seen.

I'll be keeping my eye out for a season 2 if it happens, but I'm withholding my hype.

I think (last watched 25-30 years ago) the movie plot was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
You're not missing much from the story.

Edit: it helps to remember spoiler tags. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 23, 2019, 09:23:00 am
I think (last watched 25-30 years ago) the movie plot was "there are 2 sides fighting a war, the good guys and the bad guys. When one gets killed, one on the other side also dies. Then one of the Gelflings puts part of the crystal back and the good and bad guys recombine (into the skeksis?) like a reverse Dr. Jekyll." You're not missing much from the story.

Well, the new one is a prequel, so thanks for the spoilers~
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on September 26, 2019, 08:10:02 am
Been continuing to watch Scrubs. It's the perfect show to leave on because it's just interesting enough to watch, but also formulaic enough that you don't really need to watch.

Even if it fails to keep my interest, it gets brownie points for mocking Journey and "Don't Stop Believing" especially in S3E2. I fucking despise that song and that band, and anybody who likes either is literally factually wrong.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on September 26, 2019, 11:39:59 am
The first seasons of Scrubs is probably some of the greatest comedy America has ever produced.

Also mocking? More like tributing! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rHOpkKFm5k) I have no opinion of the band since I don't know them at all to the point that I wouldn't even know them as the makers as "Don't stop believing" but the song is great and I will fight you.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 29, 2019, 12:45:05 pm
I started watching a new Amazon series called Undone, and it looks to be amazing. Best to describe it is a bit of Legion (however little I saw of it) crossed with A Scanner Darkly - the latter not just through the rotoscoped visuals, but also in how it feels like it was written by P.K.Dick.
(oh, and Bob Odenkirk's in it = sold)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 29, 2019, 01:13:33 pm
I recently finished watching Jack Ryan.

It's a fairly by-the-numbers anti-terrorism drama. Production values and acting we're all fine, but the story just didn't wow me.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on September 29, 2019, 08:57:36 pm
Bob Odenkirk's hardly a replacement for Woody Harrelson, but I'm sold on intrigued by Undone from that description alone.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 30, 2019, 02:36:14 am
The whole series is great. But so short! The episodes are some 20+ mins long, and it's like three hours total. Similar format to the End of the Fucking World (which, btw, I hear gets a second season? whyfor?).
Anyway, watch the trailer - it's pretty representative of what one's getting into.

Turns out the people behind it are the same people who made BoJack Horseman. And come to think of it, it kinda shows (in a good way) in how the characters feel lived-in and in the mundanely broken interpersonal interactions grounding the odd visuals.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on October 04, 2019, 04:45:39 am
Merlin is actually much better than it appeared at first glance. It somehow threads the needle for young adult/teen-oriented media. The dialogue is camp but just enough to entertain, and the characters are simple archetypes but executed very well. I dig.

The CGI is still absolutely atrocious though.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on October 12, 2019, 10:18:32 am
So I just finished the second season of Dark.

Holy shit you guys, this thing is incredible. Few shows have managed to keep me in the dark (har har) and wondering what comes next, and this one takes the cake. Like, you can figure out a bunch of stuff since it's hinted at and foreshadowed extremely well, but that's what they fucking want you to do. The second you go: "Ha, I figured out who that is" the show will go: "Oh, is that so, here, catch these five curveballs if you're such a big shot"

And I'm both glad that it only has one season and sad, because while I really want something this good to go on longer I understand that the amount of effort it took to make something so intertwined and complex work as well as it does means that it really couldn't have been something that goes on for six seasons.

So yeah, go watch Dark.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on October 28, 2019, 12:07:51 am
Merlin's formula is starting to get silly, as TV aimed at the teen to young adult audience usually does. Exhibit A: Uther literally only exists to be dumb.

"Gaius, you've been 100% correct about every single crisis over the last 20+ episodes, but I still think you're stupid and wrong. You're fired and Merlin's going in the dungeon. I am the best king ever."
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on October 30, 2019, 08:55:59 pm
Bojack Season 6 (also, the last season, because companies don't like you going union) starts off almost as dark as most seasons end. I mean, I starts off in rehab, so the bar there isn't high, but they clear it good.

Edit: It definitely gets better in the first 2 minutes of the second episode, and you can tell I'm not joking.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on October 31, 2019, 11:23:51 am
New Witcher trailer is out, looks damn good (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndl1W4ltcmg&feature=share)

Not sure how true to the books it is since I haven't read those, but it seems to be taking a lot of inspiration from the games, especially the way he fights. Two gripes that I have tho is that there don't seem to be any other witchers around, atleast not in the trailer, which is a shame since those guys are pretty cool, and that Cavill, while looking like the part and sounding very much like the game Geralt seems kinda stiff in most shots, like he's in a perpetual state of butt-clench.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 31, 2019, 11:50:27 am
That pretty much describes my impression of Gerry though.
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Post by: Jopax on October 31, 2019, 01:24:15 pm
True, but I always attributed that stuff to the limits of the game engine and animation. He's stiff because everyone else is pretty much stiff, wouldn't really take it as a personal attribute or anything.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on November 01, 2019, 06:47:33 am
He's stiff because he's got a secret third sword up his butt
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 01, 2019, 05:24:55 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I just recently finished Doom Patrol.
My only previous exposure to DP was as cameos in other DC shows, and they usually comprised fairly uninteresting filler episodes. So my expectations were pretty low going in.
I was pleasantly surprised to find DP funny and zany, but also dramatic and mysterious at times. There were a couple of controversial episodes, and a bit of filler, and the ending really fell apart...but still, overall a quite enjoyable show.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on November 02, 2019, 12:23:02 pm
Scrubs went from "the only classic sitcom I can stomach" to "really really REALLY god damn annoying" somewhere between the first episode and the middle of season 3. The characters are mean to eachother, but not in a funny way like Superstore or Rick and Morty; they just sound like extras from Family Guy, i.e. obnoxious pricks who think they're funnier than they really are.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on November 02, 2019, 08:52:53 pm
Yeah, it was great until it wasn't.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on November 04, 2019, 09:01:30 am
Scrubs went from "the only classic sitcom I can stomach" to "really really REALLY god damn annoying" somewhere between the first episode and the middle of season 3. The characters are mean to eachother, but not in a funny way like Superstore or Rick and Morty; they just sound like extras from Family Guy, i.e. obnoxious pricks who think they're funnier than they really are.

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia has some of the mean, but funny you're looking for. It's a bit uneven, and even the creators cringe at some of the early stuff, but the newest seasons are good.

Although your comments reminded me Soap was a show, and it holds up well enough.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Ulfarr on November 13, 2019, 03:43:09 am
I've been rewatching Black Sails lately.

Historical (in)accuracies aside, I really like the first two seasons. The plot is somewhat interesting, the production is decent enough, certain fight scenes are shockingly brutal despite the exaggerated gore and most importantly the majority of the main characters are quite likeable. There are a few faults here and there (ie certain long distance shot of the ocean/ships that the cgi doesn't hold that well) but overall I highly recommend it.

I'm not sure if I'll watch the last two seasons (3rd and 4th), they get a bit tedious after the nth rehash of the same old conflicts/backstabs between the same characters... That's also the reason I never finish the series before.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on November 13, 2019, 01:53:47 pm
Has anyone caught The Mandalorian yet? (And/or sold your soul to Disney?) It does look p good despite all my Anti-Disney-Era-Star-Wars sentiment.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on November 13, 2019, 04:26:33 pm
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia has some of the mean, but funny you're looking for. It's a bit uneven, and even the creators cringe at some of the early stuff, but the newest seasons are good.
Wait, what? The early seasons (the only ones I've had the chance to watch) are absolute gold, with the exception of a bland episode here and there.
Please, please don't tell me the more recent stuff isn't going to live up to my expectations when I am finally able to watch more of it.
Charlie Got Molested is one of the greatest accomplishments of television.



...Also, since when is Scrubs a "classic sitcom"? ???
I mean, at least it isn't Friends or King of Queens, but still. Just skip all that drek and go to Seinfeld, and maybe some other goodies like MASH and Fawlty Towers (does that count as a sitcom?).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on November 13, 2019, 04:55:36 pm
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia has some of the mean, but funny you're looking for. It's a bit uneven, and even the creators cringe at some of the early stuff, but the newest seasons are good.
Wait, what? The early seasons (the only ones I've had the chance to watch) are absolute gold, with the exception of a bland episode here and there.
Please, please don't tell me the more recent stuff isn't going to live up to my expectations when I am finally able to watch more of it.
Charlie Got Molested is one of the greatest accomplishments of television.

No, it mostly gets better, with the exception of one bad season. And the funny parts are usually funnier.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on November 13, 2019, 08:18:36 pm
Hey the Mandalorian is GREAT btw.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on November 20, 2019, 09:56:34 pm
PeeWee's Playhouse is on Netflix now. It's...weird. Real weird, but in a good way.

Edit: Also, I can see why this show gave me nightmares as a child.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on November 22, 2019, 09:38:29 am
I found a neat lil' online gem that's been running for a decade now by a bunch of Americans. It's called No Evil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA7VM2tqYcM&list=PL_9VobYoMHhBjLjSxq5vzNW_9b00VUxiE&index=8). That's a pun on See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil and do no evil.

It is very American, in the best way. North American, Central American, South American, it's the most American that's ever American'd. The animation quality starts off about what you'd expect (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trfB_0ycTp0&list=PL_9VobYoMHhBjLjSxq5vzNW_9b00VUxiE&index=1) for a small team of people doing it for free, but as the years go by their production value goes up.

But even when the production value is pretty naff at the start, I was willing to overlook it. Why? Because you can buy production value, but you can't buy good story-telling. And this show has some of the best story telling I've seen, out of any production - professional and amateur. The voice acting is great, the plot is told expertly and the character development is phenomenal. It's also got a few musical episodes, normally I despise musicals but I just can't help but love the singing these guys do.

Plot wise; the plot is shown, not told. A lot of times they'll show something which will gain much deeper meaning later when something reveals and completes the puzzles set before, and the writing is clever enough that it never generates more mysteries than it can resolve. Basic plotline is a bunch of spirits are watching over two villages full of dickheads, stopping them from murdering each other, when other weirder shit starts going down.

Is it worth watching? I've watched it all 3 times and I still want to watch it.
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Post by: Iduno on December 01, 2019, 09:41:38 pm
Bojack Horseman. "Narcissus? I though the painting was about me."
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 03, 2019, 09:33:21 pm
The Mandalorian
Feels more like a video game than a show. Guy goes on quest, gets reward, uses reward to upgrade gear, repeat. Some nice Star Wars lore though, learning about those jetpack mercenaries and where they come and what they believe in. Also kawaii yodachan.

The Watchmen
This show kind of annoys me. The first few episodes were full of so much random nonsense that it was impossible to follow what was going on. Then the next few episodes were dedicated solely to revealing the backstory of one character each, which was interested but also felt like a distraction when I wanted to see the main story move forward. It's definitely an interesting world and set of characters, but the pacing is rough.

His Dark Materials
First episode feels almost identical to the start of The Golden Compass movie, but after that it diverges enough to feel suitably original. Talking animals, dramatic child abuse, magical mysteries, creative worldbuilding, and they're all executed very well. Of the several interesting shows I'm watching right now, I think this is the one I'm most invested in.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 05, 2019, 09:34:10 am
The Expanse

I just found out that after getting cancelled by SyFy last year, this show was saved by Amazon and Season 4 is coming next week, with Season 5 later!
The Expanse had a slow first two seasons, with too much filler and slow pacing even when the main arc was addressed. However. things really picked up in a solid third season, and I'm eager to see what comes next!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on December 05, 2019, 10:23:20 am
The Expanse

I just found out that after getting cancelled by SyFy last year

Wait, what?
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Post by: Folly on December 05, 2019, 10:49:52 am
The Expanse
I just found out that after getting cancelled by SyFy last year
Wait, what?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series))
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On May 11, 2018, Syfy did not purchase the rights for future seasons because of restrictive distribution arrangements, and announced it was cancelled. Alcon looked for other channels to distribute future seasons.

Fans protested the cancellation, gathering over 100,000 signatures for an online petition. They lobbied Amazon Studios and Netflix to pick the series up; a crowdfunding campaign paid for an airplane to fly a "#SaveTheExpanse" banner around Amazon Studios. Celebrities including Wil Wheaton, George R. R. Martin, Patton Oswalt and Andreas Mogensen supported the campaign.

On May 26, at the International Space Development Conference, Jeff Bezos announced that Amazon picked the series up for additional seasons. Production on the fourth season began in October 2018 and is scheduled to debut on Amazon Prime Video on December 13, 2019.
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Post by: Ulfarr on December 05, 2019, 12:10:06 pm
The Expanse

I just found out that after getting cancelled by SyFy last year, this show was saved by Amazon and Season 4 is coming next week, with Season 5 later!
The Expanse had a slow first two seasons, with too much filler and slow pacing even when the main arc was addressed. However. things really picked up in a solid third season, and I'm eager to see what comes next!

I've only seen the first two seasons so far and I really like them. The setting is probably it's strongest point but I was really impressed with their attention to details (metal beams getting red hot from the exhaust gases of a departing spaceship, bullets that have lost most of their speed after impact but still keep moving while in zero gravity).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on December 05, 2019, 12:36:35 pm
I have no idea how I missed Expanse being cancelled. I don't spend a lot of effort to watch TV, but it's a show I liked. Probably because book-readers love spoiling shit in any discussion tangentially-related to the Expanse, so I quit reading about it.


Edit: And the reason I came to post is that all of the talk about Pablo Escobar's brother reminded me of the best part of the TV show Narcos. Every episode of Narcos opens with the disclaimer "Any similarity to the name, character or history of any person is entirely coincidental and unintentional." And then proceeds to tell the story of entirely fictional people who didn't exist like Ronald Reagan, Pablo Escobar, and Manuel Noriega.
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Post by: catacombs on December 07, 2019, 10:52:23 pm
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Post by: Folly on December 08, 2019, 10:17:37 pm
After years of foreshadowing, DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths is finally here.

The first episode on this week-long event aired tonight, and...ugh. The real crisis here is all of the plot holes. I don't think a single scene in this entire episode was structurally sound.
Of course, I've long since given up on watching half of the shows in this continuity, so I may have just failed to understand some of the plot due to missing parts of the story. But I'm still pretty sure that most of it just made no sense at all.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on December 11, 2019, 02:03:37 pm
I've been binge watching Grimm in the last few weeks. I like it well enough

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 11, 2019, 02:07:03 pm
I mean, WTF.
Was the erstwhile antagonist better endowed in whatever secondary sexual characteristics are relevant?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on December 11, 2019, 02:40:41 pm
Mostly equivalent in different ways. Think Betty and Veronica, with them switching roles over at a couple of points
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Post by: Yoink on December 13, 2019, 02:34:33 am
After bingeing various other Zombie Orpheus Entertainment creations, I have now started on JourneyQuest.
I probably won't be getting much of anything else done for a while. This is positively Glorions.   
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Post by: Iduno on December 16, 2019, 11:29:05 am
What if the Simpsons had made the Hank Scorpio episode (You only move twice) a full season like Archer does instead of one episode?
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Post by: Folly on December 16, 2019, 10:42:41 pm
The Watchmen ended.

I'm still not a fan of the pacing...but otherwise, it was a really good conclusion to the previous Watchmen shenanigans.
Season 2 may or may not happen. On the one hand, this was just a really interesting story, and I'd love to see more of the same. On the other hand, this season kind of wrapped everything up and there's no need for more. I guess either way, I'm happy.
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Post by: scriver on December 17, 2019, 04:54:03 am
But Watchmen already wrapped everything up
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 20, 2019, 07:10:42 am
Give us yer Witcher reviews. You Netflixpeople, you.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on December 20, 2019, 11:13:55 am
Give us yer Witcher reviews. You Netflixpeople, you.

Witcher? I hardly knew 'er.
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Post by: Digital Hellhound on December 20, 2019, 12:20:35 pm
Give us yer Witcher reviews. You Netflixpeople, you.

Generally, I liked it. The pilot is a bit weak, but it gets better as it goes along. The actors are well-cast and give fine-to-excellent performances. There's considerable pacing issues and confusing timeline shit, plus the CGI is hit-and-miss, but overall it works. Sometimes you cringe, sometimes you're pleasantly surprised - it's no GoT-killer, but it is clearly its own show with its own feel.
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Post by: Imic on December 20, 2019, 02:59:11 pm
Epithet erased. The Characters are cordial enough to one another that it doesn’t push the trauma buttons, and on top of that, it’s actually good. The Characters feel like actual People, instead of just walking piles of tropes stitched together like demented, malformed sausages made by someone who doesn’t know what a sausage looks like.
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Post by: Folly on December 20, 2019, 03:50:36 pm
Epithet Erased probably belongs in cartoon thread.
I had passed on this one due to overwhelming criticism, largely about the animation quality. Seeing a compliment here though, I might add it to my list of things to check out.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Imic on December 20, 2019, 04:15:17 pm
Epithet Erased probably belongs in cartoon thread.
I had passed on this one due to overwhelming criticism, largely about the animation quality. Seeing a compliment here though, I might add it to my list of things to check out.
The art is high quality, but I think that animating a tv series with 20-30 minute long episodes was outside the budget of an independant Youtube Channel, but pretty much everything else is above the level of quality you’d find in a youtube series. The voice acting and music are both professionally done, and as previously stated, the art is good. At times it can feel like a webcomic with voice acting and music, and at others it can feel like a radio drama that’s been animated, but at least from my experience, none of the niggles were ever bad enough to ruin it, and everything surrounding the animation holds it up well.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Kot on December 21, 2019, 02:43:49 am
Give us yer Witcher reviews. You Netflixpeople, you.
It was... surprisingly good. I expected far, far worse. Note this is from a point of view who came into this with pre-existing knowledge of books, games, the original Polish TV series and even a comic or two.
   The plot was... weird. In terms of Geralt, it adapts most of the short stories (which I always considered a high point in terms of Witcher) in a chronological way. It actually keeps... really accurate to source material, which was my first surprise. There are some changes, but I generally understand why they have been made and agree with them*. Then there's Yennefer, which plot I find a bit medicore, but it does give her character background that, if you were reading the books, it would probably take a while to figure out her story after reading about her for first time. Her character though really shines when with Geralt though, but more on that later. The third main plot follows Ciri, and is shoved some few hundred (Yennefer) to about fifteen years forward from the rest, which I can see being a real source of confusion for everyone, especially since the show opens with it. You have to either know what is going on beforehand or watch the entire show (or at least most of it, which is not a given for modern critics) to actually properly grasp what's going on, and I personally found her plotline to be the weakest of them all, and kinda boring really.
   As far as actors go - I admit when I heard about the choices, I found them weird, and there was quite a lot of jokes about Geralt looking like a Hercules, but I must say that for what is worth, Cavill didn't lie and he really seems to know a thing or two about Witcher. I wouldn't say he nails it, but it's clear he has a grasp on what he's doing, and comes as close to nailing it as I could admit he could. He's very much the strong part of the show, and all his muscles are probably from having to carry the show on his back. Don't get me wrong, Yennefer might be compelling, but it's only with her banter with Geralt she shows a side she doesn't otherwise. She's also not how I would imagine Yennefer, but I guess she's good enough and I'm just biased due to game's portrayal that is now ingrained in my brain as "The Yennefer". Knowing that though, I can't say that I feel fine with Triss actress. She simply doesn't look compelling, and while she doesn't really get a lot of time to shine, I feel like she's a complete mistake right now. I don't even really want to blame it on casting, because I could see her being a better Triss with some cinema magic, but we'll have to see about that. Dandelion looks kinda bland for his character, but I don't really have much to say against him, mainly because he spends most of his time with Geralt, which makes his character about hundred times more entertaining than he'd be on his own. Ciri is eh. I think she is easily within "adaptation" of her character in terms of looks, but she also haven't had time to shine yet. Other characters are generally okay, and while the diversity hires did raise a brow in me, they aren't VERY in-your-eyes, but I could see people getting angry about it (especially with Istredd**). I don't mind it very much, and in two cases I think they make perfect sense*** and I applaud them for that, but they really could have used without shoving some random European-dressed peasants into the mix. I don't think it's very immersive to put, for example, black people in clothes that are culturally consistent with middle-ages white people, having that black person apparently share the culture with those white people and never acknowledge any of it. I know people will try to defend it because "it's fantasy it can be anything" but there's a reason why people of Westeros are white, while people of Summer Isles are black. I'd rather if people stopped colorizing forcefully and put thought into what they're doing - I think having some of main characters be of different race, but black statists is just to meet obvious diversity quotas. A big question to me is the skin color of elves - seeing the first two being black, I was VERY afraid they went for "the race everyone is racist towards in universe is black", but they haven't, and some elves are just black while others aren't. Right now I'm not sure anymore if that would have been a bad thing, even if it would be very obviously forced. Either way, it's more of a nitpick and addressing an issue that seems to pop up a bit, but it didn't really make my time with the series less enjoyable.
   What I however consider a giant problem is some of the costumes. They are generally okay, but holy fuck shit balls are Nilfgaard absolutely horrendous. I'm not even asking for them to wear game-style late period plate armor, but the absolutely disgusting ballsack armor (it does, in fact, make them look like actual dickheads) is just so out of place, especially when compared to pretty neat armors that show up in Cintra. Not to mention that in one or two closeups you can very plainly see the thing soldiers wear under their helmets is modern-made balaclavas. I really hope they get rid of it, because it is literally my biggest gripe with the show. It's trash, it's out of place, I cannot imagine how anyone could think it's a good idea seeing it. There is also a very obvious "evil empire" trope at play with Nilfgaard, with trashy Ork-like weapons to complete the ballsack armor. Just retcon this thing out and we can all forget this was ever a thing. Out of smaller nitpicks, Vilgefortz wears an interesting (it's not really accurate, but a bit more beliveable) setup of clothes with a gorget over them, suggesting armor underneath, and a sash to create a look of XVIIth century cavalier, which he swaps out in next episode for a horrible fantasy-like coat of rusted plates that are all mis-matched and misaligned and sewn together seemingly at random. Why they did this is beyond me, but oh well.
   Now, I feel it's already pretty long and doesn't cover everything, but I'd like to throw in few words about the "feel" coming from a person who literally grew up on Witcher - it's... pretty good actually. My heart did warm up seeing the scenes from books brought to life, or even some scenes that felt like they're cut-for-cut similar to the old series, but done with way bigger budget. It's kinda like seeing a childhood story you and your friends used to tell each other when you were young made into a movie. While the origins of Geralt might be disputed (there's this whole thing about Sapkowski being "inspired" by Elric of Melniboné), I feel like that Witcher was very important for fantasy not only in Poland, but Eastern Europe in general, so while the adaptation doesn't really feel like something that's made unique by it's country of origin, I can't be helped but think of it as something that's somehow part of local culture. There might be a missed opportunity in lack of Slavic folk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVXhU-awTs) which would make the soundtrack stand out from the generic fantasy music, and while I am pretty sure no media other than games actually used this, and it only appeared in the third game (Maybe it would have made it too similar to the games, which is something that show has a weird relationship with, since they're both seemingly inspired by it, but also sometimes forcefully trying to be unique. What was wrong with the game medallion is beyond me, as the new one looks cheaper, and the game one was based on the old series one, which IIRC was personally approved by Sapkowski and was one of few things that series got spot-on. But that's just nitpicks now.), I think the choice was so well-fitting that it has became part of the Witcher brand for me. It's not a per-se negative of the show, as I cannot really judge it on not having something that doesn't have to be there, but something that I felt could have made the action scenes just that much more.
   TL;DR In the end I was EXTREMELY positively surprised by the show. I was prepared for it to be a steaming pile of shit taken on something I grew up with, but... it's not that bad. It's not perfect of course, but I was prepared for the worst, and I've gotten something that's actually good. Main gripe is something I cannot vouch for myself, which is that the plot might be complete mess impossible to understand to people that aren't familiar with the setting or aren't willing to give the show benefit of the doubt and watch it whole, rather than expect to have everything explained early on. There's a lot of seemingly red herrings and the pacing isn't great, but, with the knowledge that I can lose my Polish Person Identification Card if the community as a whole disagrees, I declare that the show is worthy. Just fix the Nilfgaard armor for second season.
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Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on December 22, 2019, 03:16:59 am
As somebody with no history with the Witcher franchise, I was kinda dumbstruck that this is what everybody's been talking about. It's so comically edgy that I could neither take it seriously nor finish the first episode. I'm willing to concede that maybe the series isn't doing the greater story justice, but the ~25 minutes I saw struck me like Game of Thrones fanfiction. You have fantasy racism, gravelly-voiced protagonist dressed in black, blood and guts, lots of tiddies and a rape backstory all in the first half of the first episode. That's not a grim, gritty fantasy world, that's a F.A.T.A.L campaign.

The conspiracy theories about diversity quotas and le essjaydubyas are funny, though. It's like I never left Reddit.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on December 23, 2019, 07:11:22 am
I've been watching The Politician. Without giving any real spoilers, it's basically about this well-off young man who dreamt as a child of becoming the president of the United States and has spent pretty much his every waking moment since working towards that goal - and his next stepping stone on that path is to become president of his high school's student body.   

The show has scheming and skulduggery aplenty, as well as humour in various shades of dark and a good helping of twists and interpersonal drama.
I certainly didn't expect to like this sort of thing, but I'm glad my mother and I started watching it after giving up on finding anything better.
There seem to be quite a lot of bad reviews floating about the internet, but I didn't read much of them since I am still part-way through the show - I do seem to remember one of them criticising the show's pacing and "lack of direction", though, which seems rather stupid to me.
Not sure what publication those reviews were from but I get the feeling their writers have a somewhat poor attention span if they had that much trouble following the show.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Kot on December 24, 2019, 05:08:17 pm
As somebody with no history with the Witcher franchise, I was kinda dumbstruck that this is what everybody's been talking about. It's so comically edgy that I could neither take it seriously nor finish the first episode. I'm willing to concede that maybe the series isn't doing the greater story justice, but the ~25 minutes I saw struck me like Game of Thrones fanfiction. You have fantasy racism, gravelly-voiced protagonist dressed in black, blood and guts, lots of tiddies and a rape backstory all in the first half of the first episode. That's not a grim, gritty fantasy world, that's a F.A.T.A.L campaign.

The conspiracy theories about diversity quotas and le essjaydubyas are funny, though. It's like I never left Reddit.
   Eh, fair. I can completely understand why Witcher seems like edgy shit to someone who had no experience with it, and especially to people who don't know it's story. While story it's it's own thing, as honestly half of my enjoyment of the series was seeing things I know from books conveyed onto screen, the judgement of the how well adapted they are, and anticipation of how it will look in future. However, in terms of "greater story" and justice... I don't think that's particularly the case. Sure, the greater story is much more enticing even with edginess, but Witcher started as bunch of short stories, and almost all of them have already appeared in the series, and those short stories are considered the best parts of books by many. To answer why is that I can only really provide some cultural and historical background.
   Witcher is not exactly new, it started back in 80s, when Poland, and by extension, Eastern Europe was slowly emerging from the Communism, during which not everything was... okay. But skipping the details a bit, Witcher was essentially taking what people saw of western fantasy that was seeping into the now opening borders, which was glorious and hammy noble bright fantasy, and deconstructing it to the extreme. Killing monsters is not a heroic - it's a job. Snow White wasn't living quietly in a hut at the end of the world, she was a victim of unfortunate circumstance, overzealous sorcerer and mother, resulting in her joining a band of seven brigands. The Beauty is a literal beast, the Beast never had any trouble getting women to "love" him because he was rich, so he doesn't really care anymore. Elves aren't some amazing people others look up to, they're hated. Killing is horrible and brutal. War is horrible and brutal. Sex isn't scared. Add in fair dose of Slavic folklore (but not only, it shouldn't be said that Witcher is in some way essentially only Polish - it takes from way more sources), and cultural references. The world is pretty shitty, gritty, but also treated with a very high dose of self-conscience, and then there's something that the TV cannot really convey - the philosophy of it all, all of it firmly grounded in the more... eastern (not Asian, mind you) storytelling and sensibilities. It's something that may not be appreciated nowadays, because of advent of Game of Thrones and such "gritty realism" works, but back then... that was essentially it for countries still behind Iron Curtain and in it's immediate fallout. I don't want to sound like I'm comparing Sapkowski to Tolkien (because he's very much not on the same level), but I think it's fair that in terms of cultural impact Witcher here was comparable to Lord of The Rings (which, admittedly was translated quite soon into Polish and the book wasn't *forbidden*, but it apparently wasn't something you'd find in a random library). But setting the excuses aside, I'd say eh, give it a try, maybe in few years when the rest of the story arrives and it can be more... solidly grounded in it's own story. I can see how it seems like a try to outedge Game of Thrones, but it was there before it, and people liked it for whatever reason.
   As for diversity quotas and le sjw theories - I don't know why you call them theories. In books black people are a complete novelty, so people of other races being there as random peasants raises a brow. But ok, let's assume it's just because they were what was on hand and since they're just people without any role in the script, they can be whatever. But why Fringilla Vigo, which is aunt of Cahir (the bad Nilfgaard dude, who is white), who is related to Anna Henrietta (which is not shown, but presumably white), Emhyr (who is white) and by extension to Ciri (who is white, thankfully), and whose similarity to Yennefer (which is... Indian, I think, but supposed to be white) is a plot point later on, is black in show, just kinda escapes my grasp, unless there was a reason why they wanted her to be black in spite of fucking over internal consistency, and only reason that really springs to my mind is diversity quota. Call it Reddit or not (which I think is kinda dumb, doesn't Reddit actually defend the diversity?), but it's there.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on December 24, 2019, 05:55:57 pm
Reading the various reviews so far, it appears that fans love it, but the general audience finds it too edgy for its own good.
Rotten Tomatoes has it hovering about the same score as the latest Star Wars, and that's not great.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: itisnotlogical on December 27, 2019, 07:48:57 am
Call it Reddit or not (which I think is kinda dumb, doesn't Reddit actually defend the diversity?), but it's there.

All I'll say is, it's very fashionable among a large section of gamers to throw a huge tantrum whenever any kind of minority shows up anywhere. Attempts at justification usually read as thin skinned "No it's REALLY IMPORTANT that this fictional game doesn't have any women or black people or gays" post-hoc rationalization.

I'll concede that in the case of The Witcher it might not have been well thought out, but especially before release it seemed like people were really grasping at straws to shit on the non-white actresses. I appreciate the context, but Lord knows I'm still probably never going to watch this show again. Might check out the books though, with the new context in mind.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Reelya on December 27, 2019, 08:04:03 am
   As for diversity quotas and le sjw theories - I don't know why you call them theories. In books black people are a complete novelty, so people of other races being there as random peasants raises a brow. But ok, let's assume it's just because they were what was on hand and since they're just people without any role in the script, they can be whatever. But why Fringilla Vigo, which is aunt of Cahir (the bad Nilfgaard dude, who is white), who is related to Anna Henrietta (which is not shown, but presumably white), Emhyr (who is white) and by extension to Ciri (who is white, thankfully), and whose similarity to Yennefer (which is... Indian, I think, but supposed to be white) is a plot point later on, is black in show, just kinda escapes my grasp, unless there was a reason why they wanted her to be black in spite of fucking over internal consistency, and only reason that really springs to my mind is diversity quota. Call it Reddit or not (which I think is kinda dumb, doesn't Reddit actually defend the diversity?), but it's there.

My view is that it's actually American cultural hegemony at work, not SJWs. It's racial quotas, but based on an American model. And it's a legit criticism that a Polish work is appropriated (for cash though) then has a whole lot of American cultural sensibilities stamped on top. Think about it this way: if they do the same treatment to most countries, everyone is up in arms about it. But if that source country is a "pale skin" country then suddenly you're not allowed to criticize the fact that they've blandified it for an American audience complete with the approved quotas.

The original game series did in fact get criticized for a lack of diversity. But hey, it's set in medieval Poland to the best of my knowledge, and there weren't quite that many black people running around. A point of comparison is whether you'd get upset about that game set in Inuit lands only having Inuit people in it, or get upset about any game set in feudal Japan only having Japanese people in it. If not, why the need to get upset about a medieval Polish game only being populated by Polish people. That's the thing, it's being viewed through the lens of contemporary American culture and you need to adhere to the "rules" or there are certain people who will attack your product. And the rules are that your racial mix must resemble the approved racial mix of the modern USA, if and only if your country of origin is pale-skinned.

So if there is any pushback, it's not because there are black people in it, it's because they changed the setting of the source material to match the racial mix in a place like the USA rather than Poland. It's been Americanized in that and probably other ways.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 29, 2019, 10:53:26 pm
I just finished watching Lost in Space season 2.
The action scenes were too frequent and lengthy for my taste. Watching people run around frantically dodging explosions and racing to put out fires is great in small bursts, but in hour-long episodes where they spend about two thirds of their time trying to keep the excitement dialed up to 11, it just becomes tedious. I spent a large part of this season playing games on my phone while waiting for the tryhard music to die down so that I would know they might be getting back to the real plot.
Still, the season did find time for a few dramatic twists and unexpected plot devices, and ended on a cliffhanger that leaves me looking forward to season 3.

I also recently watched Emergence.
Mystery amnesia girl drops out of the sky, gets adopted by first family she encounters, and begins exhibiting Magneto powers while black suits try to hunt her down. It's all pretty cliche, and fails to set itself apart from the multitude of other shows that have done the exact same things.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Reelya on December 30, 2019, 01:47:14 am
They've remade Lost in Space? The one I've always wanted them to remake is Land of the Giants. However what they should have done in the original version is have the twist that the land of the giants planet is really Earth.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Iduno on December 30, 2019, 03:01:23 pm
As long as the year is ending, what TV shows did you just give up on without finishing this year?

I quit watching Supernatural in season...7 or 8? when it was just angels fighting constantly, and maybe one of the brothers was different, and I just wanted a damn monster of the week.
I started Wynnona Earp and got to early in the second season where they decided to change the plot to a weird conspiracy thing and make everything too big for the characters.
I was watching PeeWee's Playhouse to relax (although it seems more oriented to adults than children), but I no longer have Netflix.
I also can't watch It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia this season, because I can't find what channel they've hidden it on in my area.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on December 30, 2019, 03:39:49 pm
I got a bit weary on the last episode of Grimm. I'll probably finish it at some point...

Arrow... I honestly liked the first two seasons, and liked somewhat the third one. Beyond that I got bored. I might skip to the end of season 4 and move onto season 5, which I heard recovers a bit of the previous pacing.



And in "not quite quit": I really really want to watch Rebellion, which looks quite good, but I've been in a low mood and I can't really deal with historical drama at this point.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 30, 2019, 04:19:34 pm
Series I gave up on this year...The Walking Dead, Titans, Punisher, Jessica Jones, Vikings, Bosch, Mr Robot, Black Lightning, Supergirl...and surely a few others I'm forgetting.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on December 31, 2019, 05:16:43 am
I also gave up on The Walking Dead, the whole cast is an unlike able bunch of assholes.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on December 31, 2019, 07:00:26 am
I gave up on the walking dead when they spent a whole season in a farm
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on December 31, 2019, 07:31:25 am
I got to the season where they lived in the prison before giving up on it, because after that it seemed like it was just going to be the same thing over and over again.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on January 01, 2020, 07:54:14 pm
I caved in and started on the Witcher. Man, it's kinda bad (so far).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on January 01, 2020, 10:22:49 pm
The Walking Dead TV show was so bad. I had friends who were into it and I could never understand why.
The comics were good for a while, at least.   
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 01, 2020, 11:29:26 pm
New season of Doctor Who has begun.
First episode basically had three aspects. First there was a James Bond imitation thing, which was extremely cringe. Then some extra-dimensional light monsters who want to kill us all just because they're dicks, which is about as good as could reasonably be expected from a show with this many seasons trying to come up with new aliens. Then the twist ending, which was a satisfying return to what once made this show good.
Overall, I'm optimistic that this season may be marginally better than the last.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Eschar on January 03, 2020, 07:12:42 pm
Manifest is coming back on soon.

*laughter*
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 04, 2020, 05:57:08 pm
I finished watching The Witcher, season 1.
Went in largely blind, having never read the literature and only played half of the first game.

Firstly, the chronology issue. I've read a fair amount of feedback on this and the only people I've seen defending it do so on artistic grounds...which is always fair, I guess. Apparently there are some people who appreciate their TV shows being presented in completely random chronological order and with only subtle conversational cues to indicate when any episode is happening. I, however, am not one of those people.

Second, the destiny thing. I can appreciate Destiny being used as an excuse for occasional coincidences. The idea that some greater force is subtly guiding individuals where they need to go so they will have an opportunity to do something meaningful eventually is somewhat romantic in a sense. However, in this show 'Destiny' is literally puppeting people, forcing them to go places and do things and feel things with absolutely no personal motive, just an invisible force controlling them. This is just about the least satisfying plot device I can imagine.

Lastly, Witcher does not do a lot to set itself apart from every other medieval fantasy. There is some decent fan service, and the over-zealous witch society can be interesting at times, but pretty much everything else done here has been seen too many times before.

Overall I'd rate this show 'watchable', but can't be much kinder than that.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 04, 2020, 07:41:09 pm
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Firstly, the chronology issue. I've read a fair amount of feedback on this and the only people I've seen defending it do so on artistic grounds...which is always fair, I guess. Apparently there are some people who appreciate their TV shows being presented in completely random chronological order and with only subtle conversational cues to indicate when any episode is happening. I, however, am not one of those people.
IMO it's way too unexplained... you probably got the fact that things are happening in different times at some point, maybe episode 2 or 3. You probably didn't realize that there are usually three to four timelines going on in each episode, sometimes with 80+ years of difference (eg: all that shit about Yennefer's training? She is supposed to be pushing a hundred. All that stuff about her training happened waay before pretty much anything else in the series).

I think they made a sloppy job with the timelines. I think they should have made those in the context of an episode focused in whichever character it was, make it clear that it's a flashback, and make it clear about the dates, probably.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on January 04, 2020, 09:00:18 pm
The Witcher's chronology sucks, but IMO the practical effects, sets, and Mr. Cavill are ballin'. Also enjoy most of the actors/characters--Moussack being a personal fav.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on January 04, 2020, 09:38:40 pm
Yeah, the show's a mess.

The timelines thing seems like an attempt at creating that nice Westworld epiphany, only a mostly failed one.

The dialogue and soliloquies are often taken verbatim from the books, but this style of writing doesn't translate well to the screen.

The CGI is hit-and-miss, the combat choreography often doesn't make sense, the rules of magic feel ad hoc and illogical.
The acting is not good enough to sell it all despite the flaws.

That is not to say the show doesn't have its moments. But it's terribly uneven, and even at its best it ain't terrific.

Overall it felt like an upgraded version of the old Polish adaptation. And that's not a good thing to be.

And boy, if I hear 'destiny' one more time I'm going to vomit (I'm looking at you, ep.4).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 04, 2020, 10:07:36 pm
Btw: is it just me or the Ronin mage was totally a reference to the first mage you fight in the Witcher 1?  I mean he even had a pet frightener too (albeit smaller than the one in TW1)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Yoink on January 05, 2020, 05:29:18 am
I binged the second season of The End of the Fucking World today.
Previously I'd been like, why tf did they even need a second season? But I'd grown more and more curious to see what became of the characters nonetheless. It definitely scratched that itch. I loved it. Different, of course, to the first season, but the things you loved about it are still there.   

Plus, as with the first season, there is not only the well-written story itself unwinding before your eyes, you are also taken on a wonderful musical voyage thanks to the top-notch soundtrack. There wasn't a single song that missed the mark, and there are at least a few new (to me!) musicians whom I will be listening to a lot more of in the future.
Heck, I already have been listening to more of them, as I digest what I just watched.   
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Kot on January 05, 2020, 04:50:19 pm
Firstly, the chronology issue. I've read a fair amount of feedback on this and the only people I've seen defending it do so on artistic grounds...which is always fair, I guess. Apparently there are some people who appreciate their TV shows being presented in completely random chronological order and with only subtle conversational cues to indicate when any episode is happening. I, however, am not one of those people.
I don't think it's artistic. I think it's mostly a reasonable choice to set-up background and adapt the subjectively best parts of Witcher before delving into the main plotline of saga, which is Ciri, yet to still have her so it's not a complete cop-out that a main character is included only in second season and people go like "ok who is that". I don't think the idea by itself was bad, but yeah, the handling is shit, it doesn't explain that much. Even having all the context it took me a while before realizing it is actually separate timelines, rather than show shoving things around in time.
IMO it's way too unexplained... you probably got the fact that things are happening in different times at some point, maybe episode 2 or 3. You probably didn't realize that there are usually three to four timelines going on in each episode, sometimes with 80+ years of difference (eg: all that shit about Yennefer's training? She is supposed to be pushing a hundred. All that stuff about her training happened waay before pretty much anything else in the series).
I think they made a sloppy job with the timelines. I think they should have made those in the context of an episode focused in whichever character it was, make it clear that it's a flashback, and make it clear about the dates, probably.
I think just slapping a date on it would be kinda lazy, and after a while they do drop a whole lot of hints (that require careful watching however), but yes there should be some more indication outright that plot is convoluted.
Second, the destiny thing. I can appreciate Destiny being used as an excuse for occasional coincidences. The idea that some greater force is subtly guiding individuals where they need to go so they will have an opportunity to do something meaningful eventually is somewhat romantic in a sense. However, in this show 'Destiny' is literally puppeting people, forcing them to go places and do things and feel things with absolutely no personal motive, just an invisible force controlling them. This is just about the least satisfying plot device I can imagine.
Yes. No. Kind of. The show doesn't delve more into it, because it's discussed much later on in the books if there actually is destiny or is it just self-fulfilling prophecies or even something more - contrasting complete rationalism and possibility of "something more". As for it being a shit plot device, eh, it was enough for Greeks, and books are at least self-aware about it. It's not really a defense of the show, but rather of the handling of destiny in Witcher in general.
Lastly, Witcher does not do a lot to set itself apart from every other medieval fantasy. There is some decent fan service, and the over-zealous witch society can be interesting at times, but pretty much everything else done here has been seen too many times before.
Well, that's kinda the problem, Witcher by itself doesn't really have that much of unique setting by modern standards - the whole "Slavic" shebang you get in Witcher 3 and such is more of an adaptional thing, and was probably very consciously dismissed by the show runners, and while some years ago a fantasy show that delved more into "grounded" fantasy, with some background of politics might have been more unique, in year 2019+1 we've gone far from fantasy just being Lord of The Rings.
The timelines thing seems like an attempt at creating that nice Westworld epiphany, only a mostly failed one.
I think that's just blatantly false. Westworld kinda hinged on that plot point, and while it was hinted at (enough to be the main theory for longest time), it clearly served the purpose of, well, creating "that nice Westworld epiphany". Witcher is so obvious with having separate timelines if you pay attention (IIRC, in the same episode you see Foltest both as an old dude and as a kid) that I am pretty sure they wanted people to know there are separate timelines, they just failed miserably at making it clear from the get-go, which confuses people.
The dialogue and soliloquies are often taken verbatim from the books, but this style of writing doesn't translate well to the screen.
There's lack of internal dialogue, but that's the problem of nearly all show adaptations. As for if the actual dialogue translates well - eeeh, I don't know. It seemed fine at the time.
The CGI is hit-and-miss,
The dragon could be worse. :P
the combat choreography often doesn't make sense,
Well, when it's some Nilfgaard dude waving a giant axe around, sure, but the main fighting of the show, which is what Geralt does, is actually better than a lot.
the rules of magic feel ad hoc and illogical.
The acting is not good enough to sell it all despite the flaws.
Coincidentally, the "rule of magic" being equivalent exchange is the show's invention, which does raise an eyebrow. It is kinda like that with spells taking their toll on magic users in books, but nowhere is it stated it's because of some lifeforce thing. I presume they just felt a need to explain magic in an universe where magic is supposedly more akin to science rather than make-believe, but in practice is pure make-believe.
That is not to say the show doesn't have its moments. But it's terribly uneven, and even at its best it ain't terrific.
Overall it felt like an upgraded version of the old Polish adaptation. And that's not a good thing to be.
I think I feel positively about this show mainly because initially I thought it's going to be so horrible I will miss the old Polish one. It surprised me positively so greatly I try to look past some of it's flaws. It really could have been so much worse that being an upgraded version of the old Polish adaptation is something that seems completely fine to me, but then, I was under assumption the target is people who are mostly not familiar with Sapkowski's books, rather than people who actually know what the fuck is going in their show.
And boy, if I hear 'destiny' one more time I'm going to vomit (I'm looking at you, ep.4).
I think I have grown resistant to the word "destiny" because I watched that one other (quasi-historical) fantasy show that used that word a lot. Something something "destiny is all", something something Geralt son of Geralt son of Geralt son of Geralt son of Geralt.
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Post by: nenjin on January 05, 2020, 05:11:40 pm
Bit of an aside, but, my friends and I over the years have pointed to destiny and predestination as our least favorite plot device in all of fiction.

I feel like it was huge in the 80s when we were growing up, especially in fantasy literature. David Eddings literally killed the "destiny" / "chosen one" thing for me when he made prophecy an actual character that speaks in his books, with a personality and snark and everything.

I guess it's easier to write a fish out of water story where your main character's internal motivations don't matter as much and their place in the story can be determined by an external but unaddressable force. It's like having an invisible parent telling you what to do.

And maybe it's the double dose of both literature and gaming that leverage so much predestination that I can't stand it anymore. I'm not a big Star Trek fan or anything, but I was watching a trailer for Picard? I think? And it cuts dramatically to someone saying "she's the key to all this" referencing some character in the show. And my instant reaction was to dismiss the entire thing.

More and more, I want characters that do stuff because they want stuff, because they have some real, tangible internal motivation. People that do great things because they chose to, not because it was their destiny to.
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Post by: Reelya on January 06, 2020, 05:07:25 pm
Yeah, it is the band-aid for a lot of lazy writing. With "destiny" you can more or less have any story meander however you like, and have it end up with them beating the Big Bad, any amount of contrivances required, and it just works out because it was "destiny".
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Post by: Ulfarr on January 07, 2020, 01:30:11 pm
I binged the new Dracula mini series (on netflix) last night. It's just 3 episodes with a runtime of ~1,5-2 hours each and honestly I would really like to recommend it but I just can't. The acting is a bit hit or miss, even by the very same actor/actress in some cases, and it seems like the creators/producers/writers just didn't know what they wanted to do with the show somehow. There are some interesting ideas here and there but ultimately they don't matter because they are mostly left unexplored.

Spoiler: very minor spoilers (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Folly on January 16, 2020, 02:59:44 pm
I finished watching The End of the Fucking World.

First of all, I'm disappointed that it didn't take place in a post-apocalyptic setting. Not that I particularly enjoy that setting...but the show's title set certain expectations, and then did not live up to them.

Second, I must acknowledge the noteworthy musical accompaniment which others have mentioned. It's not my particular style of music so it's effect on me was limited...but I must admit it was well composed just the same.

Beyond that, the show was just a story of stupid teenagers being stupid teenagers under mildly interesting circumstances. Watchable, but imo undeserving of much of the praise it has been given.


In other TV news, Season 5 of The Magicians just began, and it's off to a strong start!
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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 16, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
Watchable, but imo undeserving of much of the praise it has been given.
Ha! You've just failed our Voigt-Kampf test aimed at weeding out emotionless robots who can't relate to being a teenager or appreciate the humanism in the presentation.
Stay put and await the retirement procedure. We're sending an operative who is probably not a robot also. Maybe.
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Post by: Iduno on January 16, 2020, 03:25:40 pm
We're sending an operative who is probably not a robot also. Maybe.

I like the idea that he isn't a robot, because the actual artificial people with no ability to feel showed more emotion than the detective who knows nothing but work and ramen. That's at least cool.
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Post by: Folly on January 23, 2020, 09:46:09 pm
First episode of Picard has arrived.

I'm slightly disappointed that it seems it will focus on a single major story arc, rather than a return to the episodic nature of the classic Treks. I had little hope of that happening, but still it would have been nice.

Other than that they've done an excellent job paying tribute to what came before, while simultaneously advancing the lore of the Trek universe in meaningful ways. I'm looking forward to seeing more.

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Post by: scriver on January 24, 2020, 07:40:45 am
Whats the... er... whatchacallit.. scenography? Visual theme design? Object and stuff looks? Anyway, what's it like? Did they go for the oldy or retro look or did they go modern?
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Post by: nenjin on January 24, 2020, 11:01:29 am
Apparently the Federation is now a dystopia?
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Post by: Folly on January 24, 2020, 04:33:46 pm
Visual theme? A lot of the props and scenery are either dusted off and taken directly from the sets of the old shows, or else reproduced to look exactly the same. It's clear that they intend this show to be a direct successor to those shows, not a reboot. Though they also mix in a fair amount of more modern special effects, which does track since it's set in the future relative to the old shows, so new stuff would have been invented since then.
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Post by: Reelya on January 27, 2020, 07:44:51 am
First episode of Picard has arrived.

I'm slightly disappointed that it seems it will focus on a single major story arc, rather than a return to the episodic nature of the classic Treks. I had little hope of that happening, but still it would have been nice.

From a single episode you sometimes can't tell. Many shows will start with an introductory arc of 3-4 episodes before settling into an adventure of the week format, then having the main plot simmer in the background for a while.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 29, 2020, 02:35:00 am
Has anyone here seen the Watchmen series and care to share opinions? Is that like a sequel or an independent retelling?
I've only seen the Snyder film, and loved it (fite me), for what it's worth.
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Post by: Folly on January 29, 2020, 05:50:11 am
Has anyone here seen the Watchmen series and care to share opinions? Is that like a sequel or an independent retelling?
I've only seen the Snyder film, and loved it (fite me), for what it's worth.

The movie was a pretty close representation of the original comics, with one significant difference.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The new series follows the comic book version, and is set some years in the future. It reveals some interesting history of the original masked crime fighters, and brings closure to Veidt and Manhattan, while also introducing a new generation of characters.

The series has enjoyed generally very positive critical reception. Personally I had some minor issues with the choice of storytelling mechanisms, but otherwise enjoyed the story and appreciated the general quality of the show.
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Post by: Jopax on January 29, 2020, 06:09:07 am
Yeah, the movie version is one of the few Synder films where he wasn't detrimental to the adaptation of the thing. Not sure if it was because of the source material being a bit different in nature to most comic books he tried doing later on so it took to his particular approach a bit better or if there was more at play there.
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Post by: scriver on January 29, 2020, 06:13:13 am
He likely had other people reigning him in more at that point. The "no you can't have a psychic giant squid, that's silly, people will laugh" decision is probably the best adaption improvement decision in Hollywood history, I refuse to believe Snyder "I will rape Batman" McSnyderson was capable of that kind of good judgement.
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Post by: Iduno on January 29, 2020, 01:53:07 pm
I'm getting around to watching Dark Angel in my free time. Pretty good so far.
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Post by: scriver on January 29, 2020, 02:32:40 pm
...The one from the early 00's? Or did they remake it? Or is it another one with the same name?
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Post by: Iduno on January 29, 2020, 04:47:22 pm
...The one from the early 00's? Or did they remake it? Or is it another one with the same name?

Yeah, I'm not exactly on the bleeding edge of media.
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Post by: Folly on January 29, 2020, 07:22:41 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel)
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Dark Angel may refer to:

The Dark Angel (1925 film), a silent film starring Ronald Colman and Vilma Banky, now a lost film
The Dark Angel (1935 film), a film starring Fredric March and Merle Oberon
Dark Angel (1990 film), or I Come in Peace, a science fiction thriller featuring Dolph Lundgren
Dark Angel: The Ascent, a 1994 film starring Angela Featherstone
Dark Angel (1996 film), a TV detective film starring Eric Roberts
Bettie Page: Dark Angel, a 2004 biographical film
"Dark Angel", a 2009 short film tribute to Sophie Lancaster

Dark Angel (2000 TV series), an American science fiction series starring Jessica Alba
Dark Angel (2016 TV series), a British true crime television mini-series
"Dark Angel", a 1972 episode of Kung Fu
The Dark Angel, a 1987 UK serial based on Uncle Silas by J. Sheridan Le Fanu
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Post by: scriver on January 30, 2020, 06:48:55 am
I liked it a lot when it went (I was in the early teenish years, don't remember what years it aired in Sweden. Thinking back I still think the environment design was top for it's time. I'm very rose-tinted-glassedly about it. Jessica Alba might have something to do with that.

As for tv-series of my own, I watched My Brilliant Friend, the adaption of the book by that Italian Pseudonym (Ferrante?). Enjoyed it greatly, fantastic time piece and great acting. It's definitely worth a check out -- it's HBO length, so I think it was 8 episodes.
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Post by: Iduno on January 30, 2020, 11:47:50 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel)
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Dark Angel may refer to:

The Dark Angel (1925 film), a silent film starring Ronald Colman and Vilma Banky, now a lost film
The Dark Angel (1935 film), a film starring Fredric March and Merle Oberon
Dark Angel (1990 film), or I Come in Peace, a science fiction thriller featuring Dolph Lundgren
Dark Angel: The Ascent, a 1994 film starring Angela Featherstone
Dark Angel (1996 film), a TV detective film starring Eric Roberts
Bettie Page: Dark Angel, a 2004 biographical film
"Dark Angel", a 2009 short film tribute to Sophie Lancaster

Dark Angel (2000 TV series), an American science fiction series starring Jessica Alba
Dark Angel (2016 TV series), a British true crime television mini-series
"Dark Angel", a 1972 episode of Kung Fu
The Dark Angel, a 1987 UK serial based on Uncle Silas by J. Sheridan Le Fanu

Even narrowing it down to TV shows, there are 3 series with that name. Impressive.


I liked it a lot when it went (I was in the early teenish years, don't remember what years it aired in Sweden. Thinking back I still think the environment design was top for it's time. I'm very rose-tinted-glassedly about it. Jessica Alba might have something to do with that.

I think it actually is good quality. I can imagine they ran out of stories and the last season is probably uneven (as it is with these things), but until then it is entertaining.

Other thoughts: Chuck D did the intro. Also, "It's okay Eric. You saved my life and gave me a case of motor oil. I can honestly say no man has ever done so much."
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Post by: Folly on February 06, 2020, 10:25:04 am
I just finished watching Marvel's Runaways.

It's a mashup of a bunch of different themes, none of which are executed well. The story manages to be just okay, but is marred by poor casting choices and some really bad dialogue.
Hard to recommend this one...but it's far from the worst TV show Marvel has made recently.
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Post by: scriver on February 06, 2020, 10:51:22 am
Inhumans inhumifies?

Was that one dropped after the first season?
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Post by: Iduno on February 27, 2020, 11:20:42 am
Anyone watching the Picard (https://youtu.be/X6oUz1v17Uo) show? Is it any good?


I just finished watching Marvel's Runaways.

It's a mashup of a bunch of different themes, none of which are executed well. The story manages to be just okay, but is marred by poor casting choices and some really bad dialogue.
Hard to recommend this one...but it's far from the worst TV show Marvel has made recently.

I loved Lita Ford in that.
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Post by: nenjin on February 27, 2020, 11:33:50 am
Haven’t watched Picard but I’ve been following Red Letter Media’s take on it.

Basically it’s not Star Trek to them. It’s the Star Trek universe recast in a dystopian, grim dark, edgy, action-oriented fashion, complete with concepts like Fate, Destiny and maybe even a touch of magic. Ridiculous plot threads dry humping TNG plots in implausible ways. The federation is now some unenlightened, class-warfare based society where black characters come after Picard for being white and privileged.....it’s basically the same edgy, woke garbage you can find almost anywhere else now, with a hefty dollop of high production action scenes.

It’s nothing like any other Star Trek in terms of themes and motivations. Honestly the most interesting part of it is watching a very aged Patrick Stewart try and keep up.
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Post by: Folly on February 27, 2020, 05:46:53 pm
We talked a bit about Picard on the previous page of this thread.

I've been watching and enjoying it. Yeah, it's not the classic Trek's, despite bringing back the actors from those shows; but it's a respectable tribute to what came before, while trying to move forward.

I have to disagree with some of what Nenjin said. There are action scenes, but they don't try to carry the show any more than in the classic Trek's. The Federation has become corrupted, but it's ideals were always flawed, and it makes perfect sense to me that it would eventually struggle because of those flaws. I don't really see the racist and 'woke' aspects at all. I will admit that some of the plot threads are a bit ridiculous though, particularly in regards to the AI's...but Trek science does stretch suspension of disbelief at times, so I give it a pass.
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Post by: nenjin on February 28, 2020, 11:27:15 am
I don't really find recasting Star Trek in to the same "all our entertainment needs to bum us out and be awful just like the real world is" mode a respectful tribute. I think this generation of writers just doesn't know how to do anything any other way. They don't know how do to anything without making it about evil governments, gender and race politics and "Fate". It was the same shit with Star Wars. Take something people liked, cram as much politics and agenda in to it as possible, then be confused why you lost your audience.

FWIW, older Star Trek dealt with all these issues but it did it from the outside looking in as a way to explore our own real life issues through the lens of an enlightened culture. "We" were the alien cultures with problems and issues to be resolved, the Federation was our detached, enlightened way of coming to understand ourselves.

That kind of subtlety is gone. And for the record, the entire scene from the rooftop fight is 17 minutes.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on February 28, 2020, 04:05:02 pm
Yea, I tend to agree with Nenjin's and RLM's take on "New Trek".

Picard isn't ~bad~, but it's not really trek either. Personally, I would cite the writing (both technically and stylistically), the design/prop/cg aesthetic, and in some cases the casting and/or acting styles as being too divulgent from the Star Trek universe. On one hand, obviously, you can write any story any way you want, BUT (also a lot like Star Wars) you can't just insert that same story into whatever universe you want without attempting to conform to (or consciously subvert) that universe's conventions and expect it to ~work~.
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Post by: nenjin on February 28, 2020, 04:59:35 pm
Ironic there's another RLM on Picard posted today. I appreciate how "Treky" a whole scene about drilling out a dude's eyeball in gory detail is.

"All the problems of the 21st century are back: poverty, crime, drugs, homelessness, rape, murder, racism, corruption, greed, homophobia."
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Post by: Iduno on March 01, 2020, 09:46:35 pm
Ironic there's another RLM on Picard posted today. I appreciate how "Treky" a whole scene about drilling out a dude's eyeball in gory detail is.

"All the problems of the 21st century are back: poverty, crime, drugs, homelessness, rape, murder, racism, corruption, greed, homophobia."

Cool. I can save on the price of cable or whatever and just look out a window.

Also, the eye scene in The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance was better.
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Post by: Yoink on March 09, 2020, 08:35:55 am
Started watching something called The Break, on Netflix. It's a Belsh show, in whatever language they speak in that part of the world - a bastardised form of French, I believe?

Anyway, at first it seemed kind of mediocre and the only thing that really caught my eye was the very clearly True Detective-inspired intro, but I suppose it's interesting enough that I'll watch it a bit further and see if it keeps on doling out enough tasty tidbits to hold my attention.   
These "cop with troubled past moves to small town for a quieter life only to stumble upon something horrible" shows are a dime a dozen these days and aren't usually my thing, but we'll see.   
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Post by: Iduno on March 09, 2020, 03:07:32 pm
It's a Belsh show,   

Welsh, or from part of Albania?


Edit: Also, the only cop show I've enjoyed was Cyber City Oedo.
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Post by: Yoink on March 10, 2020, 02:15:49 am
It's how intellectuals say "Belgian". :P


Also I'm not entirely sure what classifies as a "cop show". I've seen a few (widely varied) shows about different kinds of cops over the years that I have enjoyed, but I don't know if they count as your typical cop show. Stuff like The Wire, True Detective, Brooklyn 99, The Good Cop, etcetera... all shows with various kinds of cop as main characters, but I don't know if they follow the usual formula.   



Edit: oh, and it's got an actor (a minor one) from A Very Secret Service in it, which is a favourite show of mine.   
He'd been bugging me for a while with how familiar he looked - though he plays a fairly small role in this show as well, at least so far - and I only just now realised just where I'd seen him before, a few minutes into episode eight.   
How interesting. Are there any major differences between French French and Belgian French?   
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Post by: Iduno on March 10, 2020, 07:50:33 am
It's how intellectuals say "Belgian". :P

Also I'm not entirely sure what classifies as a "cop show". I've seen a few (widely varied) shows about different kinds of cops over the years that I have enjoyed, but I don't know if they count as your typical cop show. Stuff like The Wire, True Detective, Brooklyn 99, The Good Cop, etcetera... all shows with various kinds of cop as main characters, but I don't know if they follow the usual formula.   

Edit: oh, and it's got an actor (a minor one) from A Very Secret Service in it, which is a favourite show of mine.   
He'd been bugging me for a while with how familiar he looked - though he plays a fairly small role in this show as well, at least so far - and I only just now realised just where I'd seen him before, a few minutes into episode eight.   
How interesting. Are there any major differences between French French and Belgian French?   

Yeah, cop shows are pretty much just "here are cops, shooting the bad guy, aren't they great?". There's a formula, and Brooklyn 99 is probably making fun of that, but I'd have to watch to know.

I assume there is a difference, because Belgian French is Flemish, from the (now non-existent) Flanders.
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Post by: scriver on March 10, 2020, 11:36:50 am
Flemish aren't French, Flems are a kind of Germanians living there.

The French Belgians are the Waloon, from Waloonia.
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Post by: Yoink on March 10, 2020, 11:13:51 pm
Well, whoever they are, they can make a damn good television show.   
Also I don't think any of my favourite shows about cops fit the "cop show" descriptor after all, in that case.   


The Break is great, though. Finished the first season and it actually managed to surprise, or even shock me. And I'm pretty inured to twists. I'm kind of tempted to just jump straight into the second season, now...   
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on March 12, 2020, 03:55:48 pm
Anyone seen Altered Carbon S2 yet???
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Post by: itisnotlogical on March 18, 2020, 06:05:41 am
I kept watching Star Wars: Rebels despite my dislike of it, because I'm a glutton for punishment. Little did I know in the last episode of S2 they would get rid of almost everything I disliked about the series, while bringing its general style and presentation more in-line with Clone Wars. It's not great, but it's okay.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: scriver on March 18, 2020, 06:11:06 am
Then you start season three and IT'S BACK WITH A VENGEANCE
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Post by: Yoink on March 18, 2020, 06:49:37 am
Watched an episode of Final Space S2 despite having kinda forgotten where I was up to, but I hadn't missed much since season two honestly doesn't seem as good as the first, so far. Has its moments and is fun enough, though.   


Mostly, though, I just can't wait for Ozark season three, which drops in a few dang days or so!
Also I have season two of The Break to dip my toes in and see if it's as good, plus that weird, kinda young adult-ish Ragnarok show I've watched a few episodes of. Still not sure if I like it or not, haha.   



Oh yeah, and this is a re-watch, but the other day I tracked down and purchased a beautiful Blu-Ray copy of Danger Five, the full series. Comes with various special features and a set of postcards featuring various characters and themes from the show. Hell yes.   
If you haven't seen Danger Five, fix that. I would recommend maybe skipping the pilot for new viewers, though, since it doesn't have the dialogue and comedic timing quite as down-pat. Heck, I believe I started with Season 2, since it happened to be on the telly all those years ago when I first had my mind blown by it.   
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Post by: Iduno on March 18, 2020, 08:42:40 am
I don't know what countries it works in, but apparently adult swim put all of Aqua Teen Hunger Force on their website for free to keep people home.

It's a comedy about 3 detectives who are a shake, an order of french fries, and a wad of meat. Watch as they face off against enemies like each other, their neighbor Carl who doesn't want them in his pool/life, stupid aliens from the moon who want to break stuff, a sandwich, and a time traveling turkey who might be lying about the time traveling and the turkey parts of that description.
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Post by: itisnotlogical on March 23, 2020, 01:27:22 am
Beastars on Netflix. I'm on episode 3. The gender politics and metaphors are totally fucked, but it's hilarious. I can't believe Netflix deadass co-produced an anime R-rated Zootopia.
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Post by: Reelya on March 23, 2020, 01:48:02 am
EDIT: yeah I was wrong, Netflix did put some funding into this.

Though a lot of the stuff barely passes muster as a co-production, it's mostly just licensing stuff for streaming overseas. I really only regard something as an actual co-production when both financing nations had significant input into the production in terms of story or art, not just throwing cash at a franchise that already existed.
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Post by: itisnotlogical on March 23, 2020, 01:55:57 am
Ah, I assumed that the "Netflix series" still meant it was actually produced by Netflix. I'd never heard of it before seeing it there.
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Post by: Reelya on March 23, 2020, 02:00:49 am
I checked, I have a copy of the show here. Netflix does actually turn up in the credits, so I was wrong, edited. But it's a pre-existing franchise, so my guess is that it's pretty much on the level of a funding deal. Even Crunchyroll has done a few of those: thrown some bucks back at Japan to make some shows. Also this show did air on about 6 different TV stations in Japan before going to streaming, and if it was a Netflix exclusive, they wouldn't have been able to do that. So, the deal seems to be that Netflix threw some money into the pot, and in return they get the outside-Japan streaming rights. (if they made a Japanese anime and the Japanese fans couldn't watch it without paying Netflix, the Japanese fans would have ripped them a new asshole).

like I said, when you hear co-production then it usually implies there's more of an artistic input from both sides. For example, the OG Transformers cartoon was close to a co-production (USA and Japan), as was Seven, Mysterious Cities of Gold (France and Japan). Netflix are generally clever in how they license this stuff: don't fuck with the merchandise. So they've learned the lessons of some of the ham-fisted butchery of the source material that used to go on with these kinds of deals.
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Post by: Yoink on March 23, 2020, 07:52:06 am
My mother and I have been watching The English Game. It is actually rather excellent!
I have no real interest in football or its history, either, so I can only imagine the show would resonate even more with someone who was into that stuff, but, believe me, it's still plenty compelling either way. Can't go wrong with a good, well-made and well-acted period piece, really. Nicely nuanced characters, too - some of them may be cads at times but there aren't really any two-dimensional villains or what have you.   
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Post by: Iduno on March 23, 2020, 01:03:23 pm
It's not a show I am watching, but I have heard they are telling the contestants on the German version of Big Brother about the Coronavirus.

Now, if you were on a gameshow that kept you from knowing about the outside world for an extended period of time, what are the odds you would think they're building up to a zombie apocalypse fakeout?
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Post by: scriver on March 23, 2020, 01:24:13 pm
Hey I saw that movie, it was british
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Post by: Iduno on March 25, 2020, 07:51:34 pm
Aqua Teen Hunger Force is still hilarious. They even kind of solved a case once.


Edit: Also, it is important that those of you using light therapy claim to be a reverse vampire that craves the sun, and that your family comes from Tansylvania.
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Post by: scriver on March 26, 2020, 04:39:10 am
Hey I saw that movie, it was british

Googled it, it wasn't a movie it was a mini-series: Dead Set (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1285482/)

Wholly unremarkable, I remember it mostly because it was the first time I encountered the name "Pippa" which is a hilarious name because it is Swedish slang for fucking and I am a 12-year-old boy at heart
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Post by: Iduno on March 26, 2020, 07:54:06 am
The Picard show could have been great, but then they decided they needed to make what they did.

https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1242907914676908032 (https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1242907914676908032)


Edit: In their defense, it's still like the 3rd or 4th best tv show he's been Picard in (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6VpmjKZAs).
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Post by: martinuzz on March 26, 2020, 02:08:20 pm
I've been watching Criminal:UK, Criminal:Spain and some more Criminal: <insert country name>  on Netflix.
It's a nice take on a crime series. It's all about interrogation room psychology.
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Post by: Bumber on March 26, 2020, 03:25:51 pm
The Picard show could have been great, but then they decided they needed to make what they did.

https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1242907914676908032 (https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1242907914676908032)

"Picard S1E9: Not Again! Picard hit his head and believes he's been living in another simulation. Can the villagers convince him they're real in time for the fair?"
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Post by: Iduno on March 26, 2020, 03:53:31 pm
The Picard show could have been great, but then they decided they needed to make what they did.

https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1242907914676908032 (https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1242907914676908032)

"Picard S1E9: Not Again! Picard hit his head and believes he's been living in another simulation. Can the villagers convince him they're real in time for the fair?"

"An early frost freezes many of Picard's grapes. Luckily, he discovers ice wine is actually not that bad."
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Post by: Folly on March 27, 2020, 07:41:47 pm
Well, Picard has ended.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I kinda hope to see a spinoff/sequel, focused on the new captain whose name I never bothered to learn. Maybe with Deanna's daughter stowing away on his ship somehow. Vulcan ninja guy can come too, since he's got nothing to do now.
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Post by: Folly on March 28, 2020, 09:11:19 pm
I just finished watching Locke and Key Season 1.

This is a Netflix show about some kids who find a bunch of magical keys with suspiciously specific powers, and then get chased by a monster who wants the keys.
Unfortunately the story is full of plot holes and ridiculous coincidences, on top of the absurd premise. I'm going to call this one barely watchable.

Apparently Netflix has already greenlit two more seasons. I may or may not continue watching, depending on if anything else is on at the time.
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Post by: Yoink on March 28, 2020, 09:20:13 pm
I watched the first episode of Ozark season 3 yesterday!
Had to stop myself from watching more, since I've been excited for this for so long and I don't want to blitz through it and have to start waiting for a new season all over again. So far it's pretty bloody good, though one would expect nothing less.   
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Post by: delphonso on March 28, 2020, 11:05:47 pm
Put on Bojack Horseman for the first real time. I'm interested in the more serious episodes, but kind of lose interest in the goofy ones. The humor is like just on the line for me - sometimes hits but misses just as much.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on March 29, 2020, 12:35:00 am
There's humour in Bojack Horseman?
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on March 29, 2020, 01:22:26 am
I just finished watching Locke and Key Season 1.

This is a Netflix show about some kids who find a bunch of magical keys with suspiciously specific powers, and then get chased by a monster who wants the keys.
Unfortunately the story is full of plot holes and ridiculous coincidences, on top of the absurd premise. I'm going to call this one barely watchable.

Apparently Netflix has already greenlit two more seasons. I may or may not continue watching, depending on if anything else is on at the time.
It's actually based on a comic book
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Post by: Folly on March 29, 2020, 03:31:20 pm
Just finished watching The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina Season 3.

This show had a bit of a rough start, but has consistently gotten better since then. Season 3 introduced several new gods and their cults, greatly expanding upon the lore of the world and allowing the characters to explore some interesting new paths.

There's at least one more season on it's way, and I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by: Jopax on March 29, 2020, 03:35:38 pm
So this is a thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acTdxsoa428)
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Post by: Il Palazzo on March 29, 2020, 03:41:23 pm
So this is a thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acTdxsoa428)
Florida Man does Oklahoma, the series.
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Post by: Reelya on March 29, 2020, 08:13:43 pm
Watched some of Miraculous Ladybug. Basically it's a French Sailor Moon-inspired show, originally a co-production with Toei (the company behind Sailor Moon) in 2D, but switched to 3D, and the 3D is done pretty well. I'd recommend it for people who want something Sailor-Moon-ish but modern. Definitely a lot better than the Sailor Moon remakes.
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Post by: Eschar on March 29, 2020, 09:46:45 pm
Started Stranger Things
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Post by: Yoink on March 30, 2020, 11:58:33 pm
I watched the first episode of Ozark season 3 yesterday!
Had to stop myself from watching more, since I've been excited for this for so long and I don't want to blitz through it and have to start waiting for a new season all over again. So far it's pretty bloody good, though one would expect nothing less.   
This show is so fucking good. Funny to see Jason Bateman directing and starring in this and... well, if you've watched much of his stuff in the past and watch this, you'll see how it's kind of, I don't know, almost a culmination of his acting career and his usual kind of roles.   
I reckon it's up there with Breaking Bad and The Wire as one of the greatest crime dramas I've seen. It hits some similar notes to Breaking Bad at times, but from a very different angle. Also, characters you come to love (or hate, or even both) and lashings of some beautifully dark comedy here and there.   
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Post by: Folly on April 02, 2020, 02:57:54 pm
The Magicians has ended after 6 seasons.

I'm sad to see it go, but glad that I got to thoroughly enjoy every minute of this excellent show.  So long, Fillory.
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Post by: Iduno on April 02, 2020, 04:32:54 pm
Put on Bojack Horseman for the first real time. I'm interested in the more serious episodes, but kind of lose interest in the goofy ones. The humor is like just on the line for me - sometimes hits but misses just as much.

I don't remember any of the goofy ones, so they must have all been early.


The Magicians has ended after 6 seasons.

I'm sad to see it go, but glad that I got to thoroughly enjoy every minute of this excellent show.  So long, Fillory.

I was worried when I saw there was going to be a change in the cast, but it turns out they were just sort of spoiling their own show. It's nothing that would surprise anyone who had seen the last episode of the previous season, anyway.
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Post by: delphonso on April 02, 2020, 10:59:54 pm
Yeah, it's getting more regularly serious over time. Also getting harder to watch several in a row. Maybe those goofy episodes helped.
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Post by: Iduno on April 03, 2020, 08:44:20 am
Guess who figured out a way to relax? (https://www.misterrogers.org/watch/)

Mr. Rogers and chill.
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Post by: Reelya on April 03, 2020, 09:04:32 am
I still don't quite believe Mr Rogers is a real thing. It never aired here.
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Post by: Iduno on April 03, 2020, 09:13:20 am
I still don't quite believe Mr Rogers is a real thing. It never aired here.

Dude was also a minister (religious type) who preached that because all people were created by god, you must accept all people as they are. I've met so many of the crazy death-cult Christians that that is the toughest part to believe exists. Dude was awesome.
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Post by: Folly on April 03, 2020, 02:37:40 pm
Put on Bojack Horseman for the first real time. I'm interested in the more serious episodes, but kind of lose interest in the goofy ones. The humor is like just on the line for me - sometimes hits but misses just as much.
I don't remember any of the goofy ones, so they must have all been early.

All the goofy ones were early? Like, half of Season 5 was about a robot programmed for sexual harassment who somehow becomes the CEO of a major corporation.

RIP Henry Fondle.
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Post by: Iduno on April 03, 2020, 02:39:37 pm
Dammit Todd!
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Post by: Folly on April 16, 2020, 03:40:42 am
Just finished watching first season of Pennyworth, an origin story for Batman's butler.

It was okay. There were comically ridiculous villains, action-filled escapades, and violent cults turning the city inside-out amidst their struggle for power.
But ultimately it just felt like Batman-lite. No secret identity, no bat-gadgets, nothing to really help the show stand out.

Apparently it's been renewed, but I honestly don't know if I'll be watching more. Depends what else is on, I guess.
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Post by: Yoink on April 26, 2020, 12:32:14 am
Just watched the first episode of Giri/Haji.
I've seen enough to say with reasonable certainty that I dig it. Then again, sometimes shows have a great first episode and then go to pieces - but I doubt that will be the case here. Lots of style whilst staying grounded in realism, lashings of dry humour... can't go wrong, really. Now, if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go play some pachinko uh, I mean, watch another episode.   
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Post by: Yoink on April 30, 2020, 12:31:56 pm
I just watched the fourth episode of the third season of Community for the first time.
Not only have I finally seen the source of that classic gif - pretty much the only bit of the show I was familiar with beforehand - but that was an insanely good episode overall. I had been having doubts about the third season so far, but that episode filled me with glee.   

Oddly enough it was my mother who started watching this show. For some reason I always expected it to be utter crap, only to watch bits here and there and be forced to grudgingly admit that it is actually good, despite my stubborn attempts to dislike it anyway. It's Arrested Development all over again.
I think the shittiness (and inexplicable popularity) of Parks and Rec has made me automatically suspicious of all US ensemble cast sitcoms. Weird.   
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Post by: Iduno on April 30, 2020, 01:31:59 pm
I just watched the fourth episode of the third season of Community for the first time.
Not only have I finally seen the source of that classic gif - pretty much the only bit of the show I was familiar with beforehand - but that was an insanely good episode overall. I had been having doubts about the third season so far, but that episode filled me with glee.   

Oddly enough it was my mother who started watching this show. For some reason I always expected it to be utter crap, only to watch bits here and there and be forced to grudgingly admit that it is actually good, despite my stubborn attempts to dislike it anyway. It's Arrested Development all over again.
I think the shittiness (and inexplicable popularity) of Parks and Rec has made me automatically suspicious of all US ensemble cast sitcoms. Weird.   

Well, third season, huh? Sounds like you're done with Community forever then.
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Post by: Yoink on May 01, 2020, 04:41:48 am
I'm not sure what that means and I don't want to know.   


In other TV news, I just finished Giri/Haji! A fitting ending to a rather excellent show. There's probably only really one thing I kinda disliked about it and it is incredibly minor in the overall scheme of things. Oh, and said thing wasn't in the last episode - better clarify that before anyone thinks I'm knocking the finale.   
Not sure if the last episode was longer than the others, but they really fit a lot in.   
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Post by: TD1 on May 01, 2020, 05:02:10 am
Life on Mars
1973, what a year.
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Post by: scriver on May 01, 2020, 05:09:47 am
I remember Life on Mars. It was a good show.

Right now I'm watching season two of My Brilliant Friend. It's still great. Watch it.
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Post by: Yoink on May 04, 2020, 05:42:30 am
Y'know I was almost gonna put this in the Random Thoughts thread, but I think I just had an at least semi-genius idea.   
I haven't seen the final episodes of BoJack Horseman yet and I don't know how many of you have, so no spoilers, but I was thinking, if they decided to do a movie of it at some point it would be pretty awesome and/or meta if they made it, get this: a feature-length, in-universe film starring BoJack.

Obviously, as much as most of the films/shows/anything BoJack worked on throughout the series ended up being pretty ridiculous, that would likely only be funny for a short while. That's when the next part of the idea struck: in-character bonus features!   
Cast and crew commentary from BoJack and co, as well as outtakes and trailers and bloopers and bla bla bla all that shite I rarely if ever bother to so much as look at when it's included on a DVD or Blu-Ray. Think about it! I reckon they could do a lot with that.
Should I, like, pitch this to someone?   
   

Anyway, I'm going to get back to watching Community - I'm currently watching it from the start, since I saw just the first few episodes before bowing out and not really watching any more until I re-joined when my mother was well into the second season and I realised hey, maybe this show is worth my time after all.   
I'm afraid to say my like of this show has reached the point where I don't know how I will cope when it ends and I've watched all of it. I'm feeling traumatised already. Don't worry overmuch, though, I often get this way with shows, books, films etcetera that I really, really like, and I've survived all such experiences so far.   
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Post by: Iduno on May 04, 2020, 08:46:43 am
I remember Life on Mars. It was a good show.

It's a god-awful small affair?
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Post by: Yoink on May 08, 2020, 05:20:09 am
I am up to the final episode of Community.
They are apparently doing a live charity read on Sunday of an episode. Although I think it is one from Season 4 (so they could have everyone except Chevy Chase).
Oh, sweet! Moving the discussion here since I would rather not spray my enthusiasm all over the Sad thread.   
Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to 'attend' this. It's also kind of exciting to have so much of the cast back together - I know I'm new to this and therefore probably not as jaded as I should be, but who knows, maybe this could mean they'd all be on-board for a movie as well?
Apparently Donald Glover hadn't had anything to do with the show for a long time.   


The final episode actually turned to be really, really well done, in any case.   
It pretty much hit all the notes it needed to and brought things home just right. Perfect mix of the show's main elements, tugging on the heartstrings MY EMOTIONS, giving a satisfying amount of closure while also letting one imagine what might come next, and of course having plenty of the usual humour from what's left of the cast. Also, I recognised Justin Roiland's voice right away which was kind of a trip.
All in all, it was very bittersweet.   

Did not expect the finale to be anywhere near that good. Really softened the blow and let me down gently, y'know?   
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Post by: Reelya on May 08, 2020, 06:41:03 pm
I remember Life on Mars. It was a good show.

It's a god-awful small affair?

Yeah it is short. However keep in mind that there are two versions, a UK original and a US remake. So if you mean god-awful in terms of quality rather than "god awfully short" which version are you referring to?

The UK original went 16 episodes, but did come to a fairly concrete conclusion (as far as the main character is concerned). However the story continues in the follow up show Ashes to Ashes which runs for 24 episodes. Ashes to Ashes really does finalize any remaining questions for both seasons, so I'd recommend it to people who've seen the first one. So the UK version technically has 40 episodes (though each part features a different main character and time period).

The American version went 17 episodes, and probably doesn't come to any sort conclusion since I heard it wasn't picked up for a second season. So yes that one is short, and is probably actually god awful.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on May 08, 2020, 06:59:49 pm
I remember Life on Mars. It was a good show.

It's a god-awful small affair?

Yeah it is short. However keep in mind that there are two versions, a UK original and a US remake. So if you mean god-awful in terms of quality rather than "god awfully short" which version are you referring to?

The UK original went 16 episodes, but did come to a fairly concrete conclusion (as far as the main character is concerned). However the story continues in the follow up show Ashes to Ashes which runs for 24 episodes. Ashes to Ashes really does finalize any remaining questions for both seasons, so I'd recommend it to people who've seen the first one. So the UK version technically has 40 episodes (though each part features a different main character and time period).

The American version went 17 episodes, and probably doesn't come to any sort conclusion since I heard it wasn't picked up for a second season. So yes that one is short, and is probably actually god awful.
Two versions? There are at least SIX versions
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Post by: Reelya on May 08, 2020, 07:02:20 pm
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<life on mars etc>
Two versions? There are at least SIX versions

Yeah, but those aren't all titled identically so an English-speaking audience isn't likely to get those mixed up. Nobody is likely to go "oh I thought you meant the Czech version: Svět pod hlavou". So yes it's technically correct that there are more spin-off shows, however the main need for clarification of discussion is between the UK vs US identically-titled versions. So I have no idea which of those two versions Iduno was referring to but I can be sure it wasn't Svět pod hlavou.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on May 08, 2020, 07:02:56 pm
Sounds like you're hooked to the silver screen.
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Post by: Eschar on May 08, 2020, 11:34:32 pm
I have begun watching Person of Interest. My opinion was "kind of interesting, but meh" (despite Ben Linus Michael Emerson's presence.) And then I watched S1E9 ("Get Carter") and for some reason this changed at the moment I watched Detective Carter stare down an approaching car. (It might also have to do with the fact that this episode appears to be where bits of overarching plot/intrigue start being woven in.)
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Post by: scriver on May 09, 2020, 07:52:54 am
I watched some episodes of early PoI and it seemed boring, so I dropped it.

Then eventually I watched some sparsely separated later episodes as the show went on and they all felt like episodes of a series that might have been interesting if I had followed it up to that point so I had any actual idea of what the duck was going on and who these people were
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Post by: Yoink on May 11, 2020, 04:33:20 am
I'm watching Glow, since I gave it a look after reading somewhere that it stars one of the main actors from Community.   
I'd never given it a second glance before, but a quick read of a synopsis revealed it was decidedly not what I thought - and, after having watched a few episodes, it's actually pretty great in a rather unusual way.
Very slow-paced but still funny, laugh-out-loud funny at times, as well as being very solidly set in the '80s to the point that I feel like describing it as a period piece. Also it has plenty of drama and, you know, meaningful shit. Also a fascinating glimpse at pro wrestling history.   

Right now I had to pause it because something ridiculous is about to happen, well, ridiculous in a believable way... you know that feeling in shows like Curb Your Enthusiasm, where something so embarrassing goes down that you can barely bear to watch, even as funny as it is? Yeah I reckon this is gonna be like that. Might have to cover my eyes and peek through my fingers.



Edit: just finished the first season. It was great. That is all.   
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Post by: Yoink on May 17, 2020, 04:42:56 am
Okay, I just finished the second season of GLOW and it has officially made me cry.   


Edit: this show just keeps getting better. I'm glad to see that there is another season planned!
Not that I've finished the current ones, mind you. Just watched episode six of the third season. Gonna try to pace myself and not jump straight into the next.   

Edit two: man, I just adore the relationship between Character A and Character B. I mean, pretty much all the characters are lovable (or loathsome) and entertaining in the extreme, but y'know.   
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Post by: Folly on May 24, 2020, 03:56:21 am
I finally got around to watching the third and final season of Future Man.
Overall, this was a very enjoyable edgy time-travel comedy. Solid ending too.
Definitely one I'd recommend.
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Post by: Jopax on May 24, 2020, 07:00:45 am
Shit there's a third one now? I haven't gotten around to the second one even :C
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Post by: Yoink on May 29, 2020, 09:00:13 pm
So, Steve Carell's Space Force dropped last night. Only watched two (?) episodes but I rather like it so far!   
Has a ridiculous number of actors I recognise, too. Some of which might surprise you if you go in blind, like I did.   



I've also started watching Detectorists, an oft-overlooked show that's been gathering dust (one could even say buried) on Netflix for years now, but it turns out it's quite a hidden gem, at least in my opinion. At first glance the characters just seemed so sad and lame that I couldn't bear to watch very much, but now that I've gone back to it I rather appreciate their hopeless awkwardness. They and their issues feel real and believable, not like the exaggerated lameness one often sees from an awkward/nerdy character on a sitcom or whatever.

Also, the soundtrack is fantastic. A lovely, apt theme song to tickle the ears at the end of each episode, and as a bonus the singer of said song actually made a cameo, to perform it at a local pub's open-mic night on the show. I thought that was a really nice touch.   


Oh, I also watched an episode of Babylon Berlin, which I've neglected to take a proper look at before, and surprisingly enough it seems quite good.
Didn't think it'd be up my alley, for some reason. Too early to say for sure, though.   
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Post by: Il Palazzo on May 30, 2020, 05:05:51 am
What do you like in Space Force, specifically? The reviewers are being very meh about it.
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Post by: Yoink on May 30, 2020, 07:28:02 pm
Hmmm, tough question. I'm not much of a reviewer.   
Basically, it's, uh, well... it's funny? It has a good ensemble cast of characters who are fun in their own way, then just when you're getting used to them you get a whole heap of bonus entertainment when these various characters interact with others they don't usually deal with.   
The plot is for the most part at least somewhat grounded in believability, occasionally becoming quite ridiculous for a moment but never so much as to overly strain my suspension of disbelief. Then again, I've never been on a space base and normally have little interest in such things, so perhaps if one was a big nerd for all that space-stuff they would find such shenanigans annoying? Maybe it's like Big Bang Theory, but mocking the spacemans instead of, well, basically anyone non-neurotypical?       

I think the most likely reason folks dislike it, though, is that they had very different expectations.   
I'm not much of a Steve Carell fan, normally (though of course he has the occasional good role, just don't expect me to list more than, say, one of them), and I've never gotten into the US version of The Office (or the original for that matter), so I quite like his performance - but maybe to fans of him or his previous shows he seems overly subdued and they were hoping for more zany comedy?   
Who knows. I think he does pretty great, here.

Also amidst the subtle (?) mockery of the current US leadership they also had a mild dig at AOC and no doubt various other public figures who were less easily recognisable to a foreigner like myself, so maybe folks be triggered. *shrug*   


This has become a bit of an essay, somehow. I guess this is what happens when I try and answer things this soon after waking up.     
Hopefully it makes some kind of sense.   

Edit: I should probably mention the good cast again, too. Lots of familiar faces in wildly varied roles.   
Some of its pacing may be kind of weird/unusual, but I think I've gotten used to it after a few episodes.   
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Post by: Folly on June 05, 2020, 09:27:54 pm
I just finished watching Devs, a show about some tech-nerds trying to break the universe.

Overall quality of the show is high. Good music, good visuals, good acting, good dialogue. It does come across as fairly pretentious, which may be a turnoff for some.

After 8 episodes the show gets a nice conclusion to wrap everything up, so it's a safe watch for those who don't like cliffhangers or ambiguous endings.
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Post by: Folly on June 24, 2020, 08:30:38 pm
Finished the first season of Space Force.

Humor was pretty weak in the early episodes, but gradually got better and the last few episodes had me laughing out loud a few times. Story was barely interesting enough to keep me going.

The season ended on a pretty significant cliffhanger and a second season has not yet been confirmed. For this reason alone I cannot recommend the show at this time.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on June 30, 2020, 04:31:05 pm
i'm watching kingdom. Its a Korean tv series about a zombie outbreak in medieval Korea, and actually pretty good.

As a sidenote: I love Korean hats. I bet they have anti zombie and anti covid19 properties

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Post by: Il Palazzo on June 30, 2020, 05:37:48 pm
I've been seeing it recommended by Netflix's algorithm, but assumed it was yet another mediocre historical soap opera. I had never even realised it has zombies.
But hey, it really is kinda good. So far, at least. So thanks for the recommendation.

And those hats, mate. They all look like Quakers doing Van Helsing cosplay (hurr durr funny foreign culture hurr durr, I know, sue me).

Also, what the hell is with those doors all breaking at the hinges so easily?
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Post by: scriver on July 01, 2020, 05:03:16 am
Medieval Korea had mandated breakaway doors for all buildings. Fire safety regulations, you know.

Also I love that Korean hats are called nips. For what is the hat if not a nipple for your head?
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 01, 2020, 05:06:36 am
I think they called gats?
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 02, 2020, 07:29:14 pm
As an addenum: Kingdom is Game of Thrones done right and streamlined.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on July 02, 2020, 07:38:26 pm
Eh, it kinda fell apart for me, a few episodes in. I guess, when the novelty wore off the silliness started to shine through. The aforementioned door hinges turned out to be a harbinger of things to come - events happening because the plot needs them to, not because of logic and reason.
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Post by: McTraveller on July 02, 2020, 07:50:57 pm
I think mainstream media pans Space Force because it treats all sides of the political spectrum with the same irreverence - it doesn't exonerate either of them.  For that alone I found the show interesting.  The speech about oranges to Congress was awesome.

Wife and I have been watching Schitt's Creek as a low-stress comedic escape.  It fills the bill nicely, although season 3 so far is a little slower than the first 2.
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Post by: Yoink on July 03, 2020, 09:25:22 am
Yeah, most of the disapproving critical reviews I saw were basically just bleating about how it's "too soon" or some rubbish. Whatever happened to topical comedy? Is that not a thing that's acceptable anymore, even when it's as tame as Space Force?   
I agree that its even-handed mockery was pretty neat. I'm hoping there'll be another season, though judging by its commercial success I'm not too worried.   

Oh, uh, TV shows, well... I've watched a few more episodes of Babylon Berlin, still not really sure what I think of it. The setting's pretty cool, at least, especially with all the wild swing dancing that apparently went on in pre-WW2 Berlin. There isn't exactly a surplus of characters for one to relate to or give a toss about, however, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.   
There are also at least a couple of other shows that I was watching but have kind of been distracted from (Detectorists, Mortel) for a while, but I've just started watching a pretty long-running British show called Skins, about a bunch of disgusting, randy, British teenagers (I think?), basically. Lots of rude and raunchy comedy, but it's clever about it rather than just going for shock/gross-out value.   
Probably more shows I'm forgetting. I've been watching more movies lately.   

I watched the fourth season of F Is For Family, too, of course. It was great. Bit of a slow start, maybe, but it was great.   
Lots of character development, heel-face turns (and vice-versa), triumphs, failures, dirty underpants and yuks.   
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Post by: Yoink on July 06, 2020, 02:56:31 am
Yesterday I was at a (flea) market (yeah, I'm surprised that such things are running again, too, but there's a negligible amount of COVID cases around here so the panic has pretty much died down) and found the first season of Justified, something I've been meaning to watch for quite some time, for five bucks on DVD.   

I've watched about, say four episodes so far? Honestly, I'm not sure what to think. It certainly isn't what I expected.   
My expectations were fairly vague, but from what little I'd read about it I expected a gritty, atmospheric look into the tribulations of life and crime in those little opiod- and unemployment-stricken 'rust belt' towns it's so fascinating to read about in North America, with Timothy Olyphant playing against type (for me, at least, since I've only seen him in Santa Clarita Diet and some dramedy with Jason Bateman where he played a kindly former football star with a head injury) as a hard-ass US marshal/fashion victim, but it seems like it's more like... I don't know, a bite-sized Carl Hiaasen novel in every episode?

Giving me some Longmire vibes, too, but I think that's mostly due to the main character wearing a cowboy hat and perhaps something to do with the production values. Still entertaining enough, but not nearly as dark and thoughtful as I'd expected. So far, at least.
Bear in mind, this is only the first season, though I don't know how many there were?   
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Post by: Jopax on July 13, 2020, 06:57:26 am
Just a quick PSA for those that weren't following stuff, third season of Dark came out a couple of weeks ago.

Shit is still great.

That is all.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 13, 2020, 10:54:50 pm
Wstching Merlin (2008) out of boredom and I have this beef. Why (I'll spoil it in case anyone cares

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Yoink on July 13, 2020, 11:08:06 pm
I seem to remember a lot of dumb shit going down in that show, haha. Used to watch that on channel ten waaaaay back when free-to-air TV was still a thing my family bothered with. I mean, the TV does still turn on automatically in the mornings, but other than that.   
Everyone else is kinda supposed to be dumb, but then Merlin is just as bad half the time.   



Anyway, I've been watching more Skins. It's pretty damn good. Also watched a couple of Spanish-language shows with my mother, The Unremarkable Juanqini (I probably spelled that wrong) and some spin-off of that Club de Cuervos show (which neither of us have watched) called The Ballad of Hugo Sanchez. It was actually pretty funny.   
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Post by: dragdeler on July 14, 2020, 02:13:25 am
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Post by: Iduno on July 14, 2020, 09:12:09 am
Why is everyone in Camelot such a frigging idiot, including the title character?

They needs some sort of plot, which needs conflict. So either the Hollywood writers need to come up with smart characters, and someone who can outsmart them, or they can write what they know.
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Post by: scriver on July 14, 2020, 09:23:34 am
"Spiders are the fiercest predators in the insect kingdom"
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Post by: Naturegirl1999 on July 14, 2020, 12:32:28 pm
Thank you Eschar, for recommending Person of Interest. Am on season 3 right now
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Post by: Eschar on July 16, 2020, 12:56:07 pm
Thank you Eschar, for recommending Person of Interest. Am on season 3 right now

Yay! I last watched "Beta" from season 3, if you're further please don't spoil anything for me :)

What do you think of the show?
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Post by: Naturegirl1999 on July 16, 2020, 12:59:45 pm
Thank you Eschar, for recommending Person of Interest. Am on season 3 right now

Yay! I last watched "Beta" from season 3, if you're further please don't spoil anything for me :)

What do you think of the show?
I love it. Not enough shows have AI as the hero. Too many see AIs as villains.
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Post by: Eschar on July 16, 2020, 01:01:29 pm
Thank you Eschar, for recommending Person of Interest. Am on season 3 right now

Yay! I last watched "Beta" from season 3, if you're further please don't spoil anything for me :)

What do you think of the show?
I love it. Not enough shows have AI as the hero.

"God was born 11 years ago on a New Year's Day in Manhattan." - Root
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Post by: Folly on July 19, 2020, 08:40:58 pm
I finished watching the two current seasons of The Order. It's a show about werewolves and blood-mages sharing a college campus.

First season was a bit rough, with the main focus being on 'OMG magic and monsters!' which they didn't seem to have the budget to make particularly visually impressive. Second season really picked up though, shifting the emphasis to the various characters and factions and their interactions.

Overall, definitely enjoying this series and looking forward to more.
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Post by: Eschar on July 19, 2020, 08:53:15 pm
 there's nothing here
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Post by: Biowraith on July 20, 2020, 01:41:21 am
Oh man, I'd forgotten about Person of Interest.  It was a little unremarkable to start with, but I really enjoyed it once it got going.

Don't think I ever managed to catch the final season, so I guess that's on the list of things to do.

I've been re-watching Fringe, which I also really enjoy.
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Post by: Yoink on July 20, 2020, 05:12:23 am
I finished season two of Skins. Uh, it's really great and all of course, but just... feels.   
Lots of them. :'(   


Also I've been watching some daft Colombian show with my mother, which was mildly entertaining despite being somewhat lame, but I think the last episode has finally bested my considerable powers of suspension of disbelief. Don't think I'll be able to watch any more - at least, not without loudly deriding it all the while, which would probably annoy the other person watching to no end.
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Post by: Eschar on July 20, 2020, 11:41:08 pm
Noticed an anomaly while watching Person of Interest. I've been listening to the POI soundtrack, and recently came across the track If-Then-Else. And I just heard it while watching the show... but not during the much later and, I collect, rather spoilery episode called If-Then-Else. During S4E7, Honor Among Theives. Odd.

If you have an explanation or comments, no spoilers for S4E7 or anything after it please!

EDIT: and just heard "Deus Ex Machina"... but not during the season 3 finale Deus Ex Machina.
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Post by: rickumali on July 22, 2020, 06:13:00 am
I've been watching "Midnight Diner: Tokyo Stories" on Netflix (US). Quirky stories indeed...  :)
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Post by: Folly on August 01, 2020, 08:53:19 am
Season 2 of The Umbrella Academy is here!

I'm only halfway through, but so far it is as good or possibly better than the first season. Absolutely love this show~


Edit:
Finished the second season. My only minor complaint is that thematically it was pretty much identical to the first season, with each character getting their own episode as they rush to save the world from an apocalypse of their own making. The only real originality was a few plot twists, which were only explored just far enough to leave us wondering where these new elements will go next season.
I really didn't mind the recycled meta-plot however, because the minute-to-minute action and drama just flowed so perfectly that I was held captivated the whole season.
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Post by: Eschar on August 11, 2020, 12:06:45 am
Finished Person of Interest.
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Post by: Folly on August 11, 2020, 08:31:01 pm
Stargirl recently finished it's first season.
It's a DC superhero show that is basically a Justice League but made up mostly of teenage girls.

A bit of bad acting, a lot of bad scripting, some stupid plot holes, and a meta-plot that left me honestly siding with the villains and feeling disappointed when they were inevitably thwarted.
Overall, it's fairly watchable, if not particularly memorable. I'm only going to recommend this one if you're really into superhero stuff or have nothing better on your watch-list.


Also been watching The Last Kingdom lately.
I'm halfway through the 4 current seasons, and really enjoying this one.

It reminds me strongly of History channel's show Vikings. Vikings are invading England(or wtfever their names are in this time period, I can never keep it straight), and there's a balance of large-scale sword and shield battles next to interpersonal drama between kings and warlords. Where that other show spread it's cast too wide and made it difficult to care about any one character, I'm finding The Last Kingdom to be much more focused and therefore interesting. Would recommend.
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Post by: scriver on August 12, 2020, 04:40:18 am
England is the right word, though it wasn't united into England yet.

However I must advice against The Last Kindgom as it does not feature my pregenitor Dragon-In-The-Eye and and thus inferior
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on August 13, 2020, 06:36:29 pm
King dragon sends his regards
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DN9DW4rrEjY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLCn9WJNbBqkLiSZLi6_X7ONO1KTvg)
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Post by: Yoink on September 08, 2020, 03:03:37 am
Apparently there's a Dragon's Dogma TV show coming out next week.   
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Post by: Yoink on September 08, 2020, 07:59:46 am
It's kind of a goofy cheesefest whose acting is a mixed bag, but after struggling through the first episode of Cobra Kai at a friend's semi-recommendation, episode two got me HYPED AS HECK right from the start. I mean, it's still a goofy cheesefest with some seriously questionable acting at times, but the premise is just so oddly exciting and I think they're starting to really pull it off. Things are really falling into place.   

Just gotta remember not to take it too seriously, I guess.   
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Post by: Caz on September 08, 2020, 09:02:14 am
been watching Killjoys. I dunno how almost no one has heard of this show since it seems like a cross between Firefly and epic space battle sci-fi. Maybe because the first season takes a while to get going, but once it does :X

I guess the worldbuilding could put people off though. The storylines move so fast and the first time it's hard to catch who is working for each faction nevermind all the layers under that. Not like in a show based on books where it's a lot easier to take in the exposition before you watch, it kinda just throws you in at the deep end.
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Post by: scriver on September 08, 2020, 09:07:47 am
Huh I hadn't heard of that at all. And it's on hbo too

I guess I'll have to check it out

(also hello caz)
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Post by: Ulfarr on September 08, 2020, 09:42:59 am
It's kind of a goofy cheesefest whose acting is a mixed bag, but after struggling through the first episode of Cobra Kai at a friend's semi-recommendation, episode two got me HYPED AS HECK right from the start. I mean, it's still a goofy cheesefest with some seriously questionable acting at times, but the premise is just so oddly exciting and I think they're starting to really pull it off. Things are really falling into place.   

Just gotta remember not to take it too seriously, I guess.   

And here I came wanting to write about it. I started watching it because I was bored and ended up binging both seasons in the same day. Maybe it was just the fatigue from watching it in one go but I find the first season to be the better one, mainly because the focus is more on the characters' development and their day to day struggles instead of their "karate based rivalries".

I also have to say that I really like the (main) characters, they aren't the regular clear cut bad or good guys, they feel quite realistic with their ideals and their pitfalls.

Special mention for the character of Amanda LaRusso (Daniel's wife), which to my knowledge, is the best depiction of a wife/strong woman in modern media. She is smart, supportive, loving, successful and doesn't take nonsense from anyone (including her husband). And all that without the plague of having to scream "girl power", cause she doesn't have to prove that she is strong. She IS strong.
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Post by: Caz on September 08, 2020, 01:20:24 pm
Huh I hadn't heard of that at all. And it's on hbo too

I guess I'll have to check it out

(also hello caz)


hello :) how is scriver?

dunno if you've ever seen Orphan Black, Killjoys is by the same producers.
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Post by: Jopax on September 08, 2020, 05:35:13 pm
Raised by Wolves is looking kinda interesting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAg6RTQEfeM)
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 08, 2020, 05:38:41 pm
Kinda does, but in the same way Prometheus did.
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Post by: scriver on September 08, 2020, 05:50:32 pm
Huh I hadn't heard of that at all. And it's on hbo too

I guess I'll have to check it out

(also hello caz)


hello :) how is scriver?

dunno if you've ever seen Orphan Black, Killjoys is by the same producers.

Oh you know same as always steady pains

I haven't seen that either, was it good too?


Raised by Wolves is looking kinda interesting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAg6RTQEfeM)

Kinda does, but in the same way Prometheus did.

I didn't see Noomi Rapace anywhere in it
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Post by: Jopax on September 08, 2020, 05:55:22 pm
It is kinda funny how they fail to mention Prometheus in that list of movies he's done.
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Post by: Reelya on September 08, 2020, 06:42:55 pm
In the trailer? They don't mention Blade Runner either. I wouldn't think that not mentioning Prometheus is notable here.
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Post by: Yoink on September 10, 2020, 11:54:53 pm
Special mention for the character of Amanda LaRusso (Daniel's wife), which to my knowledge, is the best depiction of a wife/strong woman in modern media. She is smart, supportive, loving, successful and doesn't take nonsense from anyone (including her husband). And all that without the plague of having to scream "girl power", cause she doesn't have to prove that she is strong. She IS strong.
She is pretty damn great. I'm almost at the end of the first season.   
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
   

It's a shame to think the second season might not be as good, but I'll make my own judgement when I get there.   
The first one has already been well worth the price of admittance.   
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Post by: Ulfarr on September 11, 2020, 12:28:00 am
Yeah that scene of hers, was one of my favorites.

I didn't meant to discourage anyone from watching the second season. It's still a good one  :D
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 20, 2020, 05:49:09 pm
Hey, is anyone watching Raised by Wolves? It's all the good and bad of Prometheus, in TV format.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on September 20, 2020, 07:36:34 pm
I'm... liking it a lot? Beginning is slow in season 1 (I'd say the first two episodes are just laying the foundation) but it builds momentum fast afterwards.

I liked season 2 too. There are unexpected complexity layers to the characters
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 20, 2020, 07:44:42 pm
What? The first season is only just streaming now.
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Post by: Yoink on September 20, 2020, 11:15:43 pm
Clearly he was referring to Cobra Kai. No mercy!       


Speaking of, I loved the second season too. Also the third one comes out next year sometime. Get hype.   
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on September 27, 2020, 04:26:10 am
Watching "the gift". Its a turkish "twin peaks" of sorts
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Post by: Folly on September 28, 2020, 09:04:50 am
Hey, is anyone watching Raised by Wolves? It's all the good and bad of Prometheus, in TV format.

I've been watching Raised by Wolves. Only halfway through the first season, but definitely hooked.

Premise is great. Believers and Atheists went to war, Believers pulled out an army of super deadly androids and were well on their way to wiping out the Atheists, then the apocalypse came along to wipe them both out. Before the end, both sides sent Arks to a new world to repopulate, and now these last vestiges of humanity are struggling to survive amongst each other and a deadly environment.

Special effects are flashy when they need to be, and sleekly stylish the rest of the time. Theme music is somber and poignant. Actors are all excellent. Everything about this show is really top-notch. Would recommend.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 28, 2020, 10:32:30 am
I mean, it's kinda cringy too.
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Post by: Yoink on October 05, 2020, 07:21:44 am
Couple days ago I started watching Orange Is the New Black, probably since some Netflix documentary in a similar setting made me think of it.   
I'd always been under the impression that it was a really niche kind of a show and probably just overwhelmingly unpleasant, but I'm actually rather enjoying it. Definitely a pleasant surprise. Also it has seven friggin' seasons at this point, so assuming it doesn't abruptly go to shit like some shows do I will have plenty to keep myself entertained for some time.   
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Post by: Ulfarr on October 05, 2020, 08:48:15 am
Started watching the "The 100" on netflix.

The show starts with humanity having bombed itself to (almost) extinction and with what's left of them living in some space station orbiting Earth. The life support there is failing and they try to get back to Earth only to find that some humans have survived there and are now savages and they don't like them...yadda yadda yadda. So far the show isn't anything spectacular or mind blowing but it's decent enough to pass a couple of hours at a time.

Spoiler: minor spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on October 05, 2020, 11:48:10 am
Ah yes The 100, equal parts bad writing, good characters, and pure cheese--just wait til you get to the later seasons lol
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Post by: Ulfarr on October 05, 2020, 12:33:17 pm
It gets worse doesn't it?  :o :o  :D

It's true about the characters, some of the stuff they do is questionable (if not stupid) but they are usually good enough to pick up the slack from the bad writing.
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Post by: Yoink on October 08, 2020, 08:17:28 pm
Couple days ago I started watching Orange Is the New Black, probably since some Netflix documentary in a similar setting made me think of it.   
I'd always been under the impression that it was a really niche kind of a show and probably just overwhelmingly unpleasant, but I'm actually rather enjoying it. Definitely a pleasant surprise. Also it has seven friggin' seasons at this point, so assuming it doesn't abruptly go to shit like some shows do I will have plenty to keep myself entertained for some time.   
I am up to the final episode of season two and I have to say, I really undersold it here.   
This show is actually fantastic. Pretty much all the characters are total onions, some of them somehow managing to dance a jig of heel-face and face-heel turns until they seem both a heel and a face at the same time. Its funniest moments really sneak up on you most of the time, which makes them so much better - I literally laughed 'til I cried at one point. Also there's this one line that really resonated with me, "I'm not an alcoholic, I'm Australian!".   

Quite a few good songs (not the theme song), too, especially in the end credits. Gonna have to look some of them up.   



Edit: okay, after three full seasons I think the show's quality has finally hit a noticeable decline with the fourth.   
'Twas a good innings, right? Still, I'm only two episodes in, so maybe it will pick back up. Also, why does this thread not see more activity? I couldn't bring myself to double-post, since my previous post was so recent already.   
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Post by: scriver on October 18, 2020, 07:20:29 am
I just finished watching the first season of the Night Manager last night. It was pretty good. Most of it's enjoyability comes from the actors being who they are though. Loki infiltrating the business empire of Dr House is a great premise.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on October 18, 2020, 09:08:50 am
I enjoyed The Night Manager immensely. It was tight, expertly crafted, and moving along with a sense of purpose. IMO one of the best series out there, period.
But for me, having Laurie as House (and his comedic personae, perhaps more so) in the back of my mind was distracting. Subconsciously expecting some irreverent quip would occasionally undermine the intended sense of dread. For some reason Loki wasn't that much of an issue.
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Post by: Yoink on October 23, 2020, 08:05:43 am
Just finished the second-last season of Orange Is the New Black. Damn.   
Season 5 was a little bit silly at times (although some of that is understandable due to the subject matter), but season 6 was good, despite the loss of a whole heap of established characters. Maybe it didn't amaze me as much as the earlier seasons, but I enjoyed it, and it worked slowly but surely towards a dang fantastic ending. That's a truly great season finale there, by any show's standards.   


Now, I've heard that the seventh and final season is crap, but I've heard various people say bad things about different seasons and none of 'em have really proven true so far, in my opinion. In any case I'll probably take a break to digest the one I just finished.   
And then, of course, there's that dread sensation of knowing you're near the end of the show and its stories, and that it's anyone's guess whether you'll find anything new to watch that's anywhere near as good... mind you, I feel that way pretty much every time I like a show enough to finish the whole thing, but y'know. Still sad.   
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Post by: Il Palazzo on October 25, 2020, 06:38:59 pm
There's an interesting, uh, sports drama(?) on Netflix - The Queen's Gambit.
As its backbone it has a solid - if sometimes soapy - coming of age story embellished with great cinematography and well-captured period. What's impressive is how it manages to keep one's involvement over seven hours of what's essentially people thinking at each other real hard, in a way that feels natural, exciting, and mostly free of cliches. Apart from the last episode - that one falls back on tropes a bit too readily. I suppose in an effort to provide a sense of closure.
Very bingeable. Quite digestible. Probably not terribly memorable. A good way to spend an evening or two.
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Post by: Folly on November 14, 2020, 12:35:56 am
After 15 years of battling the Supernatural, the Winchester boys have finally driven off into the sunset.
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Post by: Caz on November 15, 2020, 01:53:31 pm
Just finished the second-last season of Orange Is the New Black. Damn.   
Season 5 was a little bit silly at times (although some of that is understandable due to the subject matter), but season 6 was good, despite the loss of a whole heap of established characters. Maybe it didn't amaze me as much as the earlier seasons, but I enjoyed it, and it worked slowly but surely towards a dang fantastic ending. That's a truly great season finale there, by any show's standards.   


Now, I've heard that the seventh and final season is crap, but I've heard various people say bad things about different seasons and none of 'em have really proven true so far, in my opinion. In any case I'll probably take a break to digest the one I just finished.   
And then, of course, there's that dread sensation of knowing you're near the end of the show and its stories, and that it's anyone's guess whether you'll find anything new to watch that's anywhere near as good... mind you, I feel that way pretty much every time I like a show enough to finish the whole thing, but y'know. Still sad.   

I don't think it was *bad*, but it's pretty depressing and really different from the beginning of the show which was basically a comedy. But I get why they decided to get political about it. A lot of people wanted it to wrap up with happy endings for all but given that it's a tv show about prison it's just not gonna happen.
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Post by: Folly on December 19, 2020, 09:06:37 pm
The Expanse is back with season 5! First 3 episodes are available now.
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Post by: Vector on December 19, 2020, 11:28:25 pm
Rewatching Community. Not quite as funny as the first time, still funny enough. Heard Dark, on the Netflix, is good.
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Post by: Caz on December 20, 2020, 07:12:01 am
The Expanse is back with season 5! First 3 episodes are available now.

Swithering whether to watch or wait until more episodes are out.

Same with Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) season 4, which is weekly release now. How the hell they're going to finish all the material in one season...
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Post by: Yoink on January 04, 2021, 12:26:17 am
I momentarily forgot about its January 1st release date, but yesterday (the 3rd) I finally sat down to watch season three of Cobra Kai - after chucking on the Cobra Kai shirt I bought from Wish of course, haha.   
It is good, as expected. Dials up the cheese at times almost to the point that you can't take it seriously, but stays there walking the fine line where in still remains in "strangely awesome" territory. It's like some kind of magic. Sadly, though, there are only ten short episodes and I've already watched, like, seven before I forced myself to stop and save some.   

Pretty sure production of the next season is already underway, but still. Guess I'll be back to scrounging for other series to watch before long - or perhaps I could go back for a rewatch from the very beginnings? Could be fun.


Oh, and I'm still waiting to receive a better copy of Snowfall season two. I re-watched the first season, then made a start on the second which was going well, but just when things started ramping up in a big way I became unable to source working subtitles. Ugh.   
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on January 19, 2021, 11:00:22 am
Watched Alice in Borderland, the show is really, really fun. Watched Peaky Blinders and ditto, but I lost interest after the Russian season. McMafia is also a bloody treat, because I'm a sucker for people inheriting positions of grand responsibility where they're totally out of their depth
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on February 10, 2021, 08:35:53 pm
I finished watching Sabrina season 4.

Overall pretty good. Lots of worldbuilding and character development, despite a slightly tedious monster-of-the-week vibe.
I really disliked the ending though. MC dies, slowly, to minor injuries. A family full of witches who don't even try to heal her, through magic or otherwise. Necromancers in her family, and they don't make any effort to bring her back, after going to ridiculous lengths for her throughout the season. And then her boyfriend, whom she barely had a relationship with, commits suicide so that he can join her in Heaven. Yeah, there's a lot that doesn't track in that ending.

Season 4 was the last, with Netflix giving the show the axe. Apparently they intend to continue the story in comic book form, but I'm just not interested enough to keep following through the transition.


I also finished binging the current 2.5 seasons of American Gods.
Nobody warned me there would be erect penises.  :-[

The premise is that gods are created, empowered and sustained by human faith and sacrifice. America has brought new ideas related to technology and media, thus creating new gods associated with these ideas. But the old gods are not content to simply fade into obscurity, and thus a war of the gods begins. And of course such a story would not be complete without hapless mortals getting screwed over on a cosmic scale. Throw in a few demigods for good measure, because there's always at least one god in every pantheon who can't keep it in his pants.

The first season had a lot of little side stories about various gods and the people affected by them; some of which tied in to the main story, others just exist to fill time. I really appreciated these stories, though I can see how some might find them an unwelcome distraction from the main plot. These mini-stories are mostly gone from seasons two and three, for better or for worse.

The plot twists are predictable, especially if you come in with previous knowledge of the gods and their ways. Fairly enjoyable to see the pieces fall into place anyway.

I've enjoyed this show, but I'm somewhat worried about it's fate after losing several of the biggest actors between seasons 2 and 3. The gods can change their faces, so it's not too difficult for the writers to accommodate. But they lost a lot of popular talent, and I'm not entirely confident that the replacements will hold up.
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Post by: RoseHeart on February 20, 2021, 07:34:55 am
WandaVision...

Man do I hate seeing the credits pop up, can definitely respect those that wait. Though the weekly format does offer a lot of fun in terms of speculation. Overall I prefer it! (But I'll be excited to have the whole season at my fingertips too)

WestWorld...

Been going back to this. Life distracted me from going very far so I am giving it another go. Can't wait to see how it unfolds.

The Expanse...

The little show that could. It doesn't seem particularly ambitious from scene to scene, but in culmination it tells a grand story, and the characters go through so much...  Fun scifi.

Resident Alien...

What a fun comedy show. Most lose my interest but I am always eager to see next week's episode. I hear it will have Linda Hamilton. SOO looking forward to that. She was one of the better elements in the luke warm Terminator: Dark Fate, so I look forward to seeing what see can do with a subversive show for the serious general she'll be portraying.
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Post by: Vector on February 20, 2021, 06:02:16 pm
Atlanta, Season Two. I'm excited to have it after about three years of waiting for the DVD to be at the library in my area.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on March 01, 2021, 03:46:42 am
I finished watching Your Honor.

It's basically Breaking Bad. Malcolm's dad stumbles into a precariously illegal situation and then keeps digging himself in deeper, with lots of dramatic close calls.
But unlike Breaking Bad, this one ends after 1 season with lots of loose threads left dangling. It's a fun ride, but hard to recommend after that conclusion.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Caz on March 01, 2021, 03:55:24 am
I started watching Superstore. It's dumb but I like it. Basically a tv show about the people working in Walmart, getting up to !zany! hijinks.
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Post by: Jopax on March 15, 2021, 11:45:04 am
Let's talk WandaVision!

At first I didn't much care for it, like I mostly stopped caring about MCU stuff after Endgame because it felt like a bigass story was just done with all the proper sendoffs and whatnot, only for them to turn around and milk it some more, except without most of the compelling characters. Then some folks started raving about it and I had some free time so I decided to give it a shot, was only 9 episodes anyways.

And it's pretty good IMO, serves to flesh out the characters, introduces some new ones I guess, moves stuff forward. That said I have some issues with it, big and small.

Spoiler: Here be spoilers (click to show/hide)

Still, despite those, I'd say it was a pretty good watch, if nothing, the first half of it was a brilliant thing and is worth watching on its own.
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Post by: Folly on March 26, 2021, 09:33:08 pm
I finished watching WandaVision. Was going to skip it initially because the name didn't grab me...but Jopax convinced me.

Overall a very decent addition to the Marvel live-action timeline. Though I feel the need to recommend skipping the first three episodes. They are fairly tedious, and the very few relevant parts get recapped in episode 4.
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Post by: scriver on May 08, 2021, 05:06:45 pm
Just watched a documentary about a cultish Waldorf school here in Sweden.

Crazy fucking people.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on May 08, 2021, 07:50:36 pm
Just watched a documentary about a cultish Waldorf school here in Sweden.

Crazy fucking people.

cultish? Why would anyone consider these people cultish? (https://youtu.be/upT5it63f-I)
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Post by: Yoink on May 08, 2021, 08:40:45 pm
I started watching Superstore. It's dumb but I like it. Basically a tv show about the people working in Walmart, getting up to !zany! hijinks.
Ugh, personally I hated that show. I watched an entire episode wanting to like it.   
A lot of the humour was the sort of thing that's been done before more successfully, but the main thing I took objection to was the main character. Are we really supposed to be rooting for this absolute jackwagon!? Right from the start he's making an arse of himself, harassing his new coworker and taking every opportunity to skive off work. And then, towards the end of the episode, it's revealed that the reason he hasn't been seen for fricking hours while everyone else has been working their butts off is that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
   
Good grief.   

Uh, yeah, rant over I guess. I think on some subconscious level I've been quietly seething ever since I watched it, but haven't actually had anyone to properly discuss the show's glaring shortcomings with. ^-^   

I think wheelchair dude was the show's one saving grace, 100%.   
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on May 09, 2021, 04:41:00 am
Just watched a documentary about a cultish Waldorf school here in Sweden.

Crazy fucking people.

cultish? Why would anyone consider these people cultish? (https://youtu.be/upT5it63f-I)

It 200% confirmed all my prejudice against Waldorf schools and the people who lead them. Terrible fucking people, never a thought about the children, completely irresponsible.

It's called De utvalda barnen, "The Chosen Children", but it's probably not available abroad yet as it's just being aired here. Basically it's made by a guy in his 40's maybe who used to think he had the perfect childhood/school-going, but who after making a face book group for the school starts to discover that not nearly everyone else who went there had the same happy memories that he did (he was one of the titular "Chosen Children"). It's in three parts and I've only seen the first so far, but it basically appears to have been Lord of the Flies except with music and singing, up to including teacher sanctioned beatings of unpopular kids. One woman described how she rembered she used to run to get to the classroom first, not because she loved learning so much but so she could get there before anyone else so she could hide on top/behind something (I didn't catch what) and spend the whole day hidden there.

Absolutely insane.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on May 14, 2021, 07:57:58 pm
I finished watching first season of Amazon's The Wilds.
It's a show about a bunch of teenage girls stranded on an island. Each episode focuses on one of the girls, juxtaposing her tragic backstory with present struggles on the island, and a bit of their future after getting off the island.

The teen girl interactions can be a bit cringe, especially in the early episodes, but it pays off later in the season as the mystery of their circumstances begins to unfold and we begin to see some real character growth.

I would recommend this one, if you can stomach the girl-drama. Season 2 is greenlit and hoped to arrive before the end of this year.


I also finished the first two seasons of Epix's Britannia.
This one is swords and low-sorcery story, set in old Britain about 2000 years ago. So there's knights and castles and all that, but most of the focus of the show falls upon a group of Druids serving as pawns of the gods, and the unfolding of a prophecy that may change everything for them.

The whole prophecy thing takes away any sense of free agency, so most of the entertainment of this show comes from the characters expressing perpetual frustration at their inability to control their own fates. I found this to be quite entertaining, and eagerly await more.

Season 3 has been greenlit, and again is hoped to arrive this year.
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Post by: Rolan7 on May 26, 2021, 09:47:44 pm
I've been watching StartUp for a week or two, I think it's kinda good.  It's about a weird triumvirate in Miami - a "banker"'s idealistic kid, a neurodivergent hacker, and a brilliant ganger who join forces to (keep mind this is fantasy) invent a cryptocurrency for the masses.  Parts of it remind me of San Andreas but the uniting theme is about actively defying stereotypes while utilizing (and working for!) one's unique community.
On Netflix
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on June 10, 2021, 10:04:38 pm
I just saw Loki episode one. I am convinced that this is Marvel's white whale, I am not sure how this made it into production, and I doubt Disney-Marvel will ever produce something as good again. Obviously, only the first ep is out, so we will see how it develops, but like... just the core idea of the show, and it's execution is incredible. IMO, it also the best-looking piece of film/television I have ever seen.

12/10
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Post by: Jopax on July 07, 2021, 01:48:30 pm
And 5 episodes later it's still going strong. Seriously, none of their earlier offerings managed to keep this level of interest or intrigue from me, even tho I'm kinda spoiled on what the most likely big bad is.

While I wasn't too hot about the other new Loki, they kinda grew on me over a few episodes and I honestly love the chemistry and dynamic the two Lokis have.

Plus the insane amount of fun little stuff they keep dropping in here and there, especially the latest episode was chock full of them (TV-8 says hi, as does Polybius). I'm kinda sad that it's 6 episodes only (tho it's understandable with the insane production value each episode has had) but it appears there's a second season coming as well, so there's that to look forward to (but that's also to be expected considering they have 1 episode left to resolve almost everything they've setup so far)

So yeah, Loki is damn good so far, with an interesting story and characters that I hope stick around for more than just the show (which is most likely going to happen if the rumors about the upcoming several movies are true)
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Post by: Urist McSpike on July 07, 2021, 03:43:10 pm
I saw a comment in some quarantine thread, about one that I need to start watching...  The Night Manager (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfzzLqzEf-I).  2016.  Based on a Le Carre novel. Tom Hiddleston, Hugh Laurie.  Looks fantastic, and I'm amazed I never saw anything about it before.
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Post by: scriver on July 07, 2021, 05:51:08 pm
I liked it a lot, do check it out!
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Post by: Folly on July 07, 2021, 09:18:05 pm
Loki definitely gets my vote for best Marvel live action series to date.

My only minor complaint is that the pacing is too fast. Every episode takes place in a completely new setting and circumstances. At this rate I fear the story will end far too soon, and with this material they easily could have stretched it out across several seasons.
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Post by: Vector on July 07, 2021, 11:25:38 pm
Supposedly it's to let T Hiddles leave cuz he doesn't want to play Loki anymore; I think that the growing pressure over portraying a canonically queer character as ... I dunno what, but not especially queer, is a growing problem for Disney.

I'll be honest, I basically gave up on Marvel when he got fridged in the first couple minutes of the Infinity War/Endgame movie, hence not wanting to see the series about my favorite gremlin. I understand queer characters are not forthcoming and that doesn't really make it hurt less.

Will I watch it?

Apparently yes, if I get a month of Disney-Plus free.

EDIT: OK, I agree, it's good. I saw the first two episodes and it doesn't even have that Marvel smell.
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Post by: Folly on July 08, 2021, 10:40:48 pm
I finished binging Epix's War of the Worlds (2019) seasons one and two.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So yeah...pretty stupid. And somehow this dreck got renewed for a third season, despite wrapping everything up at the end of the second season.
I cannot recommend this one.
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Post by: Naturegirl1999 on July 09, 2021, 07:01:17 am
It would be interesting if the third season was the previous seasons but from the aliens’ perspective, it’s probably not gonna be that though, note, haven’t watched the show at all
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 09, 2021, 03:04:16 pm
Star wars the clone wars.

Tbh: just like rebels, I think Filoni's take on Star Wars is surprisingly good
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Post by: Jopax on July 14, 2021, 07:56:04 am
Right, just finished Loki, shit was great.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Vector on July 14, 2021, 02:44:47 pm
Right, just finished Loki, shit was great.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Jopax on July 15, 2021, 02:15:28 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Anyways, despite the several issues that've popped up on further analysis I still think this is by far some of the best stuff they've done to date, partly because almost none of their previous attempts (movie or otherwise) have left me with so many questions and a pretty strong desire to figure out the answers.
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Post by: Vector on July 15, 2021, 05:18:14 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Anyways, despite the several issues that've popped up on further analysis I still think this is by far some of the best stuff they've done to date, partly because almost none of their previous attempts (movie or otherwise) have left me with so many questions and a pretty strong desire to figure out the answers.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on July 15, 2021, 05:48:46 pm
Feeling somewhat ambivalent about Loki honestly...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Telgin on September 01, 2021, 03:59:49 pm
Sort of a necro I guess and almost 20 years late, but I've started watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine lately.  I can see why a lot of people say it's the best Star Trek series, even if it's pretty different from its predecessors.  I can really appreciate the political and moral aspects to it now, where when I watched TNG as a kid I mostly appreciated the pew pew phasers and big space ships.  I think sticking to a more serial format with a strong continuing plot was a very good decision.

Interestingly, while I've finished the first 5 seasons and it's getting into the Dominion war arcs now, my favorite episode is still Duet from season 1.  There have been a lot of good episodes since then, but despite being a season 1 episode it really stood out to me.

Now, do I dare start Voyager after finishing this or do I binge TNG again...
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 02, 2021, 10:32:37 am
There's a fun recent addition on Netflix - a miniseries called Brand New Cherry Flavor.
It's wonderfully weird and stylish. Oozes charm, in a body horror, disturbing way. Setting is 90s LA, and it's about a filmmaker getting involved with some voodoo shit. The series manages to maintain this great sense that everyone in this environment is just a bit fucked up, a bit mad, maybe drugged out of their minds - just enough to accept all the weirdness that's going on around them, and roll with it. There's a few moments where you think that any normal person would just nope out of the situation and never come back, but the cast properly sells the auto-destructiveness of the characters.
Its momentum peters out somewhat in the finale, kinda characteristic of book adaptations IMO, with a contrived rush to close the story.
Rosa Salazar in the lead role is a wonder to watch (after Undone and this she's rapidly becoming my favourite actress working today; seems to gravitate towards weird projects). The cast in general, together with overall execution (cinematography & music is A+), elevates what is admittedly rather thin on the bones when one stops to think about it. But you don't stop to overanalyse while it lasts, and it does leave a mark after it ends.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 03, 2021, 10:35:20 am
I recently finished watching The Falcon and Winter Soldier. I had zero interest in either of the titular characters, but I've been pleasantly surprised by other Marvel Cinematic miniseries lately, so I figured I'd give this one a chance.

The show is about one third black racism guilt-tripping, one third war vets sitting around moaning about their dead buddy, and one third chasing around some little girl supervillain with a political cause that I guess I was supposed to sympathise with but didn't actually understand.
So....yeah. Not one of Marvel's finer moments imho.
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Post by: McTraveller on September 03, 2021, 03:40:04 pm
almost 20 years late...

Heh, I just started Stargate SG1. I have no idea why it's taken so long for me to start it... liking it so far, just into season 2.

Quote
Now, do I dare start Voyager

Only if you enjoy pain and suffering.  ;D
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Post by: scriver on September 04, 2021, 09:04:46 am
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Now, do I dare start Voyager

Only if you enjoy pain and suffering.  ;D

...I'm afraid
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Telgin on September 04, 2021, 02:55:56 pm
I'm aware of the infamous warp 10 episode where the writers clearly don't understand what warp 10 really means, or how evolution works, but I've gathered that there are a number of additional stinkers among the episodes beside that one.  I'm not really familiar with the contents of said episodes though, since I've only ever watched bits of various episodes when it was on TV many years ago.
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Post by: delphonso on September 05, 2021, 02:41:13 am
I think they time travel 4 times in the first season, so...
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Post by: King Zultan on September 05, 2021, 02:44:58 am
Every show has it's shit episodes, I'm sure it'll be fine.
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Post by: Rolan7 on September 05, 2021, 03:16:17 am
Yeah, revisit the first season of TNG (the series I grew up on) and be prepared for some yikes.
Except that maybe Voyager season 1 is stronger than any other Trek.  It has the tension between the Federation and Maquis forefront.  The show gets weaker as they fight against baddie aliens.  But it recovers - the show does very interesting things with the Borg.  Despite the sexualization, 7/9 is a surprisingly deep character.  Like Data, but if Data did war crimes before becoming sentient.  Imagine trying to process that.  I'd probably play simple games with a child too.
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Post by: McTraveller on September 05, 2021, 07:04:08 am
The early bits of TNG is what I would call "campy" - it's a little off, but it's honest about it, if that makes sense.

DS9 really is quite good, but it has a very different feel from TOS or TNG.

Voyager, on the other hand, just feels like it's trying too hard.  Some of the stories are OK, but I never really cared about any of the characters like I did in TOS, TNG, or DS9.  Yeah maybe Seven of Nine had some depth - but I actually felt like I had more empathy for Hugh in a single episode than I did for Seven of Nine across the series.

Enterprise also suffered a bit from "trying too hard" I felt - trying to be nostalgic but also all that time travel crap.  I haven't seen Discovery or later, so can't comment on those.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Telgin on September 05, 2021, 07:48:30 pm
Which series introduced the mushroom warp drive?  Or spore drive or whatever it was called?  That sounds like a series I'd rather avoid.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 05, 2021, 08:48:29 pm
Discovery introduced the Mycelium Drive.

I consider Discovery a fairly good series for action and exciting twists. I found the second season difficult to follow though, with all the time travel nonsense.
Overall, I wish they would focus less on the big season-long arcs, and do more episodic stuff like the earlier shows.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on September 05, 2021, 10:27:54 pm
I like Discovery for various reasons (the trans characters and Michael Burnham 100% steal the show). I don't like the seasonal arcs, it feels way too much like I'm watching a soap opera.
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Post by: Jopax on September 07, 2021, 10:14:10 pm
New trek is an unmitigated dumpster fire of incompetent writers/producers who neither get nor like any of the old stuff. I gave up on Discovery partway trough the first season because neither the overall plot was interesting nor were any of the characters likeable or memorable in any way.

Shit, this little clip RLM made perfectly shows the change. (https://youtu.be/TwF1iri1GjQ?t=5385) (and yes this is stuff from Picard, but Discovery was hardly any better as it was run/written by the same gaggle of incompetent hacks)

Edit:
Forgot to add that the link has some potentially disturbing imagery, you have been warned
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on September 08, 2021, 02:29:24 am
I have heard nothing good about Discovery, and have no intention of wasting my time watching it, and if Picard is made by the same people then I shall pass it over as well.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on September 08, 2021, 12:23:49 pm
I can't bring myself to hate on the new Trek shows. After all, they've given us all those hugely entertaining RLM reviews.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on September 08, 2021, 01:08:24 pm
Something good about new Discovery is that it is a show with good trans characters, which means a lot to some people >_>

There, now ya have learned something good about Discovery, instead of "nothing."


(Note that I'm not trying to convince anyone to enjoy it. I will say that I found Season 3 substantially better than the first two seasons, on just ... every level).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 08, 2021, 01:37:42 pm
My main gripe with Discovery Season 3 was the introduction of tech that is basically just magic particles which can instantly form anything you want. I hated when Iron Man and Black Panther did that shit too.
Super-science needs limitations, or else you're just left wondering why these idiots don't throw nanobots at every problem to make everything all better.

I also wasn't thrilled with evil Georgiou's redemption arc. Like, she was a major antagonist in the previous seasons, guilty of all kinds of major atrocities, and now everybody just trusts her gets along with her? No. That is not okay.

And the general way that they pass around leadership roles on a whim, with absolutely no regard for Starfleet regulations. I get that they're trying to go for big emotional moments or whatever, but I'm just not feeling it.
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Post by: Vector on September 08, 2021, 07:02:07 pm
All good points, Folly.
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Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on September 08, 2021, 07:15:48 pm
Picard is the worse of the two really, because putting in basically the greatest space hero of all time in a dystopic future is... well, obviously depressing. Everything this man has fought for is gone, and the idealism of TOS/TNG is lost completely.

Discovery is bad because it lacks direction and quality writing. Many of the characters are actually quite compelling, both despite themselves and despite the trash-tier writing. Graphics were upgraded, but it's come at the cost of set design and deviation from many of the values that made old trek great--I.E. it's just corporatized, lobotomized trek. I never saw season 3 or most of season 2... but having just come off binging TNG + DS9 + VOY for the first time right before Discovery came out: boy was that disheartening.

EDIT: IMO, it's so much "darker and grittier" than old trek that it is really like a mirror universe. Which is funny because DIS's mirror universe is 40k-lite.
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Post by: Vector on September 10, 2021, 07:51:40 pm
I'm gonna continue to say that I think at least watching the first episode of S3 is a good idea because it's very different from the previous ones. If you hate it -- no problem, point is simply that the tone and characters are pretty distinct.

I'm excited to watch and be disappointed by Strange New Worlds. Ahahahaha.
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Post by: Funk on September 13, 2021, 08:56:27 am
The X files, well just the myth arc.
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Post by: Folly on September 23, 2021, 12:31:31 pm
I finished catching up on Apple TV's 1.5 current seasons of See. It's really good!

The premise is that a virus wiped out most of humanity, effectively resetting cultures and technology, and also leaving the remnants of humanity entirely blind. Flash forward some generations and we get to see how civilization has adapted to the blind life, and how they respond when a few sighted people begin to emerge. The worldbuilding is great, the action is brutally violent, and the drama is consistently engaging.

Much as I loathe all things Apple, I gotta give this one a big thumbs up.
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Post by: brewer bob on October 04, 2021, 10:37:44 am
Been lately rewatching The Black Adder for the first time since the 90s. Still works for me (mostly) and I'm getting some ideas for a Warhammer Fantasy RP campaign I'm planning. In fact there's been quite a few gags that can be found as Easter Eggs in some books.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on October 04, 2021, 02:36:45 pm
Been lately rewatching The Black Adder for the first time since the 90s. Still works for me (mostly) and I'm getting some ideas for a Warhammer Fantasy RP campaign I'm planning. In fact there's been quite a few gags that can be found as Easter Eggs in some books.

I'd like to remind everyone here that canonically Edmund Blackadder becomes king of england thanks to a descendant changing history with a time machine
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Post by: Il Palazzo on November 04, 2021, 06:22:32 pm
I've binged four seasons of Downton Abbey. Lord help me.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 23, 2021, 07:50:41 pm
Another Apple TV show, Foundation recently finished it's first season. And it's another excellent watch.

Foundation is a sci-fi show that spans space and time to tell the story of harsh dictators reigning over a massive empire of thousands of planets, a scientist scheming to overthrow them, and some extraordinary individuals caught in the middle.
It's a story full of unexpected twists and dramatic surprises. I very much enjoyed this first season, and am eagerly awaiting the already approved second season.
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Post by: Rose on November 23, 2021, 07:53:09 pm
Wait shit, they made a show of that?

I read the books, and they were pretty good.
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Post by: EuchreJack on November 23, 2021, 07:55:59 pm
Gunsmoke
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Post by: Il Palazzo on November 24, 2021, 06:24:10 am
A while ago I noticed this LoL show on Netflix, called Arcane. Game inspired shows are never good, so it was odd to see a 100% score on rottentomatoes. Went and checked it out. And boy, is it beautiful or what.
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Post by: McTraveller on November 26, 2021, 05:18:06 pm
The Wheel of Time on Amazon.

It's been a long time since I've read the books (yes, all of them).  So far it's pretty close to what I remember - enough so that I can't say anything's amiss.  Maybe a few odd cinematic choices here and there, but I'm enjoying it!
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Post by: Il Palazzo on November 26, 2021, 06:28:09 pm
I just finished watching Devs, a show about some tech-nerds trying to break the universe.

Overall quality of the show is high. Good music, good visuals, good acting, good dialogue. It does come across as fairly pretentious, which may be a turnoff for some.

After 8 episodes the show gets a nice conclusion to wrap everything up, so it's a safe watch for those who don't like cliffhangers or ambiguous endings.
I've just stumbled upon this one.
It's an Alex Garland show (of Ex Machina, Annihilation). Honestly, that should be enough for a recommendation.
A brainy slow-boiler about quantum gobbledygook and determinism. Starring that girl who was tearing up the dance floor with Oscar Isaac in Ex Machina, Thufir Hawat, and Ron fucking Swanson.
It's kinda great. How is this not talked about more is mystifying.
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Post by: EuchreJack on November 28, 2021, 09:06:36 am
A while ago I noticed this LoL show on Netflix, called Arcane. Game inspired shows are never good, so it was odd to see a 100% score on rottentomatoes. Went and checked it out. And boy, is it beautiful or what.

Castlevania was pretty good, never watched the second season.
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Post by: brewer bob on November 28, 2021, 09:40:32 am
The Wheel of Time on Amazon.

It's been a long time since I've read the books (yes, all of them).

Actually started watching this, but after 15 minutes decided that I'll have to read a bit about the world first (haven't read the books or pretty much anything about the premise). Seemed an interesting and decent enough series to watch, but felt like I need to know some background to get the most out of it.

Other than that, I've been re-watching (again) the first campaign of Critical Role. The second campaign was a bit meh and didn't like the "better production values" nor the characters, but the third campaign surprisingly has been entertaining so far, and I even like the characters (except can't really stand Taliesin's punk-rock barbarian that feels super awkward to me).
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Post by: Folly on November 28, 2021, 12:07:16 pm
A while ago I noticed this LoL show on Netflix, called Arcane. Game inspired shows are never good, so it was odd to see a 100% score on rottentomatoes. Went and checked it out. And boy, is it beautiful or what.
Castlevania was pretty good, never watched the second season.

Castlevania has 4 seasons now, with the fourth concluding the story of Trevor Belmont and his company. There is a sequel in the works, set to focus on descendant Richter Belmont.
The series has been a bit rushed in my opinion; ambitiously tackling lots of different characters and plots simultaneously, and not quite giving all of them the time they needed to feel complete. That kept things exciting though.

On the subject of video game shows, DOTA: Dragons Blood is also on Netflix, and I consider it quite good. Production values aren't quite as high as Arcane, and the setting more fantasy cliche. But still a solid show.
Season 2 is scheduled for January 2022!
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Post by: McTraveller on November 28, 2021, 12:43:55 pm


Actually started watching this, but after 15 minutes decided that I'll have to read a bit about the world first (haven't read the books or pretty much anything about the premise). Seemed an interesting and decent enough series to watch, but felt like I need to know some background to get the most out of it.


I would recommend against that actually - if the show can't stand on its own exposition, it failed.  So far it seems to be expositing at about the same pace of the books - at least, in the books, there was a lot about the world you don't learn at the beginning. It does come in bits and pieces.

Part of the enjoyment of any piece of fantasy is getting the information over time, not just all at once... at least in my opinion.
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Post by: brewer bob on November 28, 2021, 01:47:12 pm
Part of the enjoyment of any piece of fantasy is getting the information over time, not just all at once... at least in my opinion.

It's more of a personal preference or maybe an unhealthy obsession for me: I find myself often being more interested in the worlds than the actual stories being told. Maybe it's got to do with me being the eternal DM since a kid, so I try to know as much of the surrounding world as possible (I actually very rarely get to the point of DMing and spend all the time either reading on the setting or trying to create my own)? Dunno.

In any case, I read just a brief description of the premise and that should be enough to satisfy my curiosity for now, so I'll probably give a new go for the series some time soon.
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Post by: TD1 on December 11, 2021, 09:53:50 am
As someone who really enjoyed the Wheel of Time books, the series was a hige disappointment.

Mainly because the characters were altered far too much, and also because the coming of age stuff was completely cut out by aging everyone.

The whole idea of Wheel of Time was that a group of innocent farmers went into the world and grew up while combating its darkness. The WoT show is just generic fantasy.

I will admit that the visual content is incredibly well done, though.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 11, 2021, 11:03:40 am
Re: Wheel of Time

I feel like a big part of the ire with remakes or book adaptations is that when you are watching visual adaptations of books, they are always going to be somewhat different.  You have to somewhat put aside your expectations and just take the presentation as what it is.  Works of art aren't just for the audience - they are also for the creator.  Let the creators create!

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Post by: brewer bob on December 11, 2021, 12:17:35 pm
I feel like a big part of the ire with remakes or book adaptations is that when you are watching visual adaptations of books, they are always going to be somewhat different.  You have to somewhat put aside your expectations and just take the presentation as what it is.  Works of art aren't just for the audience - they are also for the creator.  Let the creators create!

I think it's not important for the adaptation to be (too) faithful for the original story or characters -- if I want to experience the original story, I'm probably better off just reading the book. It's more important that the visual adaptation has the same feel as the literary work, which is something most adaptations fail to do, in my opinion (can't say about Wheel of Time, though).
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Post by: TD1 on December 11, 2021, 02:23:24 pm
I agree that adaptations should have the same flavour, not necessarily the same content, as the books.

It's what made Dune a good adaptation imo. It tasted the same as the books, and used its medium to push them forward in new ways - for instance with the sound track.

Rand's about 19 in the books, and what... 25 in the series? A big difference.

What the series did to Mat was nearly as bad as what they did to Perrin, largely because it misses the entire 'flavour' of WoT - which, as stated above, is a coming-of-age tale involving simple country boys that lacks GoT style grimdark stuff. The series is a testament to what the producers thought people wanted, not what was true to the source material.

What the series did to Mat and Perrin:

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You can see how, with these characters at its helm, the series just doesn't feel like WoT to me.

I'll add the caveat that I only managed to stomach two episodes and then had to bail. So maybe it improves.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 11, 2021, 03:35:23 pm
Spoiler: More on WoT (click to show/hide)
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Post by: lemon10 on December 11, 2021, 11:43:54 pm
I'll add the caveat that I only managed to stomach two episodes and then had to bail. So maybe it improves.
It does not improve.

They change so much stuff, often for little or no reason that it only barely feels like the same series.

I feel like one of the big reasons that GOT was so good was that Martin was alive to make sure that stuff stayed broadly the same (until they got to the end of the books, at which point... well, you know what happened). Jordan is not alive, and thus wasn't there to stop them randomly changing massive elements of the world, characters, plot, themes, and pacing and it shows.
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Is it a bad show? No. But if you loved the books and you watch it hoping its like the books you will be mighty disappointed.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 12, 2021, 08:14:23 am
I don't yet feel like Wheel of Time has really completely broken things relative to the books.

I mean it's nowhere near the level of The Dark Tower for example.  I'm still sad about that one - those were some of my favorite books.
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Post by: Eschar on December 12, 2021, 04:28:09 pm
I don't yet feel like Wheel of Time has really completely broken things relative to the books.

I mean it's nowhere near the level of The Dark Tower for example.  I'm still sad about that one - those were some of my favorite books.
The Dark Tower movie is a travesty, a tragedy, and does not deserve to bear the name.
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Post by: TD1 on December 14, 2021, 08:02:36 am
I don't yet feel like Wheel of Time has really completely broken things relative to the books.

I mean it's nowhere near the level of The Dark Tower for example.  I'm still sad about that one - those were some of my favorite books.
The Dark Tower movie is a travesty, a tragedy, and does not deserve to bear the name.
I agree about the Dark Tower adaptation. Imo, WoT isn't far off deserving a similar description. It's 'a travesty, a tragedy, and does not deserve to bear the name.' The main difference is that I don't think the Dark Tower was a good movie in general. I think the WoT series might be okay (though not stellar) if you wanted a mostly-generic-and-modernly-diverse-fantasy-show with little originality - a perfect background series en par with earlier BBC fantasy originals.

Jordan is not alive, and thus wasn't there to stop them randomly changing massive elements of the world, characters, plot, themes, and pacing and it shows.
Though Sanderson is, of course, still alive. I saw a quote recently of him saying the script was 'fantastic.' Not sure how much he collaborated on the show.
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Post by: Ulfarr on December 20, 2021, 05:12:00 pm
I binged the 2nd season of Witcher yesterday. Funny thing is what prompted me to watch it, was reading someone complain about it on some other site.

Now I'm not that into the Witcher universe (I haven't played the games or read any of the books), so I can't comment on how faithfull it was on the source material. Compared to season 1, it now has a linear stracture and it focuses a lot on the overarching story around Nilfgaard's invasion and Ciri. While, these choices aren't necessairly bad, I feel like they restricted the show to a grimmer theme/tone and I somewhat miss the general lightheartedness of the first season.

Overall i'd say it is quite enjoyable.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 20, 2021, 05:36:42 pm
Just started on second season of The Witcher, so can't say too much about it.

I guess I don't feel as strongly that Wheel of Time is a terrible adaptation. I do have some problems with the editing and sequencing of the story*, but it's not been enough for me to bail yet.

Spoiler: *Real WoT Spoilers!!! (click to show/hide)

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Spoiler: Witcher Spoilers (click to show/hide)
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Post by: TD1 on December 21, 2021, 06:17:36 pm
Spoiler: *Real WoT Spoilers!!! (click to show/hide)
I'm not gonna watch it, so mind saying how they did it? Obviously spoiler the reply for others!
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Post by: McTraveller on December 21, 2021, 06:51:26 pm
Spoiler: WoT (click to show/hide)

It kind of goes with my feeling that the show is all right and entertaining enough, and more or less follows the sense I remember for the story, but has some really odd storyboarding / editing choices.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 22, 2021, 02:47:26 am
Shit, that Witcher is kinda terribad. The first season wasn't good either, but it was still bingeable as a sort of guilty pleasure. This one is just ugh. At least so far, after two episodes. Bad acting, shit direction, confused script, generic visuals.

@McTraveller
Spoiler: Witcher (click to show/hide)
Honestly, I find myself struggling to care enough to sort it all out.
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Post by: Folly on December 22, 2021, 04:41:45 pm
Marvel's Hawkeye just concluded its first season.

First of all, Kingpin had better survive that off-screen implied death, because that is by far the lamest way that any Marvel villain could possibly die and he just deserves better.

Anyway, this show is mostly a introduction for Hawk-Girl(not her real title). And it does that reasonably well. The new sidekick provides an enthusiastic breath of fresh air, which serves to effectively counter Hawkeye who is worn-out and eager to retire at this point.

Aside from that, the show really fails to provide any meaningful stakes. There's an assassin who is confused about her motives and gives up as soon as she stops to think for two seconds, a deaf girl who has daddy issues or whatever, the aforementioned Kingpin whose appearance feels like nothing more than a cameo, and the Tracksuit Mafia who seem to have no greater role than to showcase what trick-arrows are capable of. At no point during this show did I feel like our protagonists were in real danger, nor that these events would have any impact on the greater Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Overall the show is watchable, but expectations should be kept fairly low.
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Post by: Vector on December 22, 2021, 06:28:34 pm
Shit, that Witcher is kinda terribad. The first season wasn't good either, but it was still bingeable as a sort of guilty pleasure. This one is just ugh. At least so far, after two episodes. Bad acting, shit direction, confused script, generic visuals.

@McTraveller
Spoiler: Witcher (click to show/hide)
Honestly, I find myself struggling to care enough to sort it all out.

I agree with you, the second season has gutted everything worth seeing in Witcher. They have rearranged the plot to the point where there is no meaning in it left, too, and almost all of the charming scenes are gone. My interpretation is that you could easily watch the television show without being spoiled for the books because they are too different.
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Post by: Robsoie on December 23, 2021, 05:51:48 am
Putting in spoilers just in case
Spoiler: witcher (click to show/hide)
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Post by: McTraveller on December 23, 2021, 02:08:07 pm
I have to say, I'm pretty amused at how much "crosstalk" there is on Stargate SG-1 to other sci-fi of the era, both in little easter eggs in the plot and numerous* actors, especially from Star Trek, showing up as extras.

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Post by: Ulfarr on December 23, 2021, 06:19:15 pm
Putting in spoilers just in case
Spoiler: witcher (click to show/hide)

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Post by: Robsoie on December 24, 2021, 07:07:38 am
Spoiler: Cahir (click to show/hide)
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on December 24, 2021, 08:34:08 am
A while ago I noticed this LoL show on Netflix, called Arcane. Game inspired shows are never good, so it was odd to see a 100% score on rottentomatoes. Went and checked it out. And boy, is it beautiful or what.
Castlevania was pretty good, never watched the second season.

Castlevania has 4 seasons now, with the fourth concluding the story of Trevor Belmont and his company. There is a sequel in the works, set to focus on descendant Richter Belmont.
The series has been a bit rushed in my opinion; ambitiously tackling lots of different characters and plots simultaneously, and not quite giving all of them the time they needed to feel complete. That kept things exciting though.

On the subject of video game shows, DOTA: Dragons Blood is also on Netflix, and I consider it quite good. Production values aren't quite as high as Arcane, and the setting more fantasy cliche. But still a solid show.
Season 2 is scheduled for January 2022!

Last season was rushed because the show producer was involved in a scandal.
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Post by: Ulfarr on December 24, 2021, 10:35:36 am
Spoiler: Cahir (click to show/hide)

I see. Most complains that I had read before, were almost exclusively about the casting choices which, to put it politely, didn't really hold any merit. Changing the characters, that's a different story and after reading what you wrote about book Cahir, I would have liked if they had kept him that way. Thanks Robsoie

About the Castlevania show:

1. Sypha, is arguably one of the best examples for how a wizard character should fight. Highly mobile. Highly destructive. Just lovely. 
2. The toilet paper scene (https://youtu.be/pFxiF-GPogE)! That timing... right in the middle of a global shortage of toilet paper  :D :D :D

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Post by: McTraveller on December 24, 2021, 11:47:25 am
So after Ep 8 of Wheel of Time, I think I understand what is most different in feel from the show compared to the books, and probably what many people are feeling.

The show feels rushed.  Especially considering the late Robert Jordan had... ponderous pacing.
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Post by: Folly on December 28, 2021, 11:09:44 pm
Shit, that Witcher is kinda terribad. The first season wasn't good either, but it was still bingeable as a sort of guilty pleasure. This one is just ugh. At least so far, after two episodes. Bad acting, shit direction, confused script, generic visuals.

I just finished the second season.

First couple of episodes do have some issues. They are only loosely connected to the main arc of the season, and not super interesting on their own.
The rest of the season does get better though. Not amazing, but there's a lot of building up of the characters and factions which I feel could lead to more impressive seasons down the line.
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Post by: TD1 on December 29, 2021, 10:39:19 am
So far, it's not as good as the first season. But I agree with Folly: there's a lot of build-up here which I expect will see later development.

Honestly, I mostly appreciate how they've managed to evoke the Continent's culture and fears. That's a strength of both series.

Edit: Is it bad that Geralt actually talking feels wrong to me? :P
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Post by: andrea on December 31, 2021, 11:34:24 am
A while ago I noticed this LoL show on Netflix, called Arcane. Game inspired shows are never good, so it was odd to see a 100% score on rottentomatoes. Went and checked it out. And boy, is it beautiful or what.

Since this seems to have not be discussed much over here(not nearly as much as it deserves), I shall bring it up again

Watch Arcane. Give it a try, at least the first 3 episodes.
You may be concerned because you are not familiar with the source material (league of legends) or because you are, but in truth they did a great job of making it accessible and it should be considered on its own merits.

The art is quite interesting and I find it wonderfully animated. It adopts a painterly look which allows to blend the 2D and 3D seamlessly, in addition of making most frames look like paintings. And there is in fact a lot of 2D and 3D interacting: all the backgrounds and many objects are purely 2D, with 3D being reserved for characters. The special effects like fire smoke and similar are also 2D. Overall, it is quite peculiar and in my opinion frankly wonderful to look at.
Special mention goes to the expressions of the characters. It is all hand animated (as opposed to motion capture) but despite the style not being hyperrealistic, the work done on microexpressions and in general the "aliveness" is amazing. The characters are never really still: they breathe, they move, they shake, all in a very believable way. Unlike most animated products, they didn't cut any corner to reduce the work.
With the benefit of very strong visuals and style, the show is very much in the "show don't tell" camp, with many things inferred from what we are shown without being told about it.

As for plot, it is pretty standard rich vs oppressed plot, but its focus is on the characters, and they are fairly solid ones. You can see where they come from and the reasons why they behave in a certain way and you never get the feeling that they are bent out of character for plot convenience but rather due to their personality and history it wouldn't make sense for them to behave in a different way no matter what we as the detatched audience see as the best way to act. This is complicated by heroes having flaws and villains having virtues or at least understandable motivations. The central conflict is explored from many different angles and you can pick almost any 2 characters and find some interesting dualism to argue on.

The camera work is pretty great, above many works which actually have a camera. They use their freedom in positioning the shot well and frequently for greater impact. The camera changes focus, shakes, rotates as needed for the scenes without actual physical limitations but mimicking the real camera feeling.

Fights are definitely not the focus of this work (the best fight scene is mostly flashback and most of the other fight scenes have deeper involvement than just the action itself), but one thing I want to say is that they are pretty raw. The show never resorts to an excess of gore (there is some, but sparingly used to make it impactful) but the great work done on expressions, body language and movement combined with the fact that in an animation characters can actually make contact unlike live action makes the violence feel... very violent. the punches hurt. The characters get bloodies, get tired, get sloppier as the fight go on.


In short: amazing art and animation, great character driven story, good overall direction and acting, no knowledge of source material required.
it is an opinion and yours may differ, but I invite you to give it a chance

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Post by: McTraveller on December 31, 2021, 12:57:52 pm
Haha Jayne Cobb makes a guest appearance on SG-1! It's kind of funny because he's like the same character.

Better than T'Pol's guest appearance. I never cared for her to be honest.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 02, 2022, 01:53:14 pm
You may be concerned because you are not familiar with the source material (league of legends) or because you are, but in truth they did a great job of making it accessible and it should be considered on its own merits.
If I had to complain about something, I'd say the show falters when (towards the end) it tries to align itself with the game logic and looks. At that point the characters start drifting away from well-written and fleshed-out people inhabiting a fantastical but believably grounded world, and take on excessive aspects. The game-appropriate oversized gear looks comically impractical (the hammer, the gloves, the minigun), the effective plot immortality of main characters defuses a lot of tension, and the wholesale slaughter of disposable mooks begins to replace ensouled characters and actual stakes in fights.
To be clear, coming in I thought this gamey reality is all the show would be. But it only appears as barely an afterthought in an otherwise excellent character drama. And, on the other hand, one needs to credit the lore and art style of the game for the general aesthetics of the show. Still, I wish it would be able to divorce itself from its roots a bit more.
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Post by: andrea on January 02, 2022, 05:35:58 pm
Honestly, the gloves and the hammer don't bother me much. They are heavy machinery, which is only wieldable because it has built-in antigravity (note when one gauntlet was damaged and it fell to the ground like the huge piece of metal it is, completely unuseable). The gauntlets in particular should be compared to a jackhammer rather than boxing gloves, considering they are mining tools. The hammer at least has a symbolic reason for why it is a giant hammer, impractical as it is (also, I would classify it as an heavy gun rather)

The minigun stretches my suspension of disbelief quite more. There is eventually a reason why it can be used handheld like that, but it happens at the end of the story after it has already been in use. I believe the authors were also aware of that, since it is very often not on screen while not shooting, to the point that on the first watch I thought it just appeared from nothing and I went back to check if it was actually present all the time
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Post by: Vector on January 02, 2022, 10:23:12 pm
S1 of Cobra Kai was pretty good. Not happy about later seasons . . .
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 02, 2022, 10:25:44 pm
S1 was very good. S2... decent but nowhere near as good as 1 . S3 was hollow. S4 so far is better than S3, but still... mreh.

I´d agree that S1 had some themes and undertones that were missing from the rest of the seasons
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Post by: McTraveller on January 05, 2022, 06:48:16 pm
So I know that SG-1 has 10 seasons, but

Spoiler: Real Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: delphonso on January 05, 2022, 07:28:27 pm
So I know that SG-1 has 10 seasons, but

Spoiler: Disappointment inside (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Yoink on January 05, 2022, 08:53:15 pm
I never had an interest in playing the games or reading the books, but a couple of friends have roped me into watching (well, for them it was a re-watch of the 1st season in preparation for the 2nd) The Witcher with them and, while it is pretty much as dumb and trope-ridden as I expected, it has made for entertaining enough viewing. *shrug*   
Real love/hate thing with Jaskier, though. He can be pretty damn funny until he opens his mouth and starts singing. Eugh.  :-\   
   
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Post by: Rolan7 on January 06, 2022, 02:28:00 am
So I know that SG-1 has 10 seasons, but

Spoiler: Disappointment inside (click to show/hide)
Oh shit I'm near the end of Season 8.  I haven't watched in a month or so - it's a popcorn show for me but I very much enjoy it, when I'm feeling lazy and wanting some pro-colonialist sci-fi :P  I guess I sorta burned out recently (S8E8 was the last I saw, apparently, I truly don't remember it.  I think it was more real life factors that paused my watching).
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Post by: delphonso on January 06, 2022, 02:42:51 am
It's in the A-Team and McGyver category in my mind - super fun to watch if you don't think too deeply on the themes - which might just be necessary for any TV show that's at least 10 years old at this point, but that's also my own growing sensitivity and cynicism, so who knows.

Definitely recommend wrapping up Season 8 at least.
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Post by: Rolan7 on January 06, 2022, 02:49:31 am
It's not nearly as problematic as TNG season 1, haha.  It's generally fine, it's just easy to read certain USA expeditionary propaganda into it.  On the whole it's a very solid show.  Good representation for women and minorities.
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Post by: McTraveller on January 06, 2022, 08:41:27 am

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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 16, 2022, 08:47:44 am
I was never into horror stories. I still don't think I am. All too often there's an over-reliance on cheap tropes and jump scares. And the general mean-spiritedness in them I find off-putting. But now that I've watched almost everything Mike Flanagan has made, I think I'm in love with what he's doing with the genre.
To be sure, there's plenty creepiness to be had, but it's not there for its own sake. The goal is not to simply spook you and leave you disturbed. The horror facade is more like a background for emotional family drama, meditations on mortality, love, regret, faith. It's all wonderfully steeped in heartfelt melancholy.

I highly recommend Midnight Mass, or The Haunting of the Hill House. I've yet to see the other Haunting series (of Bly Manor), but by now I can confidently state that there's no way it will be anything less than stellar. It's all on Netflix. His feature films are great too.
You can see the actors are having a ball with what they're given. Wonderful performances all around.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on January 22, 2022, 09:59:31 am
And for a complete change of tone... Smiling Friends on Adult Swim is a thing. A weird, weird, weird thing.
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Post by: delphonso on January 24, 2022, 07:12:37 am
And for a complete change of tone... Smiling Friends on Adult Swim is a thing. A weird, weird, weird thing.

I caught a few clips from friends and yeah... I was sold and am looking forward to watching more.
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Post by: Folly on January 29, 2022, 05:05:34 pm
I finished the first season of Showtime's Yellowjackets.

The premise is basically the same as The Wilds; a bunch of teenage girls survive a plane crash and are stranded in the wilderness for an extended period of time.
Pretty much every episode climaxed with dramatic music very slowly leading up to a reveal, which always turned out to be something disappointingly mundane. Like, the story would have been just okay if these scenes had been given no more pomp than they warranted. And I could have looked the other way if it was just a one-off things. But no; every single episode pulled the exact same stunt, and it quickly became vexing.
The first episode opened with a teaser for a dramatic event, before jumping back to a much earlier point in the story. Throughout most of the first season it felt like we were making our way up to that dramatic event. Then the season finale came, and we are only maybe halfway to that point in the story. That is not okay. Very bad storytelling.

Despite these complaints, the finale did include multiple surprising twists and mild cliffhangers, so I'll definitely be coming back whenever the already approved second season arrives. But I'm not happy about it.
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Post by: McTraveller on February 01, 2022, 10:10:06 pm
I just tried to start Lost in Space.

Morbo says: Water does not freeze that way! Maybe if it was not turbulent and was supercooled. But not like that!
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Post by: King Zultan on February 02, 2022, 02:11:05 am
The original or the newer one?
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Post by: McTraveller on February 02, 2022, 11:43:33 am
The new one.  So.  Much.  Manufactured.  Tension.  I stopped at maybe 20 minutes into the first episode.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on February 02, 2022, 11:48:21 am
I stopped at maybe 20 minutes into the first episode.
Same reaction here. It's bad.
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Post by: hector13 on February 06, 2022, 10:33:11 pm
I am watching Elementary on Hulu, the Sherlock Holmes with Jonny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu. Almost finished the first season, it is enjoyable, the myriad twists and turns the episodes take make them interesting from start to finish, but it does the typical American thing of having 4 times as many episodes in a season as it really needs to actually do any character development and deeper story stuff.

I also watched The Great a fictionalised telling of Catherine the Great’s rise to power and her tenure as Empress of Russia. It is, quite frankly, brilliant, and would urge y’all to give it a watch. There is minimal historical accuracy if that bothers you, but that would normally get on my nerves and it is easily ignorable as a result of the quality of the work otherwise.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on February 07, 2022, 08:06:24 am
I've been hearing glowing praise for The Great. But it's Hulu only, right?
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Post by: hector13 on February 07, 2022, 02:56:28 pm
As far as I’m aware it’s Hulu only, though the way it’s structured it seems like they expected it to be sold to commercial tv at some point. There are bits in it that look like points for ad breaks, if that makes sense.
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Post by: Vector on February 07, 2022, 08:12:44 pm
I like Norsemen.

The Great is pretty good too, I got bored at some point and stopped watching. But overall, good.
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Post by: Rolan7 on February 07, 2022, 08:49:47 pm
Norsemen is really funny!  A couple characters are effeminate stereotypes, sooorta, but it's played in such a unique way that I even enjoy it.  Both of them have a lot more going on than just that.  There's a lot of gender role humor in other ways too, which is fun.

I recommend checking out at least a little of it to hear the English dialogue.  There's something strange about it, like an accent where the inflections are all off.  Someone told me that the english dialogue was spoken by the actors even when they barely know English.  I don't know if that's true, but that's what it sounds like - and it's a neat affect!

It breaks up the expected rhythm of every sentence like jazz or something.
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Post by: Scoops Novel on February 08, 2022, 08:22:53 pm
M*A*S*H is great. That is all. Ah, except skip to the second season maybe. Gets DRAMATICALLY BETTER over time. Actually just dramatically better. Whatever, watch it.
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Post by: Vector on February 09, 2022, 01:37:27 am
M*A*S*H is great. That is all. Ah, except skip to the second season maybe. Gets DRAMATICALLY BETTER over time. Actually just dramatically better. Whatever, watch it.

Cheers, I agree on both counts.


Norsemen is really funny!  A couple characters are effeminate stereotypes, sooorta, but it's played in such a unique way that I even enjoy it.  Both of them have a lot more going on than just that.  There's a lot of gender role humor in other ways too, which is fun.

I recommend checking out at least a little of it to hear the English dialogue.  There's something strange about it, like an accent where the inflections are all off.  Someone told me that the english dialogue was spoken by the actors even when they barely know English.  I don't know if that's true, but that's what it sounds like - and it's a neat affect!

It breaks up the expected rhythm of every sentence like jazz or something.

Yes! I get a big kick out of the conversations that sound like "workplace talk." And honestly, the somewhat effeminate characters may be stereotypes, but they really are (imho) no better or worse than any other characters. I watch the show because I like Orm and Rufus hohohohohoho
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Post by: scriver on February 09, 2022, 04:50:43 am
When Norse it's höhöhö
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Post by: hector13 on February 09, 2022, 09:19:37 am
When Norse it's höhöhö
I went hahahaha
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Post by: Rolan7 on February 10, 2022, 12:53:16 am
I was warned away from Inside Job but I finally saw the first episode tonight, and wow.  There's *no way* this holds up, and I mean that as praise.  I absolutely loved it.  It's no good for playing over a video game because the jokes (and references, which are like jokes) were hitting constantly and visually.  Like Disenchanted, I'll need to watch it when I'm not busy.  The rest of the show might be total crap but I want to share this episode with each of my parents, and that's rare.

It's a show starring the person I always wanted to be when I grew up, working with a very handsome himbo, and dedicated to a subculture (conspiracy shit) which I enjoy nerding over and laughing at.  It's almost too perfect.  Why was I warned away from this? /concerned
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Post by: Vector on February 10, 2022, 04:20:34 am
I didn't like the show personally, I can't remember but I think I watched a couple of episodes. I found the sidekick real irritating. Hooray for character whose superpower is white privilege, we have so many of those already.

I hope the show holds up for you and it turns out to just be a matter of different taste!
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Post by: Robsoie on February 10, 2022, 01:17:19 pm
Watched the 2 seasons of netflix's Knightfall .
That's a serie that is inspired by the historical events and characters that lead into the fall of the Knights Templar order and "romance/fictionalize" it (i mean it does not even try to be accurate to the actual historical events and characters ) .

Was suprised by how much i liked it, because i had only read reviews that were basically painting a very mediocre show. Maybe it's because my expectations were then very low that i enjoyed it so much but i'm glad i gave that serie a try (i usually watch anything that is medieval themed anyways :D ) as i found it way better than the reviews told.

.. a very lot better to me than the terribly bad fan fiction the whole season 2 of Witcher turned to be.

There was a 3rd season supposed to happen but it was cancelled (it is not really a problem as the story is finished anyways in season 2).
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Post by: Il Palazzo on February 10, 2022, 01:28:34 pm
Goddamnit, Robsoie. It's 'a series'. It's a plural noun. There's no such thing as 'a serie'. You've been making the same mistake for years and my ocd can't take it no more.
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Post by: Robsoie on February 10, 2022, 01:45:01 pm
Probably not having english as my language does not help as in my own it's not plural at all :D
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Post by: Vector on February 10, 2022, 02:30:38 pm
You know that Il Palazzo is Polish right. Whatever your native tongue is, I can guarantee that his is more cursed.

(a long time ago, he gave me lessons, which is why I get to make that joke. Hi Pan Polak o/).
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Post by: Il Palazzo on February 10, 2022, 02:34:09 pm
Dobry wieczór V.
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Post by: Robsoie on February 10, 2022, 07:49:25 pm
You know that Il Palazzo is Polish right.
Honestly i don't keep track of anyone nationality on that board and i'm not really caring of their origins when discussing with people on bay12.
As long as i understand roughly what they're saying it's all what is mattering to my brain :)
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Post by: scriver on February 11, 2022, 03:49:20 am
I've learned Palazzo's just because I thought for the longest time he was Italian because of the name and the reveal shocked it stuck in my head

In Swedish a singular series is a serie though :P
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Post by: dragdeler on February 11, 2022, 11:09:35 am
But what if you have widgets series 1000, widgets series 2000, and widgets series 3000, all of them feature s,m,l and ti models, and you want to refer to all the widgets 2000 l of the revision 2b?


In german we have the singular, it's kind of synonymous with edition.
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Post by: McTraveller on April 01, 2022, 08:20:07 pm
What

the

ALF

in Mr. Robot?

(Yes I watch shows way after they air).

EDIT: Ok so I thought I had seen surreal television before this episode.  I was wrong.
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Post by: hector13 on April 05, 2022, 10:47:12 pm
Finished watching Elementary and it was highly entertaining.

It does do the fairly typical American thing of having far too many episodes to fit the story they tell, but even the stand-alone cases were oftentimes compelling enough to keep me interested and unable to predict who was doing what and why.
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Post by: lemon10 on April 06, 2022, 12:14:19 am
EDIT: Ok so I thought I had seen surreal television before this episode.  I was wrong.
You want surreal television? Watch Legion it *Chef's kiss* is amazing.

Why is everything inside the room upside down as if the ceiling is the floor? I have no clue, and you have no clue, and maybe it will be explained at some point, except no it won't and nobody ever knows.
The second season especially is just strange to be strange*, and I love it.

*As opposed to the first and third seasons, which are strange but typically offer up at least a reason for the strangeness (eg. they are in a dream realm or someone is crazy or reality warping aliens are coming to devour everyone).
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Post by: hector13 on April 20, 2022, 12:30:17 am
Watched the second season of Bridgerton recently.

Not really as good as the first, and it seemed to manufacture plot points for the sake of having plot points, but it was an alright time-waster.
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Post by: Folly on May 12, 2022, 08:20:40 pm
Picard recently finished it's second season.
The major season arc uses the old trope of time traveling back to the current real-life time. I assume this saves a ton of money on set design. It's not an idea I find particularly interesting, but they pulled it off well enough.
We got a brief cameo from an old TNG character which may hint at things to come. An unexpected(and perhaps unwelcome?) redemption arc for the Borg. Some closure for Q. A girl-kiss from 7of9. An origin story for Jean-Luc. And a big lead-in for the already approved Season 3.
So overall, lots of stuff to tie this show in with the old TNG. I liked it a bit more than the first season, which I didn't hate. Looking forward to more.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds just started.
Only 2 episodes in, but I really like what I'm seeing so far. Epic stakes of civilizations being wiped out and wars being started, but the crew handles it all with calm professionalism in way that reminds me of the classic Star Trek shows, and has been missing from the more recent series.
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Post by: lemon10 on May 14, 2022, 02:03:28 am
I finished Peacemaker a few weeks ago. It really felt like Suicide Squad 2 (not surprising given it had the same director and basic "dude gets conscripted to a suicide squad" plot), and was pretty good. It wasn't amazing or anything, but I would pretty heartily recommend it if you liked the SS2 movie.

I had some issues with it, but the only thing that really bugged me is that I didn't really like is how they seemed to have toned down the difference between supers and regular people.
In SS2 they go out of their way over and over to show that even these D-list supers with no actual powers are godamn combat monsters, and that if you just send like 10 people in against Harley or Bloodsport or Peacemaker you just fed 10 of your soldiers to a woodchipper even though they don't have any actual powers.

In this Peacemaker just kinda feels like a skilled dude with some cool toys, which is obviously more realistic with regards to actual reality, but it does make him and the show just a little less awesome.

I've also finished the first season of the British Taskmaster for free on youtube, which is a comedy show about a comedian telling a bunch of other comedians tasks to do that they then accomplish.
It hits well with my sense of humor so I've really been liking it. IMHO the second season isn't quite so good so far (they change the contestants up every season, and these guys aren't as fun), but its still fairly decent.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on May 19, 2022, 01:42:13 pm
New season of better call saul quietly dropped and I did not notice!
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Post by: Jopax on May 23, 2022, 05:22:05 pm
Oh yeah, UK Taskmaster is the shit. Discovered it randomly a couple of years back and have been going trough the stuff whenever new episodes become available. One of the things that you realize as you go is that every season starts with you disliking the new set of victims contestants at first, but as they grow increasingly familiar and unhinged over the course of a season you grow to love them just as much as the previous folks. There will be favorites and highlights of course, but so far I think I've enjoyed pretty much every season with regards to the folks involved in it.

As for myself, enough people have raved about Severance so far that I went and checked it out. One episode in and I'm pretty damn sold, the setup and the mystery are all on damn point and what they've shown of the characters so far is great to leave you wanting more. Hoping it keeps it up over the rest of the season, and from what I've heard it pretty much does.
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Post by: Vector on June 04, 2022, 06:53:06 pm
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds just started.
Only 2 episodes in, but I really like what I'm seeing so far. Epic stakes of civilizations being wiped out and wars being started, but the crew handles it all with calm professionalism in way that reminds me of the classic Star Trek shows, and has been missing from the more recent series.

I love this new incarnation of Trek. It's very understandable (to me) that they'd whiff a little with Discovery -- it really just needed to do better than Enterprise did, and so far it's succeeding in that. There's a lot of things that I like and dislike about Disco.

BUT

I'm a 60s-Star-Trek-only kind of jerk and it's because they made episodes that spoke to real problems that people were having at the time that the show was written. Also because of the bizarre camp and costuming that pervaded the series. I was really worried that they would take Strange New Worlds and use it as an opportunity to not have queers and Black people and women on their show anymore, but that hasn't happened. They are going for broke and pushing the envelope regarding the kinds of stories they want to tell and the things they want to do, PLUS the show has humor, PLUS there's even a little camp. As a treat.

Spoiler: Episode 3 spoilers (click to show/hide)

I thought I was gonna hate it, but man ... it's my new favorite thing and I'm willing to pay for a subscription indefinitely if they'll keep making it for me. $2.50 a week to see Cadet Uhura and friends go on adventures? Anytime! Anywhere!

I normally pay as little as possible for TV but I'm committing to stop mainlining media that teaches me to hate myself, which sometimes means you're going to have to fork over some funds. Yes. I dunno. It's a huge relief to have an hour every week that I'm excited about.
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Post by: TD1 on June 09, 2022, 02:58:11 pm
Just started Season Three of Netflix's Lucifer.

I really like it, but I'm not entirely sure why. The who dunnit element isn't very gripping, that's for sure.

Possibly the character development/music/cinematography?
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Post by: hector13 on June 09, 2022, 04:47:54 pm
The characters are assuredly the best part of it.
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Post by: McTraveller on June 10, 2022, 02:38:12 pm
I watched some of Lucifer... stopped halfway through the season where the "mother" showed up? Just kind of lost interest.

Stranger Things 4 is definitely a bit more horror/gore than in past seasons. Seems like this should be the final season in the series? The kids are getting older, seems to be wrapping up plot lines.  Still a good show though!  And their team that is responsible for making it period-correct has it right on. I'm always like "We had those plates! I had that phone!"

And am I the only one who things that Obi-Wan is just kind of meh?
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Post by: EuchreJack on June 10, 2022, 02:55:53 pm
And am I the only one who things that Obi-Wan is just kind of meh?

That is surprising, since its the same actor as the prequel movies.

Less surprising since it's Disney trying to milk an existing franchise to death.
Like, when Disney bought Star Wars, I was happy that Star Wars would NEVER die, but sad because I knew what Disney would do with it.
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Post by: McTraveller on June 10, 2022, 03:09:20 pm
I think if it wasn't McGregor, it would be bad.  Even a great actor can't save meh writing.  I mean the storyline is... ugh. I feel like the main antagonist is very one-dimensional for example.  Like... surprise me maybe?  And way too much CGI.  Give me practical effects please.  I mean c'mon Disney, you have the budget for it.
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Post by: EuchreJack on June 10, 2022, 03:12:46 pm
I think if it wasn't McGregor, it would be bad.  Even a great actor can't save meh writing.  I mean the storyline is... ugh. I feel like the main antagonist is very one-dimensional for example.  Like... surprise me maybe?  And way too much CGI.  Give me practical effects please.  I mean c'mon Disney, you have the budget for it.
...you're apparently unfamiliar with how Disney does business.
Spend lots on building the franchise, then spend little on products created with the franchise.

Also: Who's excited for Star Wars On Ice?The Ice Show based on Star Wars I just made up that Disney will probably do
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on June 10, 2022, 04:35:05 pm
I think if it wasn't McGregor, it would be bad.  Even a great actor can't save meh writing.  I mean the storyline is... ugh. I feel like the main antagonist is very one-dimensional for example.  Like... surprise me maybe?  And way too much CGI.  Give me practical effects please.  I mean c'mon Disney, you have the budget for it.
I find the constant focus on child Leia annoying. Boardering on unintentionally funny, actually. I find the inquisitor´s insistence in interrogating a frigging 10 year old child almost like something out of a muppets movie.
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Post by: Rolan7 on June 10, 2022, 09:55:23 pm
Huh, that does sound old-lore-appropriate though.  EU novels of the time had young Leia training herself against interrogation despite being a "princess", presumably because she was aware of how important certain Organa secrets were.  And maybe unconsciously her jedi legacy.
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Post by: lemon10 on June 12, 2022, 12:53:55 am
Just binge watched Mushoku Tensei after reading the light novel like ten million years ago. And honestly, I really liked it despite the objectionable stuff.

The thing that stuck out most for me is that unlike a ton of other Isekai the dude has an meaningful actual personality before his Isekai, and the stuff that happened to him in his previously life matter for anything besides magical Isekai knowledge in actual bad ways.


As usual the problematic stuff largely got watered down by the media shift from light novel->anime, thus the only truly creepy thing went from ~5k words to 2 sentences and I probably wouldn't have even really noticed it as anything other then the MC being pervy like usual.
Still, the fact that it had such a big place in the source material does make enjoying the series kind of problematic.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on June 24, 2022, 11:06:14 am
I'm a 60s-Star-Trek-only kind of jerk and it's because they made episodes that spoke to real problems that people were having at the time that the show was written.

Have you checked out The Orville?
Just 4 episodes into the third season and they've already tackled racism, suicide, abortion, inappropriate workplace romance, fake news and politics. All while still making time for mysterious space-monsters and holodeck shenanigans.

It's a very strong season so far.
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Post by: Vector on June 24, 2022, 11:25:46 am
I saw a couple of episodes when the first season came out but got sick of the pairing in the middle of it real fast. I should try seeing some more huh :V

(I will say that I texted my friend repeatedly about the orchestral arrangement. I was extremely impressed.)
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Post by: hector13 on June 26, 2022, 01:34:15 am
My wife and I decided to watch the Marvel Universe things in timeline order.

Finished off the movies, most of which are pretty good, and I’m glad one of the things that really bothered me in Infinity War was explored and rectified in Endgame, even if Endgame was a bit underwhelming as an end to everything, partly because my favourite character dies.

Anyhow, watched Loki which I had been looking forward to low key, and was hugely disappointed. Bad acting, bad writing, I don’t know if there was some bad directing because of how Tom Hiddleston was acting in some scenes or if he really just isn’t that good an actor if he has to do more than overact as a villain, though again, with what he had to work with…

Not all that enamoured with the first couple of episodes of What If either, but as my wife said, they’ve already told the story, there’s not much point exploring scenarios that didn’t happen, even excusing the gaping plot hole in the first episode and the Mary Sue-esque escapades in the second.

WandaVision received a rave review from the BBC, but based on what I’ve seen so far, I’m thinking I may need to lower my expectations.

Also, as a big Star Wars fan, I am getting quite anxious about what this may mean for the quality of those series.
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Post by: TD1 on June 27, 2022, 03:20:58 am
Obi Wan Kenobi has loads of rave reviews, but I wouldn't buy into the hype. It's quite good in places, but not stellar (in the five episodes I've seen).
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Post by: scriver on June 27, 2022, 05:45:30 am
I haven't seen either Mandalorian or Obi-Wan, but while my impressions of Mandalorian is mostly good by expectations on Obi-Wan can be summed up with these two images:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The first one and the budget store pinhead in the second one are supposed to be the same species, as they appear in Episode III and Obi-Wan respectively.

And sure, it's ridiculous to expect blockbuster movie production values for a tv-show. But really, Disney, was all you could muster a make up job that would have looked lazy in Star Trek: TNG, let alone 40 years later?
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Post by: McTraveller on July 08, 2022, 03:28:59 pm
Just started watching The Boys.  Impressed so far.


Spoiler: edit (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Folly on July 09, 2022, 10:19:36 pm
I just finished watching all three current seasons of Snowpiercer.

I avoided this show until recently because all I picked up from the ads and commercials was that it's a show about a train in the snow. And that just failed to grab my interest. So allow me to explain briefly what this show is about.
Snowpiercer is set in a world where scientists attempt to combat global warming by inducing global cooling. They overshoot, and the entire world ends up 200 degrees below 0. As things are cooling down, a super-rich guy hires a brilliant engineer to build a magic train with a perpetual engine, which generates more power than it consumes. So the train can keep going forever without fuel, and as long as it's going fast enough the passengers have heat and electricity.
Within the train, 1001 cars long, is an entire ecosystem; complete with gardens and pastures housing plants and animals to provide the various creature comforts that the humans onboard require. Still, limited resources and the fact that half of the passengers are wealthy elitist assholes leads to inevitable fighting between the various factions that form onboard Snowpiercer. And that drama is what the show is about.

One of my most noteworthy takeaways from this show is that is feels like every episode has a different writer, with nobody in charge to keep things orderly. Rivalries and romances are initiated almost every episode, only to be forgotten or contradicted in the next episode. Big mysteries are built up, and then never resolved. It can be rather disorienting at times. But this also kind of helps keep things moving along, without ever getting bogged down. So it's not entirely unforgivable.

Overall, Snowpiercer was a fairly enjoyable watch. And I'll be tuning back in for Season 4, which seems poised to be the last.


I also just finished Season 3 of The Boys.

This one focused on Homelander's origins, and an effort by The Boys to finally remove him from the picture.
We got a look at Black Noir's origins as well, which were every bit as messy and f'ed up as we've come to expect from this IP.
This season also had The Boys stumble upon the identity of the Head Popper, completely by random chance, and then do absolutely nothing with that knowledge the rest of the season. Which I found infuriating.
My main gripe with this season was how Homelander's son changed sides after a weak 15-second speech, and absolutely no other buildup. That little plotline definitely could have benefited from more time.
Also, I'm not really sure where they're going with The Deep. I kinda felt like his entire purpose existing in this season was to watch him suffer as retribution for what he did in Season 1. And it's become wearisome.

Still, this season deleted a few old characters, brought others back into the picture, expanded the world lore both backwards and forwards. Overall I'm quite happy, and looking forward to more.
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Post by: Rolan7 on July 09, 2022, 10:30:58 pm
...Huh.  I didn't know they were making a series based on the movie.

Season 4..?!  It's already a small setting!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on July 09, 2022, 10:35:35 pm
...Huh.  I didn't know they were making a series based on the movie.

The movie was based on a French graphic novel. Lots of space for remixing based on the premise I think.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on July 10, 2022, 04:57:11 pm
I finished watching Season 4 of Stranger Things.

I was fairly disappointed with seasons 2 and 3. They felt like mere iterations upon the first season; slightly bigger and meaner versions of the same monsters and mysteries without really adding anything new. So I went into Season 4 expecting more of the same, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Season 4 finally answers many of the longstanding questions about the origins of Eleven, and the connection between Hawkins and the Upside Down. The fourth season also set the scene in a big way for the fifth and final season.

I almost slept on this one, but I'm glad I came back to Stranger Things and can't wait for the finale!
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Post by: Great Order on July 11, 2022, 01:45:35 am
So, I binged and finished off The Boys.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Il Palazzo on July 11, 2022, 06:16:43 am

So, I binged and finished off The Boys.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've only seen a few random clips from the last couple seasons, and the general feeling I'm getting from seeing somebody die is that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on July 11, 2022, 01:18:27 pm
the general feeling I'm getting from seeing somebody die is that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That is the general motto of pretty much any superhero story. And indeed, in The Boys all supes seem to have some degree of healing factor, and this most recent season did establish that organ transplants are a thing for supes. Still, Black Noir experienced...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So yeah, we may see Black Noir again. On the other hand, massive-overkill deaths and dealing with loss a also very much what The Boys is about.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 11, 2022, 04:45:14 pm
In the comic books V infusions could be used as a resurrection serum on dead heroes. All of the ones brought back were zombie like and brain damaged
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on July 11, 2022, 05:14:07 pm
I. . . am watching RuPaul's Drag Race :V
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on July 16, 2022, 10:11:45 pm
I watched Resident Evil. It was shite.

Why is writing a main character that makes sensible decisions apparently so difficult? I mean, any character really, but it was most egregious with the protagonist in this.

So many inconsistencies (at the end of one episode, the sister of the protagonist brings up something she’s anxious about and is reassured by the protagonist, at the start of the next episode the protagonist is the one worried about it and being reassured by her sister) and so many utterly bizarre decisions made by so many characters that just don’t make sense. It’s hugely frustrating.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on July 17, 2022, 03:00:49 am
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(at the end of one episode, the sister of the protagonist brings up something she’s anxious about and is reassured by the protagonist, at the start of the next episode the protagonist is the one worried about it and being reassured by her sister)

Ah yes the Walking Dead character development method.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on July 19, 2022, 04:41:01 pm
Quote from: The Boys
SOME SCENES MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR SOME, REALLY MOST, LET'S BE HONEST ALL VIEWERS. BUT REST ASSURED THAT ANY CONSENSUAL RELATIONSHIPS DEPICTED, BE THEY HUMAN, ANIMAL, SUPERHERO, OR OTHER, AREN'T REAL, HARMED NO ONE, AND IN FACT COST A HILARIOUSLY LARGE AMOUNT IN VISUAL EFFECTS.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 20, 2022, 05:49:40 am
I watched the first episode of that new RE. Loved the film series even when it wasn't taking itself seriously at all. But couldn't get past the god awful editing of episode 1. Glad I didn't stick with it
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on July 20, 2022, 11:58:07 am
I really don’t like Paul WS Anderson movies because they tend to have braindead characters in them, and I don’t mean the zombies.

I think I had some level of enjoyment for the first two RE movies despite this, but when the start of the third has a big group in a hugely armored school bus, they stop at a motel for supplies, send only two of their number in who then immediately split up, one of them gets attacked and bitten by a zombie and fails to inform anyone despite the knowledge he’s putting everyone at risk, the other guy doesn’t go “hey you’re looking a bit winded, you good?” when they meet up again, it means my suspension of disbelief has been shaken to pieces already and I need to watch something with more sensible people.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 20, 2022, 03:17:42 pm
I liked the premise of the Resident Evil 1 movie. It was simple yet effective. And I liked that it kind of sticks to the Aristothelian concept of unity of time in playwrights (ie: the duration of the movie roughly matches the time scale of the story within the movie)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on July 21, 2022, 03:54:00 am
The first couple of Resident Evil movies played on the nostalgia of the old PSX games the RE1 mansion in the 1st movie and the RE2 city in the 2nd, they worked very well for me for that reason. After that the further movies didn't do much for me as it seemed they had no real idea what to do with the franchise, they even tried a mad max with zombie in one of them only to go back to ultratech scifi in another....

I wonder if there's a zombie themed movie/show in which the characters involved aren't going completely stupid at a point or another and fill one of those :

"My group has survived for years and is so very experienced at dealing with zombies, but main characters arrived, suddenly we all die to zombies !"
"Oh zombies are coming from the right, they're noisy but i'll turn my back to them and look to the left and pretend i don't see them coming !"
"An ominous looking building, let's go inside without absolutely checking every windows or opening first !"
"It's just a nasty-looking wound, no need to treat it or use disinfectant i'll just put a piece of cloth over it, it will go away on its own !"
"Zombies are sensible to noise ? I'll shout as much as i can instead of whispering, what could go wrong anyways !"
"I need to go to my objective in the wilderness, but there is a whole building full of zombie between me and it, let's go right into that building instead of circling around it !"
"We're a huge group, but let's send that guy alone in that building, it's completelty safe for him !"
"Our big armed squad that survived for years, how about we suddenly panic and can't shoot straight anymore or let the zombies come a lot closer before shooting ?"
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2022, 07:33:37 pm
I'm also watching AJ and the Queen, which is the Logan sequel I never knew I needed ;)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 21, 2022, 08:15:50 pm
Better Call Saul is starting to close up, but they did my boy Howard dirty D;
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on July 21, 2022, 08:20:47 pm
I wonder if there's a zombie themed movie/show in which the characters involved aren't going completely stupid at a point or another and fill one of those :
Have you seen Fido? They're extremely pragmatic in that one.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Rolan7 on July 21, 2022, 08:47:06 pm
Better Call Saul is starting to close up, but they did my boy Howard dirty D;
Oh no ):
I should catch up, I think my dad just saw the last season.  Caught me by surprise because Breaking Bad didn't catch his attention at all, but they *are* very different shows.  I did feel like BCS was very good beyond the prequel-factor, but it's nice to have confirmation.  And being able to chat about it my dad as he progressed was fun too!  I couldn't resist hinting that Howard wasn't quite as bad as indicated...  Dad still enjoyed the big reveal.

wholesome~
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on July 22, 2022, 03:00:02 am
The first couple of Resident Evil movies played on the nostalgia of the old PSX games the RE1 mansion in the 1st movie and the RE2 city in the 2nd, they worked very well for me for that reason. After that the further movies didn't do much for me as it seemed they had no real idea what to do with the franchise, they even tried a mad max with zombie in one of them only to go back to ultratech scifi in another....

I wonder if there's a zombie themed movie/show in which the characters involved aren't going completely stupid at a point or another and fill one of those :

"My group has survived for years and is so very experienced at dealing with zombies, but main characters arrived, suddenly we all die to zombies !"
"Oh zombies are coming from the right, they're noisy but i'll turn my back to them and look to the left and pretend i don't see them coming !"
"An ominous looking building, let's go inside without absolutely checking every windows or opening first !"
"It's just a nasty-looking wound, no need to treat it or use disinfectant i'll just put a piece of cloth over it, it will go away on its own !"
"Zombies are sensible to noise ? I'll shout as much as i can instead of whispering, what could go wrong anyways !"
"I need to go to my objective in the wilderness, but there is a whole building full of zombie between me and it, let's go right into that building instead of circling around it !"
"We're a huge group, but let's send that guy alone in that building, it's completelty safe for him !"
"Our big armed squad that survived for years, how about we suddenly panic and can't shoot straight anymore or let the zombies come a lot closer before shooting ?"

The last two years have proven beyond a doubt that people acting stupid in zombie media is realistic. If anything they overestimate real human intelligence.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on July 22, 2022, 04:04:02 am
If something stupid can happen it's gonna happen, especially in a movie.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on July 22, 2022, 11:57:48 am
I am watching Only Murders in the Building on Hulu, and am enjoying it so far.

There is one episode which focuses on a deaf character, and there is no sound (bits of incidental music) which I thought was pretty cool.

Also very funny in that it’s following them surreptitiously lip reading other people and that section ends with them turning to the camera and signing “everyone in this city talks too fucking much”, but you might expect that from Steve Martin and Martin Short.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on July 22, 2022, 09:41:38 pm
I'm also watching AJ and the Queen, which is the Logan sequel I never knew I needed ;)

I cannot fucking believe that they canceled this campy monstrosity. How dare they. How dare.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 26, 2022, 03:35:49 pm
So I saw Mad God in the movie theatre and this is definitely going under that odd category of films I want to recommend to everyone and also recommend that no one ever watch it. It's an achievement, but is also capable of inducing great distress or despair in audiences. Combined with a very relaxing soundtrack and just all round oddness, I can recommend it to horror fans with Herman Melville's religious anxieties or a Kafkan atheist intellectual ritualism and an appreciation of stop motion art and diesel trench aesthetic. I might make a full review of it later but I need to sleep. It's rare to have a film make people stop breathing and then laugh. Certain scenes possessed a level of cruelty which felt very genuine, and caused much disgust in critics. Often you see films that try to be edgy or try to shock, but this one is not trying to be either. There is a sincerity which permeates everything, and I am grateful for the laborious work which was put into it, even if I haven't yet decided whether I could recommend this film to others or not.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on July 27, 2022, 05:59:33 am
I also saw Mad God recently and I liked it, not really something I could accurately describe and I probably wouldn't be able to do it justice with my shitty description anyway.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: TD1 on July 27, 2022, 05:08:35 pm
So I saw Mad God in the movie theatre and this is definitely going under that odd category of films I want to recommend to everyone and also recommend that no one ever watch it. It's an achievement, but is also capable of inducing great distress or despair in audiences. Combined with a very relaxing soundtrack and just all round oddness, I can recommend it to horror fans with Herman Melville's religious anxieties or a Kafkan atheist intellectual ritualism and an appreciation of stop motion art and diesel trench aesthetic. I might make a full review of it later but I need to sleep. It's rare to have a film make people stop breathing and then laugh. Certain scenes possessed a level of cruelty which felt very genuine, and caused much disgust in critics. Often you see films that try to be edgy or try to shock, but this one is not trying to be either. There is a sincerity which permeates everything, and I am grateful for the laborious work which was put into it, even if I haven't yet decided whether I could recommend this film to others or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jas8OABbn0Y
Well that's disturbing.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on July 28, 2022, 06:50:19 am
As I can't (easily) find the Doctor Who thread that I'm sure is there somewhere, coming here to say RIP Wilfred Mott (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13099773) (and others, but probably the singular most widely known of his many characters, amongst the DF-focussed demographic).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: TD1 on July 28, 2022, 09:06:38 am
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Little could dent his ambition, even a horrific accident in a production of Macbeth.

The play ended with the usual sword fight between Macbeth and Macduff. To save money on expensive fake swords, real ones were used instead. The actor playing Macbeth, Harold Norman, was fatally stabbed in front of him.
Wait what
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on July 28, 2022, 09:33:03 am
How the fuck are fake swords more expensive than real ones?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on July 28, 2022, 09:34:17 am
A glut on the market..?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on July 28, 2022, 09:51:46 am
Too many historical reenactors is the problem.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on July 28, 2022, 10:23:54 am
Been binging Better Call Saul while I sit around at home with Covid.

Avoided it for the longest time, mostly because I don't watch much TV at all, and for two I felt it was derivative of Breaking Bad and probably wouldn't be good.

Turns out, it's a really well made show. The cinematography is great and scenes really manage to draw you in.

That said, in terms of plot......eeeeehhhhhhhhh.

For the first three seasons, I found myself getting really weary of the Jimmy/Chuck plotline. So many moments of those seasons are just the same thing over and over again....Chuck wrapped in a space blanket. Later on, it's Kim saying "Okay" in a flat, disappointed way.

And I feel like it's emblematic of the show: waffling between two ideas and making multiple seasons out of it.

Jimmy and Kim epitomize this. "Oh I want to do X!" <literally the same episode> "Actually I don't want to do that." Rinse and repeat with a slightly different idea across an entire season.

Like, you would have expected by Season 3, Kim would be over Jimmy's shit. That she's the responsible, moral one. But then I guess she gets bored or the writers were like "we need some hijinks!" and she throws out her morality for an episode before getting back on point. I was getting so bored with Jimmy waffling between being a real lawyer and being Saul Goodman in Season 2/3 that I almost quit watching.

It's a good show, don't get me wrong. But binging it you can really see the structure of the ideas clearly laid out, and the show essentially doesn't go anywhere until Season 5 in terms of Jimmy and Kim's stories.

The Gus Fring/Don Hector/Mike/Nacho plotlines are good and feel like a real offshoot of Breaking Bad. It's a welcomed contrast to the Jimmy/Kim stuff.

All in all I'm glad I finally watched it. It's a quality show with maybe average ideas at play. Or at least, not enough ideas at play.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on August 01, 2022, 10:47:30 am
First, not that this is an Obituary thread[1], but obviously you'll all have already heard mention of Nichelle "Uhura" Nichols moving on to find out whatever frontier lies even more beyond the final one. I didn't want to dismiss this so tritely, but I'm not going to do her justice anyway. So even though this aside is worse than anything I failed to post yesterday, here's my marker of the event, for posterity. Just before a big mood-swing in the other direction...



So, anyway, in a Viewers' Poll (in the UK) of the best TV shows in the last 25 years, tied for 3rd place were Sherlock (needs no description?) and Line Of Duty (police 'procedural'), with Doctor Who in 2nd.

In first place is Call The Midwife. Which, if you don't know it, is set in the late-middle 20th century, spanning a time of social changes that probably really tests the props, costume and locality departments, following the work of midwives servicing the mothers(-to-be) of London's east-end.

And in the description I'm reading here, it's described as a Period Drama. Yet surely, almost all the drama arises for entirely the opposite reason!

 8)



[1] I don't think there's one on Bay12, nor would I necessarily want one created.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on August 01, 2022, 11:11:28 am
First, not that this is an Obituary thread, but obviously you'll all have already heard mention of Nichelle "Uhura" Nichols moving on to find out whatever frontier lies even more beyond the final one. I didn't want to dismiss this so tritely, but I'm not going to do her justice anyway. So even though this aside is worse than anything I failed to post yesterday, here's my marker of the event, for posterity. Just before a big mood-swing in the other direction...

That's very sad, as i just learned this from reading your post.

The original Star Trek serie is very ingrained in my youth as i was a kid when it was airing on TV (well, more like re-re-airing as i wasn't born when the serie was created, having only landed in that world in the seventies ), and i was rewatching every summer they decided to re-air it late night
I still have fonds memories of the whole crew and i must say that Nichelle Nichols was along with Lynda Carter one of my childhood crushes :D

Hard to believe she was already 89 as in my memories she's still as she was in the original Star Trek.

May she be at peace in Heaven.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on August 01, 2022, 11:53:37 am
First, not that this is an Obituary thread[1], but obviously you'll all have already heard mention of Nichelle "Uhura" Nichols moving on to find out whatever frontier lies even more beyond the final one. I didn't want to dismiss this so tritely, but I'm not going to do her justice anyway. So even though this aside is worse than anything I failed to post yesterday, here's my marker of the event, for posterity. Just before a big mood-swing in the other direction...



So, anyway, in a Viewers' Poll (in the UK) of the best TV shows in the last 25 years, tied for 3rd place were Sherlock (needs no description?) and Line Of Duty (police 'procedural'), with Doctor Who in 2nd.

In first place is Call The Midwife. Which, if you don't know it, is set in the late-middle 20th century, spanning a time of social changes that probably really tests the props, costume and locality departments, following the work of midwives servicing the mothers(-to-be) of London's east-end.

And in the description I'm reading here, it's described as a Period Drama. Yet surely, almost all the drama arises for entirely the opposite reason!

 8)



[1] I don't think there's one on Bay12, nor would I necessarily want one created.

Is that the one with the nuns?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on August 01, 2022, 12:49:50 pm
There are nuns (it's a church-run charity scenario, at the core) but it's obviously heavy on non-nun women (including mums, nans, gals and the like). Would surely pass the Bechdel test every single episode. Even when plot points require some discussion entirely about the men currently in (or not in) the liives of the transient or arc-long non-core cast. ;)

It mostly revolves around the midwives, though, in their dealings with human kindness, official stupidity, natural capriciousness and every other comhination thereof.


Not myself watched so much of the programme, but it's feel-good on the whole, whilst not shy of tragedies and crises, dabbles into politics and social revolutions (of the era), a visual feast of 50s+ iconography in all its nostalgic forms with a very deliberate attempt at realism. The big problem for me is the story-arc stuff[1], and having not assiduously watched from the very beginning.

Bay 12: Come for the puns, stay for the half-arsed reviews!


[1] "So, that midwife was a nun, but left the order to marry the in-house doctor and (only then!) become a mum herself..." (That sort of thing. And I hear at least one cast-absence, with unrelated plot 'explanation' was of course because the actress had to have an IRL maternity break.)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Funk on August 05, 2022, 12:02:40 am
The joke is that every TV show has  some kind of twisted super hero's with an F'd up up bring.
Umbrella academy,The boys, Stranger Things, Wheel of Time.
Yep normal parting is rare an the brain cell is passed around.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on August 18, 2022, 08:07:12 am
(Very tempted to put this in the non-EU politics thread, under the guise of finding the leader replacement for the post-Johnson era, but the parallels fall short in the long-admired/well-respected/plenty-of-gravitas stakes...  :P )

The list of (serious, if tentative) replacements for Jeremy Paxman (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62561558) might mean little to non-UK readers/viewers but, while I broke into chortles in reading those named, I'm not sure I'd outright reject any of them on principle, and they were chortles of glee not outright ridiculousness. Yes, a number of them are perhaps more known for their comedy-chairpersonships (and maybe more low-brow; though QI, Only Connect and even Crystal Maze are not for intellectual slackers!), but I could see a good decade or so of competently sitting behind the top table asking "Starters for ten" for most of them, without going into the (comparatively) rapid recycling of main host of Countdown, post-Whitely...

edit: Well, that was quick. I had clearly dwelt upon the day-old announcement far too long, and not noticed that three hours ago... (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62588667) ;).I know the situation isn't the same, but the Conservative Party situation is even more unlike this one! Obviously already in the works. And a decent choice, I think. I still remember when Amol Rajan took the seat of The Media Show (Radio 4) from the late Steve Hewlett. Though that probably means even less to most people reading this post.

And sorry to all those poor benighted individuals who have absolutely no idea about much of what I write. It's probably news that doesn't mean much at all beyond the UK, and may not universally excite even within it. But it is a cultural TV thing that I thought I'd mention.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on August 18, 2022, 05:14:55 pm
Watching Sandman, really enjoying it. I unironically think Gwendolyn Christie was a fantastic casting choice for Lucifer.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on August 19, 2022, 06:33:49 am
She is pretty damn good, especially compared to a number of the other folks who are just baffling choices. I get them wanting to be true to the comics in certain things, but in that case maybe cast folks who can actually pull off an american accent properly? The biggest offenders are in the Dollhouse arc. I get that a kid probably won't be able to pull off something like that, so why not cast a US actor, they did it with Oswalt and he's wonderful as Matthew.
Other than those nitpicks, pretty good adaptation, we need more weird shit being made like this.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on August 19, 2022, 07:33:48 am
Sandman has completely failed to grip me so far. What I found myself liking the most in it, is where they recreate the look of certain panels from the books. But that's just how it feels to me - a series of nice looking scenes strung together for their own sake, rather than in the service of a story. Which is completely opposite of the books, come to think of it - the art was kinda fugly most of the time (with occasional sparks of pure genius, but still) while the story rent your heart apart.

It's nowhere near as disjointed as the Witcher, but in my mind it leans that way, which is pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on August 19, 2022, 01:20:12 pm
Honestly I don't remember the books that well, since I started reading them in elementary school and then the library ran out halfway through and I sort of forgot all about it. But I'll probably try to read the half I didn't finish at some point. I've seen 3.75 episodes so I can't say I have a fully developed opinion.

Witcher S1 was OK but had none of the charming rants that characterized the original. S2 was an unwatchable disaster and the novels are clearly far, far better.

It's nice to see a Netflix adaptation that has at least some creative character (Sandman) but I would really like to see more of their fantasy shows making genuine creative choices.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: delphonso on August 26, 2022, 08:25:00 am
I was very skeptical of a Sandman series, and am cool with never watching it. A lot of the comics were also pretty psychadelic which just wouldn't translate well from page to screen.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on August 26, 2022, 10:31:02 am
Watching Legends of Tomorrow. No pretense of depth but entertaining and that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on August 26, 2022, 02:33:25 pm
I was very skeptical of a Sandman series, and am cool with never watching it. A lot of the comics were also pretty psychadelic which just wouldn't translate well from page to screen.

FWIW I've heard nothing but positive reviews, from people that both known the comics and newcomers.

Sandman is pretty much the only comic series I read everything of. I haven't yet decided to try the series though.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: EuchreJack on August 29, 2022, 03:01:06 pm
Watching Legends of Tomorrow. No pretense of depth but entertaining and that's good enough for me.
It's a good show, at least what I saw of it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 12, 2022, 04:40:06 pm
I'm very much enjoying House of the Dragon. Feels like the first season of GoT, before the series got watered down with too many plots and too many faces travelling between too many places. It's focused on the affairs of a single family, with a small overall number of characters, so it can spend the limited time in each episode to develop them well.
The world is fun to be returning to - as long as one forgets about most of latter parts of the GoT. Which makes the insistence on periodically attempting to link the two series with portentous and foreboding talks of prophecies rather unnecessary. Can't we just focus on the here and now? Still, that's a minor nitpick.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on October 13, 2022, 12:33:20 pm
I just finished the first season of She Hulk.
Hopefully also the last.

I hated the premise. Bruce Banner and his lawyer cousin just happen to get in a car wreck together, causing a small amount of Hulk blood to splash onto Jenn, which is enough to make her a hulk. Also she gets to skip the whole angry alter ego phase purely by virtue of having a vagina.
Most of the season has absolutely no villain or greater plot to keep things going; just episodic courtroom stories juxtaposed with Jenn adapting to being a figure in the public eye, none of which was the least bit compelling.
Most of the season also had Jenn breaking the fourth wall, until the final episode saw She Hulk literally smash through it in a plot twist that would make Deadpool cringe. After that little fiasco, all of the loose plot threads from the season were simply glossed over or ignored completely, quick cameo with classic Hulk to promote his new movie, and roll credits.

I really disliked Falcon+WinterSoldier, but I think She Hulk has dethroned them as my new most hated MCU series.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on October 13, 2022, 12:42:48 pm
Wait you... watched more than one episode of She Hulk?   :o

Impressive.

I recently watched Cursed, and I'm disappointed it fell into the chasm of discontinued shows. It was a pretty unique take on Arthurian legend, and I found it entertaining enough.

I'm also fairly enjoying Rings of Power.  I am not super-familiar with the source material, and am just taking it as it is. It's an entertaining enough, well-produced show: music and visuals are fantastic.  The worst part is, even though I know what has to happen, I'm always like "ugh, couldn't you have stopped it!?"  Makes me wonder what I do in my life, that I think is obvious, but I'm missing...
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on October 13, 2022, 12:58:13 pm
Huh, was just about to write about it, tho my takeaway was vastly different than yours.

Like you I disliked the initial episodes because they felt like almost every other thing the MCU has done in the past couple of years, except with an extra thick layer of wokeness and gurrl power on top (by which I mean incredibly poorly written and hamfisted attempts to make strong and compelling female characters that tend to boil down to girls just being better and all men being shit).

But the show evolves past that, like first off, it's not really a superhero show, it's more a slice of life that just happens to have a superhero in it. A female one at that, and it deals with her approaching it from that angle and everything that would entail. What I'm still trying to figure out tho is whether or not the start of the show was made intentionally bad or not, because that shit leads directly into the stuff that happens later on. And it's rather surreal to have the show panned for that as it's introducing a storyline about the exact same shit happening to the heroine of the show where a group is trying to 'cancel' her because they think she doesn't deserve her powers because she's female.

The rest of it is pretty wild as well, without going too spoilery, but I really like the handling of the ending as it takes the by now very worn out MCU ending formula and turns it on its head. It ends up feeling like a show where the protagonist is aware of it and is actively struggling against the wishes of the writers. Granted, I don't think this can work more than once without it feeling cheap or lazy, but I'm interested in where and how they take the characters from here. Which is more than I can say for most of the rest of the MCU stuff that's coming out.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on October 13, 2022, 02:49:52 pm
She Hulk is absolutely not a slice-of-life. At most, you could say that it's a show about a protagonist who wishes she was in a slice-of-life, but is instead stuck in a poorly written superhero saga.

And the ending does not get to be good purely by virtue of being different, no matter how much they literally brag about how great they are just for doing something different.
The entire show was terrible, literally just so that at the end they could call themselves out for being terrible and then claim that they're actually great because they recognize how terrible they are. No. I'm not buying it. That's not great, it's just terrible.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on October 14, 2022, 05:08:05 am
She Hulk is absolutely not a slice-of-life. At most, you could say that it's a show about a protagonist who wishes she was in a slice-of-life, but is instead stuck in a poorly written superhero saga.

And the ending does not get to be good purely by virtue of being different, no matter how much they literally brag about how great they are just for doing something different.
The entire show was terrible, literally just so that at the end they could call themselves out for being terrible and then claim that they're actually great because they recognize how terrible they are. No. I'm not buying it. That's not great, it's just terrible.

QFT

I thiught the same. I was hoping they'd go for "slice of life" and itd be tolerable. But they went for this edgy ending that... doesnt work. It simply doesnt work for me. "Standard superhero endings  are different and we want to be different" ... well you actually have to do that ending.
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Post by: McTraveller on October 21, 2022, 09:14:43 pm
The Pentaverate

I don't do drugs, but I imagine this is what it must feel like.
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Post by: Jopax on October 29, 2022, 03:03:59 pm
To each his own I guess. To me it was one of the better offerings Marvel has put out in recent years, which isn't saying much considering the general dip in quality and creativity the MCU took after Endgame, but still.

Anyways, on to something completely different this time around.

Reservation Dogs is a Hulu show about a bunch of native teenagers living in a reservation in Oklahoma. It bills itself as a comedy drama and I guess that's an accurate way of describing a show about a bunch of folks dealing with life while occasionally it gets hilarious or weird. But it's so much more, I wanna call it a reverse-americana show but I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate or if there's an actual term for it. Where it depicts a run-down and decaying community that's still somehow holding against the odds, how the majority of the folks are broken in some way or other but hey, they keep on trucking and sticking together, more or less. And for all the humor and levity it squeezes in, it dives into some heavy shit fairly early on, in fact the majority of the first two seasons are kinda shaped by the events in question and how everyone is dealing with them.

Plus it's doing that rare thing some shows manage of getting me to learn and use weird new phrases or ways of saying things which I really like. Skoden fuckers!
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Post by: hector13 on October 29, 2022, 06:38:13 pm
It is one of these shows that is incredibly funny and also horribly depressing.
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Post by: Robsoie on October 31, 2022, 05:20:17 pm
I had read that Henry Cavill isn't going to continue as Geralt in the 4th season of The Witcher and will be replaced by Liam Hemsworth.

Slightly surprised as Cavill seemed to really be interested in the character (and was acting very well the role), having read the books and etc..  but not surprised as with the 2nd season the show became very bad fan-fiction garbage (so much i was already surprised they had a new budget allowed to make a 3rd season...) and if you're really interested in the character and the story from the books it must be disheartening to see how those TV show "writers" butchered both stories and characters.

That and he's going to star in a new Superman movie of course, meaning a lot more money coming his way :D

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Post by: scriver on October 31, 2022, 06:55:06 pm
Finally finished the third season of My Brilliant Friend (based on the Helena Ferrante books) the other week and god is that a brilliant series. I can't recommend it enough, it's probably one of my top ten tv series
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Post by: Loud Whispers on November 01, 2022, 04:22:22 am
Finally finished the third season of My Brilliant Friend (based on the Helena Ferrante books) the other week and god is that a brilliant series. I can't recommend it enough, it's probably one of my top ten tv series
What's it about

I had read that Henry Cavill isn't going to continue as Geralt in the 4th season of The Witcher and will be replaced by Liam Hemsworth.

Slightly surprised as Cavill seemed to really be interested in the character (and was acting very well the role), having read the books and etc..  but not surprised as with the 2nd season the show became very bad fan-fiction garbage (so much i was already surprised they had a new budget allowed to make a 3rd season...) and if you're really interested in the character and the story from the books it must be disheartening to see how those TV show "writers" butchered both stories and characters.

That and he's going to star in a new Superman movie of course, meaning a lot more money coming his way :D
Yeah the moment the witcher stopped being about the witchers and went off-road drifting into the most generic YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE with chars just teleporting everywhere the plot needed them to be I got very bored. Especially when that one sinister general dude just accepted the coup against him, the murder of all his loyal lieutenants, and kept defending that one sorcerer even though she no longer had any leverage over him? Puzzling
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Post by: scriver on November 01, 2022, 08:39:53 am
Finally finished the third season of My Brilliant Friend (based on the Helena Ferrante books) the other week and god is that a brilliant series. I can't recommend it enough, it's probably one of my top ten tv series
What's it about

It's a... time-piece, I guess I could improvise a genre, about Italy in the post-WW2 decades, as seen from the perspective of the intellectually gifted girl Elena "Lenu" Greco who grows up in the Neapolitan slums. Topically it's about nationalism (Neapolitan vs (north) Italian) and national identity and national shame, class struggle and class guilt, fascism and socialism and feminism, the nature of the mafia's relationship with the lower class that they prey on, and Lenu's fellow children/youths of the slum, and of course her complicated relationship with her complicated titular friend.

Great production values, great actors, very relatable characters, made by HBO together with an Italian network in the Italian language (or Neapolitan? I wouldn't be able to tell). Based on the trilogy by Helena Ferrante, a supposed autobiographical trilogy written under a pseudonym that's still a secret; allegedly great books in themselves but I have not read them.
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Post by: Magmacube_tr on November 01, 2022, 01:00:09 pm
awul haus
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Post by: Folly on November 05, 2022, 07:08:51 pm
I watched a couple of episodes of the Quantum Leap reboot. That was enough for me.

First episode culminated with the pacifist/nerd character punching the bad guy in the face in order to safely and easily incapacitate him with a single blow. Then he disposed of the bomb by throwing it in the sewer, ran to a safe distance, and he still felt the need to do a superman-dive away from the controlled explosion far behind him. At this point I've got a pretty good idea of what kind of show this is going to be.

The first episode also set up a halfway interesting mystery, where the main character started acting in an unexpected manner, breaking into his office and reprogramming his computers for no apparent reason. Now, it's a time travel show, so it's pretty obvious to me that this is a future version of him with motives we have not yet learned about; weirdly none of the other characters seem to pick up on this. Still, I'm mildly curious to find out what's going on, so I watch a second episode. The second episode is a completely self-contained arc, and it's now apparent to me that the rest of this show is going to be like this, only returning to the main arc in the finale. And yeah, watching a bunch of short stories full of poorly executed cliches just to eventually get back to something I barely care about...nope. Two episodes and I'm done.
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Post by: McTraveller on November 26, 2022, 07:14:36 pm
Dark

I'm thoroughly enjoying this.  (And how is this show 5 years old!?)
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Post by: hector13 on November 26, 2022, 08:32:07 pm
Finished watching a competition show called Baking Impossible which was quite interesting.

The premise is 9 teams comprising of 1 baker and 1 engineer compete to win $100k in various engineering feats which have to constructed from baked goods.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on November 27, 2022, 09:51:28 am
Finished watching a competition show called Baking Impossible which was quite interesting.

The premise is 9 teams comprising of 1 baker and 1 engineer compete to win $100k in various engineering feats which have to constructed from baked goods.
A set of eclair stairways, or the eclairway
A pedestrian crossing made of croissants
Toast that falls jam side down
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Post by: Great Order on November 27, 2022, 09:57:57 am
The Golden Crepe Bridge.
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Post by: hector13 on November 27, 2022, 10:49:34 am
They get increasingly difficult as the competition goes on.

Highlights being a car that gets crash tested (they are given a basic chassis to build around) and a 5ft tall skyscraper that gets earthquake tested.
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Post by: scriver on November 27, 2022, 02:19:58 pm
Ridiculous.

Sounds like a very fun idea ;)
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Post by: Starver on November 27, 2022, 05:31:34 pm
I could imagine them making a practical hand-Baguette, for the stylish lady with no pockets.

And a nice pair of Loafers for her husband.

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Post by: hector13 on November 27, 2022, 06:11:46 pm
There is a fashion show at one point also.
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Post by: King Zultan on November 28, 2022, 03:11:35 am
But did someone make a suit of armour out of baguettes?
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Post by: hector13 on November 28, 2022, 03:37:21 am
But did someone make a suit of armour out of baguettes?

They made a suit of armor out of pasta.
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Post by: Rolan7 on November 28, 2022, 11:59:29 am
Weebs love onigri and gyoza but ackshually they HAVE to fold that much just to APPROACH the strength of Europe's naturally high-gluten doughs
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Post by: Loud Whispers on December 01, 2022, 07:46:17 am
Weebs love onigri and gyoza but ackshually they HAVE to fold that much just to APPROACH the strength of Europe's naturally high-gluten doughs
That's nothing on glorious 5,000 year folded Chinese noodles doughy enough to ensnare GOD
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 01, 2022, 10:20:14 am
Everyone's singing praises of Andor. Too bad I have zero star fucks to give at this point.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 01, 2022, 10:26:58 am
I only watched the first episode of Andor and didn't really find it that compelling.
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Post by: Starver on December 01, 2022, 11:01:50 am
With a lot of that stuff being on subscription telly (and far too many subscription options, reinforcing my current decision to choose none of them) I'm going to have to take everyone's word for it, and I'm certainly not going to start announcing that I'm poking my nose into any of the more underhanded feeds of that sort of thing.

Yeah, I'm tempted by Paramount+, Disney+, Amazon Prime and of course the OG that is Netflix (their app came pre-installed on this tablet but, like Twitter, has never been deliberately used... though I let it update). I've seen a number of other 'free' streaming services advertised on game-ads, but given they're mixed between cryptocurrency exchange ads and "free cash-for-play!" variations that I wouldn't touch with a bargepole...


Still, one day they may appear on the standard free-to-air broadcast channels (such that I notice them, and they're on a multiplex that isn't juddery/intermittent to view). I have a small backlog of things like Lucifer sitting on a DVR box, for example. And I've still got the second episode of the Lego Masters Australia grand final to watch, I hope.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on December 01, 2022, 01:49:32 pm
I only watched the first episode of Andor and didn't really find it that compelling.
One of my friends described it as being fed so much mediocrity that he forgot what an ok show looked like. I never bothered with anything netflix/amazon/disney though and I think it's not worth your time
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Post by: Robsoie on December 01, 2022, 02:12:59 pm
I know we're in the age of everything is bad (and sometime it really is that bad, angrily looking at season 2 of Witcher) but to my surprise Wednesday didn't disapointed me and i really enjoyed this Tim Burton take on the Addams Family.
I would have changed a couple of things as i wasn't very happy on some of the stuff but overall it was a very good time (and the "i never blink" actress was entirely spot on her role, she was brillant) and after several garbage series finally made me not angry at a tv show and gave me a good smile.

On another series, i never heard about the Cabinet of Curiosities so i didn't knew what to expect, but so far it's good enough as it play on my nostalgia by reminding me a lot of the horror genre from Elvira/Tales from the Crypt/etc.. collections of mini stories stuff from the eigthies and nineties.
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Post by: hector13 on December 01, 2022, 03:26:12 pm
Isn’t the Witcher TV series based on the books?

What’s so bad about it?
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 01, 2022, 03:27:57 pm
Mainly how shit it is. :P
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Post by: Loud Whispers on December 01, 2022, 03:33:55 pm
Isn’t the Witcher TV series based on the books?

What’s so bad about it?
All the parts where they stop being based on the books. The show writers are one of those peoples who hate the material they're adapting but don't have the ability to work on projects they care about, so they try turn the projects they're assigned to into the story they do want to tell
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Post by: hector13 on December 01, 2022, 03:39:26 pm
It wasn’t that bad.

Then again I have no knowledge of the source material beyond the small parts of the games I’ve played and thus have nothing to compare against.

In saying that, I stopped watching Game of Thrones was because they veered so hard from the books at some point in the fifth season that I couldn’t be bothered with it anymore, and have some distaste for the BladeRunner movie because it also doesn’t follow the book quite so much.
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Post by: Robsoie on December 01, 2022, 05:35:32 pm
Sometime i wish i hadn't read the books, while the first volume wasn't really taking me in, the story and characters really grew up on me with the 2nd one and it got better and better until the abrupt end in the 5th book (and the 6th book", Season of Storms," fortunately gave me back some hope at its epilogue :D ) . But maybe if i had not read the books i would have been much less angry at what those netflix "writers" did.

I felt the 1st season of the netflix series was mediocre, not really bad but not really good either, Cavill was really doing great at playing Geralt and Chalotra after a difficult start finally was starting to grow on me at playing Yennefer. In term of story it wasn't too close to the book but in the same time it wasn't too far excepted for Cahir that was simply a completely different character for the worst in the netflix story ... what the hell did they thought by doing that ...

But the 2nd season ... i can't understand why they decided to say "fuck the books, i'll do my own fan fiction instead", probably those tv writers suddenly thinking "bah i'm a super tv writer and i'm paid a lot by netflix so i can and will rewrite that crap i don't even like better!!!" , at least they really proved they were really doing a paid job as if  they had even a minor interest in the books storyline they certainly wouldn't have done that, because that season was simply complete shit in term of storytelling, pacing with nearly nothing in common with the actual Witcher stories it is supposed to adapt.
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Post by: TD1 on December 01, 2022, 07:55:52 pm
The second Witcher season was okay. But definitely much blander than the first.

I also feel they mischaracterised Geralt in places.


As for Wednesday, it was definitely worth watching. My only gripe is that the family members seem like discount-Addamses. With the noteworthy exception of Thing, the rest simply lacked the chemistry I've come to expect.

Particularly between Gomez and Morticia. There was none of the wild, desperate love I expected - instead I was given plastic, simpering dependence. Flashback Gomez was more on point, actually. Or... en garde?  :P

Which is not to say I wouldn't recommend it. Thing, Wednesday herself and the new characters more than ably carry the plot. And that dance....!
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Post by: Starver on December 01, 2022, 09:16:10 pm
and have some distaste for the BladeRunner movie because it also doesn’t follow the book quite so much.
Compared to the so-called I Robot, it positively hugs Do Androids Dream Of Electronic Sheep in a death-clinch!

(Also, which version of Blade Runner? The original release, the Director's Cut or another version..? Seriously, I once saw it on TV, and it was a seemingly rejigged version that matched neither of the main versions and they somehow messed the plot(s) around even more. I suppose I could IMDb for the details, but this was before IMDb (well, before its Cardiff incarnation) and I didn't have that kind of resource at hand, right then.)

And what do you think about 2001: A Space Odyssey, book (of that title) vs. film? ;) ...especially given that the 2010 book uses the 2001 film variations in backstory!
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Post by: hector13 on December 01, 2022, 09:55:59 pm
I think I have the biggest issue with the director’s cut because that’s the one that most insinuates Deckard is a replicant, and I think it also doesn’t focus on replicants entirely lacking empathy as much, which is a major component of the book.

However, it has been a while since I have read the book and seen the movie, and I am horribly sleep deprived at the best of times these days so my memory ain’t what it used to be to have a well-reasoned discourse on it.

I think it’s an example to myself that I shouldn’t allow my feelings on the source material to influence on something created from it, since (at least in this specific instance) they’re each enjoyable in their own way.
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Post by: scriver on December 02, 2022, 08:48:19 am
Did you know that Bladerunner was also a book called Bladerunner, which has nothing to do with Electric Sheep, but which the director found and liked the name of so he bought the movie rights to it and later used the name for his Electric Sheep filmatisation?

I've always felt a little bad for that Bladerunner.
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Post by: Magmacube_tr on December 03, 2022, 04:33:43 am
Disney first shortened the third Owl House season into three specials, and cancelled the four. You know why? Because the officals are homophobic bitches and they did it because Lumity exists. And after ALL that, seeing the gargantuan backlash and their missed chance to capitalise on the popularity, they are now all "sowwy" about it.

Yeah, it turns out a significant amount of people have no qualms about queers.

BRING MY GAY WITCH SHOW BACK YOU WRETCHED ANTHROPOMORPHIC SEWAGE RAT!

I WANT NEED MY BEACH EPISODE AND HUNTER GETTING THERAPY!
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Post by: Starver on December 03, 2022, 01:28:59 pm
(Hadn't heard of the series, went to Wikipedia, foremost/leading voice-artist is the most obviously unlinked subject of the article. So clearly someone new on the scene and not from the usual repertory company/overused central-casting. Hopefully she'll have her foot in the door now, and earn the wikipage with a filmography/TVography of some kind. Though not at too much expense for the very next hopeful. Assuming she's any good, but I presume there wouldn't be the complaints at its cancelling if she was so bad... ;) )
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Post by: Folly on December 04, 2022, 06:46:16 pm
Disney first shortened the third Owl House season into three specials, and cancelled the four. You know why? Because the officals are homophobic bitches and they did it because Lumity exists. And after ALL that, seeing the gargantuan backlash and their missed chance to capitalise on the popularity, they are now all "sowwy" about it.
Yeah, it turns out a significant amount of people have no qualms about queers.
BRING MY GAY WITCH SHOW BACK YOU WRETCHED ANTHROPOMORPHIC SEWAGE RAT!
I WANT NEED MY BEACH EPISODE AND HUNTER GETTING THERAPY!

I'm not going to claim that it's impossible homophobia had anything to do with their decision...but the given reason was that Owl House did not fit Disney's brand of targeting younger children. And to be fair, Owl House does have some relatively mature themes, including an aggressively bigoted antagonist, some confusing time travel stuff, creepy slime monsters, human cloning, and I'm sure I'm forgetting more. And the cancellation was not abrupt as is often the case in these situations; they gave ample forewarning so that the creator could wrap up the biggest story points.

Also, Luz is bi witch, not gay witch.


I enjoyed Andor's first season. Second season is already in production and planned to conclude the series.

Star Wars show without the space wizards. First half is a Heist, second half is a Prison Break. Both arcs are fairly by-the-numbers without any major surprises, but well done otherwise.
My biggest complaint is that the series is intended to show how and why the Rebels were formed; they did a pretty good job on the 'how', but failed on the 'why'. The conditions in which Andor was sent to prison and how he was treated inside are some major black marks against the Empire, but it's all done quietly without them ever showing word spread about what's happening. Other than that, people seem to be upset with the Empire and ready to rebel without any real reason.
Aside from that, the show can be just a bit slow paced at times.

Still, I'll be looking forward to the conclusion next season.
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Post by: Rolan7 on December 05, 2022, 07:16:22 pm
I enthused about the first episode of Inside Job here months ago, and recently I watched more of it!

Episode 6 introduces a James Bond expy, and Episode 7 (007) is all about the main character trying to break up with him.  It's fantastic, and not just because she accidentally goes full Bond Villain hehe.

It really has a lot to say but mainly it's hilarious.  I wonder if Kill James Bond might comment on it in the next Q&A if I ask nicely.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 23, 2022, 01:20:53 pm
Hahah I've finally watched Don't Look Up.

Why don't we get more stuff like this, instead of the other nonsense we get.
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Post by: Starver on December 25, 2022, 03:55:04 pm
Tempted to make a thread of its own, for this, but first just the general thought behind the comment...

Whilst here watching TV in a relative's place (with a bit of a different TV watching policy than my own), I gather that the "knockout craft competition" series is about to get one for snowmen (being created, that is, I think by celeb contestants...).

So, off the top of my head, there's an expanding range of these things: baking, cooking, sewing, pottery, painting, make-up, drag-queening, metal blades*, Lego, snow...

((* - the only one of these not having had a "Great British <Foo>-Off", or other similar substitute name. Though the Lego Masters (UK) only did a couple of seasons, I think, with US and then Aus versions taking over.))


I'm sure there's many more, especially from the profligate and ideas-hungry US networks.

And if someone hasn't actually compiled a list of them all, perhaps I should make a thread for a) Examples, b) Humorous and ridiculous suggestions, c) Those ridiculous suggestions being proven to be actually already having been made.
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Post by: King Zultan on December 26, 2022, 03:02:10 am
I've watched a lot of those weird contest shows, there's a new one about playdough I saw advertised somewhere.
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Post by: Robsoie on December 27, 2022, 12:01:54 pm
Netflix execs :
Ok we got lots of tomatoes sent our way after Witcher season 2 but still we make money so who cares, let's make more by making a new serie "Blood Origins" and add the name Witcher on it for more laugh and giggles.
People threw tomatoes at us because the guys we put in charge of the tv adaptation of the books decided to ignore the books completely.
So this time we'll make the serie taking place 1000 years before the books to avoid that, that's a great idea right ? Nothing can go wrong.

Netflix execs  :  Hold my beer !
- Let's hire again Declan de Barra and Lauren Schmidt Hissrich , 2 of those people that hated the Witcher books obviously so much they decided to make their own terribly bad fan faction on the Witcher show to replace anything the book was building. But as it's 1000 years before the books they can now put any kind of their mediocre fan fiction in the front, there should be no problem.

Declan de Barra and Lauren Schmidt Hissrich : Hold my beer !
- Let's ignore absolutely and completely that in the witcher universe before the Conjunction of the Spheres, the elves had their own culture, their species had different world view, mindset and attitude toward everything, different sensibility, philosophy and etc.. than humans.
Instead in our show 1000 years before the elves are now simply human with pointy ears, they react to things exactly as humans, we'll make absolutely no difference other than ears at all, they behave exactly like low brow versions of humans, think like humans, have human-like culture ! Nothing can go wrong.

Netflix execs : Hold my beer !
Let's hire again the mediocre CGI and SFX people we had before, Witcher CGI and SFX looked like crap in comparison to other heroic fantasy tv shows but that's no problem, we'll do the exact same ! There should be no problem see that cheap flying monster in episode 1 !

de Barra and Schmidt Hissrich : Hold my beer !
the mini series is taking place 1000 years before our other show, let's use the exact same type of costumes so they don't look from 1000 years before ! And let's show how creative we are in our dialogue : "fuck that fucking fuck , i'll fuck up that fucking fuck and fucking fuck out!" ... yeah not even kidding, such fantastic writing with incredibly creative at trying to come with different type of cursing fitting ancient times ...

/facepalm, why did i even watch that first couple of episodes thinking that maybe out of their fan fiction they could do better ...

It's not like it's impossible to make something in a book universe but outside of the book constraint, while making really good CGI and SFX and making your fan fiction story still fit.... just check House of the Dragons, for a fan fiction they did really good (out of the costume that were too GoT-like era).
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Post by: Magmacube_tr on December 28, 2022, 07:11:33 pm
I started watching Transformers: Prime.

Man, Starscream was much gayer than I remembered him to be.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 28, 2022, 08:01:52 pm
Currently watching Alice in Borderland.

Interesting. Also, it does a good job of making things just enough of a twist that I've not actually been able to guess everything yet, though I did know the one Diamonds one* and the 10 of Hearts I was able to get easily enough.

I'm actually digging all these non-English shows.

Spoiler: *True Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: King Zultan on December 29, 2022, 03:21:57 am
I started watching Transformers: Prime.

Man, Starscream was much gayer than I remembered him to be.
From what I hear he gets gayer every new show.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on January 03, 2023, 08:16:31 am
It's a... time-piece, I guess I could improvise a genre, about Italy in the post-WW2 decades, as seen from the perspective of the intellectually gifted girl Elena "Lenu" Greco who grows up in the Neapolitan slums. Topically it's about nationalism (Neapolitan vs (north) Italian) and national identity and national shame, class struggle and class guilt, fascism and socialism and feminism, the nature of the mafia's relationship with the lower class that they prey on, and Lenu's fellow children/youths of the slum, and of course her complicated relationship with her complicated titular friend.

Great production values, great actors, very relatable characters, made by HBO together with an Italian network in the Italian language (or Neapolitan? I wouldn't be able to tell). Based on the trilogy by Helena Ferrante, a supposed autobiographical trilogy written under a pseudonym that's still a secret; allegedly great books in themselves but I have not read them.
I got gifted this book for Christmas. Ere we gooooo
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Post by: Robsoie on January 03, 2023, 09:18:21 am
I started to watch Sweet Tooth and so far i like this a lot, the contrast between the child full of hope regardless of the situation and the darkness of the world really works.

It's also helped by the actors being very good and believable in their roles, despite the crazy settings they're going through.
Hopefully the series lives up to that first few episodes i watched.

Really needed to watch something that good after that utterly idiotic and ridiculous Blood Origins series.

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Post by: Jopax on January 10, 2023, 05:06:00 pm
So let's talk Alice in Borderland, a show that makes you go, holy shit this is way too anime for its own good, and then you learn that it's based on a manga and it all makes sense.

And in classic anime/manga fashion, the premise is interesting, the mystery is hella engaging and some of the games and setpieces are really cool. Unfortunately it's kinda let down by the anime-as-fuck characters which are little more than single-note tropes that spout utter nonsense at times. Now, when you're reading a manga or watching an anime, that sort of stuff kinda gets a pass, you expect archetypes, easily identifiable characters, over the top emotions and reactions because subtlety and body language aren't a thing in those mediums for the most parts (plus, y'know, the target audience is generally the younger folks).

Seeing that shit in a live-action show tho just feels off. Like, uncanny valley levels of off. Like, these are people, they generally act and talk like people would, but then they do or say something that no actual person would, but is something you'd expect from an anime protag spouting about not giving up or friendship or their ideals or what have you and the suspension of disbelief kinda shatters.

But you go trough with it, because like I said before, overall, it's not a bad show, it has more good stuff than bad, and you really wanna find out just what the hell is going on here. But then you get to a particular episode and you just literally ragequit the show halfway trough it because this shit is so fucking dumb.


Now, I haven't read the source material in question so I can't confirm my suspicions, but there's so many scenes that feel like they've been lifted straight from a manga or anime that I can't help but think that this would've been so much better if they didn't blindly stick to the original work and instead tried to adapt it a bit more to the medium.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on January 11, 2023, 04:30:05 pm
So, on recommendation from Red Letter Media, I went and watched the second season of White Lotus (HBO). Turned out to be one of the sharpest shows I've ever seen.
It's sort of framed as a whodunnit in an Italian resort, but it's just the background. The meat is in very incisive probing of human romantic/sexual relations. And the writing here is top-notch.
Its so refreshingly not preachy nor judgemental. Almost feels like a documentary, shot in a jungle, to be narrated by David Attenborough. There's this vaguely unsettling imagery throughout, like a less dark 'The Lighthouse', suggestive of something simmering under the skin of things.
A most excellent mini-series (each season is apparently a self-contained story, and I haven't seen the first). Providing one's more into character drama than high-concept epics.
For something that opens with a discovery of an unspecified number of dead bodies, it ends up surprisingly life-affirming. I give it 10 humanities out of 10 existential dreads.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on January 14, 2023, 04:56:59 pm
I finished watching the third and final season of His Dark Materials(serialization of The Golden Compass).

Many of the big events this season seemed to hinge upon major coincidences and random new rules being shoehorned in just to push the story in a different direction. Still, a grand journey was effectively depicted and I rather enjoyed it.

There are materials in the novels for spin-offs to potentially be made, and the ending credits left the door open for such. I hope to see those one day.


I also recently finished the first season of The Peripheral.

This is the story of a blonde southern gamer-girl whose skills attract the attention of forces-from-beyond, leading her down a rabbit hole that will end up changing her entire world view.
It's pretty well done, with several unexpected twists and big revelations. The season ended at a rather unsatisfying point though, right in the middle of an event arc. I hope that it gets renewed so that I can see more.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on January 14, 2023, 06:44:45 pm
Willow

WTF.  It's like a trainwreck I can't stop watching.

Among the most minor concerns are... what is with the modern emo music playing in a magic fantasy show, complete with lyrics?

About the only good thing about it so far is that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That should be indicative of the overall thing, if that is what constitutes a "good" part.

Story is ridiculous, characters are stereotypes, acting is campy... but it's not fun like the original movie.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on January 14, 2023, 07:05:54 pm
Willow is one of those things that has very-nearly-but-not-half-so-nearly-enough pursuaded me to sign up with the respectively hosting service. Though of course Trailers Lie (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverTrustATrailer), which easily takes sufficient edge off my longing.

(And one of my good friends on a BBS, that I used to basically live on, used the screen name of Madmartigan, so it's a double dose of nostalgia.)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on January 14, 2023, 07:37:11 pm
I only have Disney+ because I get it "free" with my phone service.

Do NOT get it for Willow. You will cry.  It does NOT hit nostalgia at all.  It's like it is written by people trying to elicit nostalgia but have never experienced it themselves.  Basically all the elements of nostalgia are literal clips of the movie.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Great Order on January 16, 2023, 09:26:56 pm
So the first episode of The Last of Us came out on the 15th.

Quite enjoyed it myself. A bit of expansion in some areas and contraction in others, enough changes to keep it fresh but not enough to be unfaithful to the original.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on January 17, 2023, 02:12:59 am
From what I saw of the trailer it appeared to be a retelling of the first game and its DLC, is there more to it than that?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Great Order on January 17, 2023, 06:30:43 pm
Nah, that's what it is. Although we're one episode in so any larger changes aren't gonna be obvious until later if they're there.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on January 18, 2023, 04:31:20 am
Since that's the case I'll already know how it ends but since I enjoyed the game I'll probably watch it at some point.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: nenjin on January 19, 2023, 01:10:28 am
So, on recommendation from Red Letter Media, I went and watched the second season of White Lotus (HBO). Turned out to be one of the sharpest shows I've ever seen.
It's sort of framed as a whodunnit in an Italian resort, but it's just the background. The meat is in very incisive probing of human romantic/sexual relations. And the writing here is top-notch.
Its so refreshingly not preachy nor judgemental. Almost feels like a documentary, shot in a jungle, to be narrated by David Attenborough. There's this vaguely unsettling imagery throughout, like a less dark 'The Lighthouse', suggestive of something simmering under the skin of things.
A most excellent mini-series (each season is apparently a self-contained story, and I haven't seen the first). Providing one's more into character drama than high-concept epics.
For something that opens with a discovery of an unspecified number of dead bodies, it ends up surprisingly life-affirming. I give it 10 humanities out of 10 existential dreads.

I saw it on HBO over various work trips and assumed it was some sort of Bravo-style drama about rich people being bad and decadent and yadda yadda.

Then I saw the RLM review. I don't really think I'll watch it but I guess I'm glad to know it was more than surface level smut. Although I understand that S2 is generally better than S1.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Vector on January 20, 2023, 11:25:10 pm
1984, Jeremy Brett's portrayal of Sherlock Holmes ;_;
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on January 21, 2023, 12:25:59 am
Iconic.

But, while it's not TV, the Clive Merrison and Michael Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(1989_radio_series)) compilation of every singles Holmes story (and the Clive Merrison/Andrew Sachs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Further_Adventures_of_Sherlock_Holmes) "original sequels") is probably worth listening to, if you can.  The same not-Sherlock/not-Elementary/uncontemporised[1] properly era-tied setting, and of course the Pictures Are Better On Radio... ;)

And, as general canon-spinoff, I think the Lestrade/everybody-but-Holmes series The Rivals (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03brxht)[2] might interest you (a mixed bag, by dint of the "guest Investigator Of The Week" format, if nothing else, but if you like the setting and want variety, it's worth the odd half hour at a time, I think. (Currently onpy available to listen, if at all, is the series they changed the voice-actor, for availability rrasons. Tim Piggot-Smith isn't bad, but I think James Fleet did it well enough for me.)


All this just being for media variety, perhaps. Perhaps not strictly on-topic. ;)


[1] Indeed, also not futurised (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_in_the_22nd_Century)!!!

[2] Giving you the direct BBC link there, whether or not it's useful, because aside from the much earlier TV series (that I have never seen, so have no reason to recommend) and a mention under Lestrade's own wikipage "radiography", I could not find any particularly useful encyclopedic link to give.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Great Order on January 30, 2023, 07:24:54 am
Latest episode of TLOU was fantastic. Quite self-contained in all as well.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Not afraid to say I welled up a bit towards the end of it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: delphonso on February 01, 2023, 09:07:34 am
I'm gonna dig into Rings of Power in solidarity to another nerd.

My wife is watching the Three Body Problem (currently coming out daily in China, I have to assume subtitles are available and that you can watch it...ahem..."completely legally" somewhere). From what I've watched over her shoulder and the discussions we've had, it's real accurate to the book, which is good.

I'm not a fan of where the series goes, but the first book is undeniably a solid work of science fiction. If you can get your greasy mitts on either the book or this series, go for it. (Wenjie's actress's performance is genuinely perfect.)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on February 04, 2023, 08:45:39 pm
Just finished The OA.

Enjoyable show but:

My brain hurts.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Frumple on February 04, 2023, 08:58:23 pm
I can't decide how I'm supposed to feel about a series called Oa written by someone named Batman not having anything to do with the green lanterns. It feels like it should be some kind of copyright violation or... something.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on February 05, 2023, 01:58:38 pm
Hah yeah I noticed that in the credits too.

Mostly I'm just like... there are so many dangling plot threads! Apparently yet another victim of Netflix not finishing a series because of metrics or something stupid.

Just finish at least one of these series/stories, dammit!  (Although, of course, when a show is discontinued before it (potentially) goes bad, it will always live in folks' memories as "what could have been!")
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 05, 2023, 02:07:05 pm
Arguably, Lost would have been the best series ever created, had it been cancelled after the first season.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on February 05, 2023, 06:37:11 pm
Are there any publicly available outtakes for Cunk On Earth?

I want to know how many takes it took to make each 30-minute episode. I don't know how anyone involved was able to keep a straight face long enough to get even one scene made, all done with complete documentary deadpan.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 05, 2023, 06:41:03 pm
What is this whole Cunk thing? I keep seeing clips recommended by the 'tube, that I've been steadfastly ignoring. Is this some Mitchell & Webb-style comedy show?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Frumple on February 05, 2023, 07:00:38 pm
Google said it was some kind of mockumentary when I looked it up. I... don't remember what mitchell & webb was like, but comedy show of some sort, yeah.
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Post by: Ziusudra on February 05, 2023, 07:18:48 pm
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Morgan#Philomena_Cunk
Morgan is perhaps best known for her portrayal of Philomena Cunk, an extremely dim-witted and ill-informed interviewer and commentator on current affairs. The character first appeared in a regular segment on Charlie Brooker's Weekly Wipe (2013–2015). Cunk has since appeared in other mockumentary contexts.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on February 05, 2023, 07:27:58 pm
Philomena Cunk (aka Diane Morgan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Morgan)) is a deadpan 'reporter' character that I think (probably says in that link, I really should check it!) was made popular in a Charlie Brooker comedy/satire show for the BBC(or was it The Mash Report? ... no, I think that's Rachel Parris), and I've seen that "Cunk on ..." things have been around, created as stand-alones, since then, but I've not seen them myself.
...and Ninjaed.

Its the kind of humour I like (well, one of the kinds), so I really must have a look for them.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on February 08, 2023, 09:37:36 am
Talking of humour that I like... I've just seen news of a planned return of Fawlty Towers (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64563839). Fills me with trepidation/interest in equal measure (and probably unlikely to appear on a broadcast/streaming platform I'll see, anyway, like Spitting Image) because they could do justice to the original two short series (US: seasons), but in trying to be contemporary and possibly even trying to say something it could be car-crash rather than a car-thrash (with a sapling!)...

They (not the same 'they', of course) have indeed done it well with the Open All Hours revival into Still Open All Hours, but I don't think Ronnie Barker, were he still around, would have wanted to do it. They were lucky enough to have David Jason (and a number of the other original cast) being able to create the core skeleton of continuity, having had a significantly gravitas-building career path between.

Compare that to riding upon Cleese's character alone, as the only obvious linking element. It currently seems it won't even be the same establishment being run. So it'll be much more a spin-off than a faithful continuity[1], and the choices made to 'update' it could kill it or chill it so very easily.



...and also confirmation in that news article that Spinal Tap is looking to pop up again as 'a thing'. I think I am happier with that. Though it would be nice to get something more in the lines of The Ruttles.

(Next up "The Old Ones"? A rather troubled remake of "The Young Ones" that essentially transplants what characters they still can over into a University Of The Third Age (http://https:www.u3a.org.uk)-type setting with more than a few elements of One Foot In The Grave, Waiting For God and Last Of The Summer Wine?  :P )


[1] Ok, it worked with Frasier from Cheers, and possibly also Mork And Mindy from Happy Days, I think it could be argued... Can't bring to mind anything British that did it as well. I enjoyed First Of The Summer Wine, but that was during the tenure of "Last...", a prequel and didn't last so long compared to its ultra-long-running parent series. While the "<something> and Chips", I think, that did the same for Only Fools And Horses (and featured one notably 'original' cast-member in a non-nod-wink-wink ancestral cameo) didn't do so well.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on February 08, 2023, 12:37:23 pm
It’s a little surprising given Cleese’ distaste at certain episodes and characters not being regarded as having aged well (“don’t mention the war!”) but I did enjoy some of it, despite it being cringe comedy to some extent.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on February 08, 2023, 02:28:16 pm
Cleese was upset that The Germans was removed from listings/censored because of some of the dialogue[1]. He wasn't distasteful of the his old programme (as in "I wouldn't have written it that way today"[2]), but of the way it caused the blocking of the programme without considering the context[3] and how it contextualised it as 'abnormal'.

Compare with Little Britain with its shock-comedy. The WI lady who projectile vomits (to ridiculous extents) on encountering any sight or sound of 'diversity' that threatens her world-view might be considered a "laugh at the prejudice, not at that prejudiced against", and The 'Only' Gay In The Village who seems to be as prejudiced and willingly blind to the truly enlightened nature of his home town as any homophobe in denial would be. 'Emily' ("I'm A Lady"), and occasionally a disciple to the cause (with the gruff "...a'right!"), is a difficult one. Making fun of Trans, or just making fun of some people's reductionist ideas of transvestitism?

But then there's the fatsuit (and, if it even needs to be mentioned, the blackface fatsuit) for the rather 'out there' fading-but-overly-effusive female once-glamorous but now just cringeworthy characters who had plenty of vanity but no inhibitions. Perhaps they (at the time) tried to balance that with the steroided-up musclemen ("musclesuits", with micropenises that also were a regular reveal), but it was probably at the 'wrong end' of a largely two-handed multicharacter act (both men, with or without their own alternate sexualities and natural body-shapes) who weren't averse to portraying a wide range of subjects in their work... Undoubtedly very good at varying their output across a wide range (Lou and Andy, with their own problematic issues[4], were both far more toned-down 'impressions'), but just because you can create a certain character doesn't always mean you should.

I think Lucas and Walliams have said that they wouldn't do some of that these days (though Walliams has had more recent trouble, in Britain's Got Talent I think it was), and even if I probably wasn't critical at the time (beyond it being a set of rapid firing cringe-sketches, off a little beyond my comfort zone if I wasn't intrigued enough to be sat watching the not-so-cringy moments of possible brilliance, or at least imagination) then I'm probably unlikely to seek out a streaming service holding their shows for a spot of nostalgia.

But nothing like that reticance with Fawlty Towers. A dozen(?) episodes in total, dealing with a variety of 'comedies of error' situations, and I don't think I'd say even The Germans is in bad taste. Even/especially in hindsight. You're not going to get much inadvertant audience 'sympathy' with the less nice viewpoints portrayed (a problem that Till Death Do Us Part had, Alf Garnett intended as a parody and figure of derision but attractedva "Yeah, I think that too" following by those who just didn't get the right joke), and the ridicule lands firmly and fairly upon those who perpetually rudiculous.

(That being Cleese's point, I believe, and I would clearly agree.)


But I'm worried that now!Cleese could be different and no longer aligned to what now!me thinks could and should be done. Apparently he has some stint on GB News. Which is a warning flag in my mind, given what I think about other guest stinters and full-blown presenters on GB News are like in political/political commentary circles. A British clone of Fox ('News'), it seems. I don't think they've sought for a wide range of possible iconoclasts to allow a wide and nicely representative spread of iconoclasms. So it makes me wary, even though I think Cleese fronted LibDem (or was it even pre-LibDem, the original Liberals?) Party Election Broadcasts, three or four decades ago.


[1] It featured an 'of his time' (i.e. purposely old fashioned even at that time) character using language increasingly deemed 'no longer appropriate'.

[2] Maybe he actually wouldn't, but I don't think he would shy away from a more contemporary 'edgy' character saying something else that is currently 'allowed' but controversial/thought-provoking as a character-establishing moment.

[3] The characters saying things that shouldn't be said were saying them because they had no inhibitions. Either an old person who had clearly never learnt to have them, or a concussioned one not being able to properly reason (even to his usual low level of self-control).

[4] Andy is faking disability, when it suits him. And Lou certainly ends up helping him, and empowering him to do so, however oblivious it seems he must be to the well-timed trickery.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on February 09, 2023, 04:24:20 am
I'm gonna withhold my judgment of the reboot of Fawlty Towers until I get to watch it, part of me is afraid that it isn't gonna be as good as the original, but the rest of me is hoping for good things even if most of the OG cast is gone, hopefully Cleese can pull it off.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: lemon10 on February 11, 2023, 07:44:19 pm
Slowly watching my way through taskmaster (season 9 now), and I have to say Rhod back on season 7 really bugged me.

Like he just starts annoying, but pretty soon he goes into creepy then really creepy. And he just stole the entire dynamic of the show and would never stop being obnoxious. And he just kept going.

When James got angry at him and said the scoring of an episode was unfair because Rhod was the taskmaster's personal friend he was wrong. But he was right in that it felt like the only reason he was still on the show and wasn't kicked off was because he *was* his friend.

(And it does seem like James getting pissed off about scoring had an impact. In season 8 they were noticeably more generous with scoring (eg. 3 fives instead of a 5,4,3).
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After doing a bit of research (interview (https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/taskmaster/interviews/rhod_gilbert_series_7/)) about it after the season it turns out that due to how its filmed they do all the tasks before any of the theater stuff. So going into it he didn't know how the show worked or that Greg was the one doing all the scoring so he just insulted him the entire time in the tasks so he had to keep it up for the whole season.
Which fine, makes it a little less obnoxious in one way.
But it also means that he was too lazy to even watch a single part of a single episode. If he had spent five minutes doing that before working on the show for like 6 months then he wouldn't have spent all that time just to lose when probably would have won otherwise.
But it probably isn't him being lazy, its worse, its him being unprofessional.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on February 11, 2023, 09:11:15 pm
He’s a comedian and it’s a comedy show :p James getting annoyed with Rhod is funny, as well as wholly justified, and quite frankly Rhod has some flashes of brilliance in it too, so there was no reason to kick him off.

I mean, they win a gold plated head of Greg Davies (I think it looks more like Rich Hall, personally) which isn’t particularly prestigious. Rhod failing made it entertaining, and Rhod spending 10 minutes with his head in his hands before coming up with something brilliant was also entertaining.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: lemon10 on February 11, 2023, 09:54:36 pm
He’s a comedian and it’s a comedy show :p James getting annoyed with Rhod is funny, as well as wholly justified, and quite frankly Rhod has some flashes of brilliance in it too, so there was no reason to kick him off.

I mean, they win a gold plated head of Greg Davies (I think it looks more like Rich Hall, personally) which isn’t particularly prestigious. Rhod failing made it entertaining, and Rhod spending 10 minutes with his head in his hands before coming up with something brilliant was also entertaining.
Well, not kick him off, but at least telling him to knock it off.
Or for him to realize once they started the theater bits to change what items he sent in.
...
Yes yes, he thought it was funny, but he really didn't need to commit to it this hard when he had no clue what was going on.
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And people do care about winning. They spend a lot of time doing some of the longer events spread out over six months of time. They get competitive so they can say they won. I know if I got on I would be totally 100% into winning.
Rhod even cared about winning once he got to a task,
Rhod spending 10 minutes with his head in his hands before coming up with something brilliant was also entertaining.
Rhod was brilliant. If he hadn't known the taskmaster and went into it like a normal gameshow he would have 100% won.
He did seem to have some anger issues though due to what he did to alex. Still, even with that he could have won.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on February 11, 2023, 11:04:38 pm
From my experience of Rhod Gilbert, angry Welshman is his “character”.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on February 17, 2023, 08:52:23 pm
Picard and Carnival Row each just started new seasons! Yay!


I've just finished the first season of That 90's Show. It's alright.

They've done a great job of re-capturing the general mood of the predecessor, That 70's Show. Returning to the same set with most of the old cast, along with a new generation who directly mirror the roles of the old generation, it's like they pick up right where they left off without missing a beat.

My main complaint is that the show is not particularly engaging. This pacing worked well for That 70's Show, whose weekly installments could be easily digested as a casual look at the lives of teens in a past generation. But That 90's Show dropped on a streaming service where episodes could be binged back to back, and there's just not enough excitement or intrigue to keep the show interesting while taking more than one installment at a time.
Also Ozzie, the spiritual successor to Fez, is just super annoying and I hate him.

Second season is already on the way. When it comes, I'll probably try to take it more slowly.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on February 27, 2023, 01:32:37 pm
I watched the animated series of The Clone Wars recently, and it was pretty good after the first couple of season. Starts of real slow, but it gets good eventually, particularly into season 4 onward.

I also watched the Tales of the Jedi which outlines Count Dooku’s fall of the dark side (and had Ian McDiarmid reprise his role as Palpatine!) as well as Ahsoka Tano (one of the character’s introduced in the Clone Wars) being born and her people learning she’s force sensitive, as well as one bit of training that has significant relevance to a story arc in the Clone Wars, as well as what happens to her after the series finished.

All in all, it was quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: brewer bob on March 07, 2023, 12:28:04 am
I've finally gathered the courage to try and watch the Rings of Power, and my god, this is absolutely the worst fantasy I've ever seen -- it's plain torture to get through each episode. And this is saying quite a lot since I love to watch shitty fantasy and chuckle to it. But this, this is just unbearable.

And it's not that they completely f* up Tolkien. It's just bad, bad, BAD in every sense possible.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on March 07, 2023, 09:09:09 am
Black Sails

If you remove the absurd amount of gratuitous and useless sex scenes (typical Startz production) it's a frankly really good pirate themed series.

 
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on March 07, 2023, 09:18:57 am
I've finally gathered the courage to try and watch the Rings of Power, and my god, this is absolutely the worst fantasy I've ever seen -- it's plain torture to get through each episode. And this is saying quite a lot since I love to watch shitty fantasy and chuckle to it. But this, this is just unbearable.

And it's not that they completely f* up Tolkien. It's just bad, bad, BAD in every sense possible.

I didn't think it was that bad.  I thought it tolerable, with decent production quality.  I enjoyed the score, the scenery, most of the casting seemed ok - except for perhaps Isildur, that kid was kind of meh.

As for the story - well if you don't want a modification of the original content, read the books? I know that may sound condescending, but you have to accept that every adaptation is going to change something.

I wonder if this is a generational thing?  Also note that Tolkien has some interesting concepts in his works, but the writing itself really didn't strike me as all that great - easy to read, but not any kind of knock-your-socks-off stuff.  My take is that Tolkien was pop-culture of its day.

My final take: they didn't make as many egregious modifications as they did to Wheel of Time.  ;D
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on March 07, 2023, 11:05:59 am
Changes are often unavoidable in adaptations yes, but changes should still respect the source material.
Jackson on his 2 trilogies made changes here and there but overall the characters were still relatively faithfull to the originals.

While in Rings of Power (if you liked the source material of course as if you don't it's obvious it will not bother you)  it's hard to not be infuriated at how they wrote Galadriel.
In the source material, -at that time of the story- she's thousand year old, married to Celeborn and mother to a child (that will become Elrond's wife) and is the mightiest (even before the ring) and most exceptional of the elves, wisdom and power made into an elf.
On an interesting note she's so wise that she was also the only one that distrust completely "that guy" and the only one that does not get fooled by his lies, at all.

While in the tv series she's acting like a 20 years old that is struggling with her emotions, at least they kept her as a strong sword fighter, but the semi-romance with "that guy" that manipulate her so easily was really ridiculous.

That said the series had all the ingredients to be really great, the high budget is felt in the sceneries, backgrounds and effects that are often amazing and awe inspiring, the actors mostly play their scripts well and often look the part (i was worried on the elves after seeing the absolute shit that was Witcher Blood Origins, but fortunately they all look like those stern-looking elves as they should be).

But damn those characterisations changes ...
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on March 07, 2023, 06:34:21 pm
My biggest issue with Rings of Power, like Lord of the Rings before it, is the title. I go into these stories expecting magic rings that have ridiculous powers, and heroic figures abusing those powers to turn the tides of wars and influence nations. What I get instead is a story about a lame cursed ring of invisibility that barely even gets used, and then a prequel with a whole season that only barely mentions rings in the last 10 seconds of the final episode.

Aside from that, the palpable melodrama in RoP was taxing at times, but not as bad as LotR. I consider it a small step in the right direction.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: brewer bob on March 07, 2023, 08:35:22 pm
As for the story - well if you don't want a modification of the original content, read the books? I know that may sound condescending, but you have to accept that every adaptation is going to change something.

I was expecting it not to follow the original content, so that's not at all the issue here. From the start I tried to get into a mindset that this is its own fantasy world and so on.

A tv series/movie is a very much different media than a book, so of course it has to be adapted. I'm happy if it doesn't follow the original story, but if it does not convey the mood or spirit of the source material at all, then that's a completely different thing. And this one fails in it even worse than the Jackson Hobbit trilogy.

Even if you think of the Rings of Power not happening at all in Middle-Earth (which is how I approached it -- or tried, at least), it's still just really awkward and embarrassing to look at.

This review sums pretty much what I thought about the series (contains spoilers):
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2022/10/18/the-rings-of-power-season-1-review-amazons-arrogant-betrayal-of-the-lord-of-the-rings/?sh=70113a281839

And a quote from it:

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Amazon’s “adaptation” is badly made TV with a nonsensical story built on wild coincidences, contrived plotlines and a blatant disregard for the various building blocks that make any story complete: Logical character choices, a sense of time and place, and narrative tension—not to mention an overly large cast of mostly forgettable and uncharismatic characters, some wholly made up for the show and others changed entirely as to be almost unrecognizable.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on March 07, 2023, 10:44:23 pm
Have the writers of that review watched any TV in the past, oh, decade? It’s all contrived coincidences and bizarre character choices, relying on big-budget effects instead of anything else?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 08, 2023, 12:19:21 am
Even if that were true, it wouldn't make bad shows good.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on March 08, 2023, 02:59:04 am
I didnt find it that bad. It was entertaining at least. The bait and switcheroo is probably my biggest complaint
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: brewer bob on March 08, 2023, 05:26:26 am
Have the writers of that review watched any TV in the past, oh, decade? It’s all contrived coincidences and bizarre character choices, relying on big-budget effects instead of anything else?

Can't say about the writer of the review, but yeah, pretty much the reason I've been avoiding watching any new TV shows. I just can't stand CGI (okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit -- sometimes it's good, though rarely).

(Possibly I'm just turning into a middle-aged grumpy person who can't do anything else but complain how things suck these days... The very person I swore never to become. So, please ignore me whining and yelling at clouds. :P)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on March 08, 2023, 05:38:38 am
I've noticed that a lot of the CGI they use for TV shows is pretty crap, but the CGI in movies isn't much better.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on March 08, 2023, 06:36:29 am
My biggest issue with Rings of Power, like Lord of the Rings before it, is the title. I go into these stories expecting magic rings that have ridiculous powers, and heroic figures abusing those powers to turn the tides of wars and influence nations. What I get instead is a story about a lame cursed ring of invisibility that barely even gets used, and then a prequel with a whole season that only barely mentions rings in the last 10 seconds of the final episode.

Aside from that, the palpable melodrama in RoP was taxing at times, but not as bad as LotR. I consider it a small step in the right direction.

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Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on March 08, 2023, 07:09:26 am
I've noticed that a lot of the CGI they use for TV shows is pretty crap, but the CGI in movies isn't much better.
The CGI of the '80s (ok, so much of it was essentially Computer-Aided Rotoscoping) set my bar, making even that of the '90s a great improvement.

The spiritual grandpappy of most CGI films, Tron, did do well with the frankly basic computers (by today's standards, naturally) and a whole lotta manual effort in the multilayering of artistic rotoscoping and back-lighting with mattes. The likes of Automan (made a point of its computerishness, perhaps ahead of anything else similar for TV) actually used surprising amounts of physical effects to make it look real (the 'CG suit', etc).

Looking at something like Earth: Final Conflict, the gratuitously tweaked footage was very obvious, even there at the very end of the '90s. Doesn't help that it tries to do the "organic alien tech" of the visitors (and their rivals) when computers weren't yet so good at that, while Babylon 5 at least went with (mostly) hard metal space hardware in its non-physical scenes (which certainly also helped in the next legacy-Roddenbury series, Andromeda).

All of these both more and less convincing than the various visual effects used in The Adventure Game (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_Game)... ;)


I think, actually, the threshold of CGI being good enough for purpose (as more than CG-animation as its whole concept) was when it started to have the basic means to do hair/fur/etc well. Any further dissatisfaction would then be more down to the wage-bill and pool of talent available to pull around the mice and tap on the keyboards. Or at least everyone stopped bothering to shoehorn less convincing attempts in there just to be cutting-edge.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: brewer bob on March 08, 2023, 08:55:27 am
The CGI of the '80s (ok, so much of it was essentially Computer-Aided Rotoscoping) set my bar

If CGI is used to aid in rotoscoping, stop motion, matte paintings and/or models, what-ever-etc., that's something I think works pretty well. It's when it's just plain CGI (as in 3d models) then no matter what, it still looks clunky and "plastic" to me (e.g., the original unaltered Star Wars: A New Hope with its models and such still beats the best of modern CGI, imo).

...Probably a reason why I can't stand modern video games either with all their "fancy" 3D graphics and such, but maybe I'll just stop complaining for now.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on March 08, 2023, 12:57:11 pm
Babylon 5 cheap CGI worked really nicely and were very good in term of cost-effective.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on March 08, 2023, 01:04:37 pm
I dunno - I liked B5, but I always cringed at its CGI.  I thought it was awful, especially compared to TNG which started a full 5 years before B5, and the ship effects of TNG were no question better.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: brewer bob on March 08, 2023, 01:40:08 pm
There's a certain trashy/campy charm to (old) cheap CGI, which fit B5 quite well. Another favorite of mine is the crappy CGI from SG-1 (note to self: should re-watch this again).
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on March 08, 2023, 03:56:38 pm
I think TNG did its equivalent effects (the various ships) far more as practical sculptured models, run through multiple passes of Motion Control (camera and/or model(s)) to extract the matte mask, the plain illuminated model, the various glow effects (in-camera?), etc. Which they mixed and put over the starfield artwork (basic CG, mostly flat with minimal animation, perhaps a slowly rotating view of a planet; or "screensaver"-like for warp backgrounds) and have the likes of the firing torpedos/phaser-arrays and various other nebulous[1] foregrounds added on top.

The transition for Trek into purer CGI came with the later ST series (and later seasons of TNG), I would say. And I know they had a physical DS9 at least at the start of that run.


Certainly by today's eyes, B5 renders are less than perfect. Also probably visibly not as full-HD as you'd expect (so may unfairly suffer from upscaling onto any fairly modern TV or not-as-modern (https://xkcd.com/732/) computer display) and even the live action has a peculiarity of the film stock/broadcast framerate/etc that a proper connoisseur of the small screen could identify (also something to do with natively being NTSC rather than PAL..?).

Of the age, though, it allowed all kinds of dynamism and depth of scene that was very hard to integrate into physical models. (Compare drop-launching a squadron of starfuries with the best they could do with shuttlecraft leaving the Enterprise's shuttlebay.) And I remain much in awe of the 'realistic' flight models in B5, vs Trek/Wars/Galactica/etc. Well, with Earth vessels, certainly. They did all the "space-swooping" thing with such as the whitestars, but that's in line with the in-universe 'fact' of Minbari having a system of propulsion more exotic than reaction drivers and thrusters. ;)


I'm trying to think what kind of equivalent programmes I've seen recently to compare against old stuff. Rebooted Galactica is the first that comes to mind. And right now the last, as the Star Wars serieses and other obvious things I really ought to have seen have been sequestered away on channels/streamers that I haven't subscribed to (or equivalent). But BG certainly is (graphically) at the mature end of full-package CG, when it comes to TV productions.

Films are another thing. But given the visual nature of the likes of Iron Sky, seems to not be much of a hurdle to accomplish with enough commitment to anything up to two-ish hours of variously augmented footage. However hard it would be to commit to a significant multiple of that across a whole TV season.

[1] Possibly literally. ;)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on March 09, 2023, 04:09:15 am
I still prefer practical affects, they look so much nicer compared to CG equivalents, especially in horror movies since CG blood looks so shit.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on March 09, 2023, 10:30:24 am
It's important to judge those effects for their time.
As it's been mentionned B5 effects were very cheap but they nicely integrated with the series decorum and the actor makeup, that were also not big budget either.
I still remember how awesome it was when the first Shadow bio ship appeared , ominous moment full of overwhelming threat .
Yeah now it sure looks much less awesome, but in its time it was.

Even in its time this wasn't that bad :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SK0cUNMnMM
But now sure it's a good laughing time, kudos for the actor to have managed to keep a straight face :D
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on April 20, 2023, 09:39:48 pm
Star Trek: Picard's third season has concluded. This is reportedly the final season, though the final minutes did leave the door wide open for a continuation or spinoff.

This season started off very strong. There were beloved characters reunited, intriguing mysteries and exciting action sequences. Honestly, the first arc with the Changelings was pretty amazing, and felt like TNG at it's peak.
But then the season kept going, with some Borg stuff that felt a bit confusing and entirely out of character for them. And finally it all wrapped up with the dreaded 'Our raw unearned emotions can simply overwhelm all of the insurmountable challenges arrayed against us!'. Blech.

Beyond all that, this season completely reversed almost all of the major plot points from the previous seasons. Major characters died? Nope, bring them all back. Villains went through a redemption arc? Nope, now they're villains again, with zero explanation. It honestly felt like each season had different writers and they did not collaborate at all as they were making this series.

Still, it could have been far worse. Overall I am happy that I got to see the classic TNG characters go on one last adventure.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Caz on April 21, 2023, 08:04:29 am
Star Trek: Picard's third season has concluded. This is reportedly the final season, though the final minutes did leave the door wide open for a continuation or spinoff.

TIL this exists. Picard and Seven of Nine show, ah it's childhood all over again.

Most shows are just nostalgia bait these days I guess.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on April 21, 2023, 08:38:20 am
Shouldn't it be called Eight of Nine?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Caz on April 21, 2023, 11:06:54 am
Shouldn't it be called Eight of Nine?

I'm gonna regret asking this, but why?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on April 21, 2023, 12:58:07 pm
It’s a sequel.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on April 22, 2023, 05:16:16 am
It’s a sequel.

:D
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on May 27, 2023, 09:53:33 pm
Just finished Star Wars Rebels.

Didn’t think I’d particularly enjoy it, but the characters do really grow on you, particularly later on. They bring back a handful of other characters from Clone Wars also, which I appreciated. Also the whole Thrawn deal was something I liked, and he does appear to be… the word escapes me, something like honest or loyal to the character from the book, even if the book is not canon anymore.

It does have a bit of a loose end, but I imagine that was to possibly get more content out of it, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

I’d recommend.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on June 11, 2023, 02:56:14 pm
I finished the second and final season of Carnival Row.

The final episode felt rushed, of course, with all of the outstanding drama being hastily resolved, completely skipping all the details. Still, that's better than leaving things unresolved after the show's cancelation.
The rest of the season managed to introduce new lands and factions, expand upon the backstories of existing characters, and wrapped up unresolved plot points from the first season. Overall Carnival Row made quite the enjoyable little adventure.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Ulfarr on September 02, 2023, 09:34:49 am
I've binged the first season of the One Piece Live action, it's... I want to say "good" for a manga/anime adaptation but I think I'll settle on "decent at best" as a show overall. I mean, it's clear that they put a LOT of effort and care in its making but it also has some serious flaws.

The good:
 - The story is mostly intact. Understandably there's been some changes (some characters were cut, some were introduced earlier, a few new plot points were added) but they mostly serve to condense the story, not change it.
 - Like the story, the characters are mostly true to their manga/anime counterparts, there are few visual alterations (Luffy doesn't wear chanclas, Ussop doesn't have such a long nose etc) but the mannerisms, motivations, goals, attitudes are there.
 - Details! LOTS of details! From the characters in the background to the main characters' outfits (they change clothes every few episodes but they still use the outfits they would wear in later arcs). Even the figurehead of the Going Merry, they could have make it look like the original but instead they changed it to a far more expressive one that looks like it was hand carved by some really skilled craftsman.

The bad:
 - There is some tonal shift between episodes, like they haven't made up their minds how they want to portray the world. Zoro is introduced cutting a person in half which isn't really in the style of the source material or the following episodes either. Similarly Buggy (a clown themed pirate) at first feels more like the Joker (from Batman) but later settles to his true, goofy persona.
 - The world feels a lot more grounded to reality than in the manga/anime. By itself that's not a problem but, to me, it makes the more fantastical elements feel jarring when they come in screen.
 - Most of the special effects are good but the fishmen look BAD, like something out of Hercules/Xena or even the Power Rangers.
 - The biggest problem in my opinion, is that they seem to have some screenwriting or, i should say, pacing issues. While watching I felt that a lot of the emotional beats fell flat, like there wasn't enough build up, to justify and make them feel earned.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on September 07, 2023, 12:55:51 pm
Just completed the 3rd season of Ragnarok and ... that ending episode ...

It makes sense in some way sure, but it really disapointed me so much as it truly felt like a complete cop out, as if they're telling the spectator that everything he watched in those 3 seasons never happened, at some point of the end sequence i was wondering they're pulling a Dallas again ?
Would have prefered they stopped at the episode before the finale then, as it would still be an ending with some satisfaction.

I wonder if Ragnarok was just going to be axed so they decided to do that in the finale to "wash the board".
Oh well, at least up to the finale it was an interesting take on the germanic/norse mythos and all the actors that i never saw before that series were very good in their roles.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Strongpoint on September 07, 2023, 01:06:10 pm
Just finished Star Wars Rebels.

Didn’t think I’d particularly enjoy it, but the characters do really grow on you, particularly later on. They bring back a handful of other characters from Clone Wars also, which I appreciated. Also the whole Thrawn deal was something I liked, and he does appear to be… the word escapes me, something like honest or loyal to the character from the book, even if the book is not canon anymore.

It does have a bit of a loose end, but I imagine that was to possibly get more content out of it, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

I’d recommend.

If you haven't read it already, I strongly recommend a new canon Thrawn comics series from 2018
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on September 09, 2023, 02:56:37 pm
I have zero history with One Piece but wanted to try it out, since it looked like a light diversion.

So far it's... interesting.  It is a really odd mix of reality and fantasy...but I like that it doesn't take itself seriously.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on September 09, 2023, 03:44:35 pm
Just completed the 3rd season of Ragnarok and ... that ending episode ...

It makes sense in some way sure, but it really disapointed me so much as it truly felt like a complete cop out, as if they're telling the spectator that everything he watched in those 3 seasons never happened, at some point of the end sequence i was wondering they're pulling a Dallas again ?
Would have prefered they stopped at the episode before the finale then, as it would still be an ending with some satisfaction.

I wonder if Ragnarok was just going to be axed so they decided to do that in the finale to "wash the board".
Oh well, at least up to the finale it was an interesting take on the germanic/norse mythos and all the actors that i never saw before that series were very good in their roles.
I wasnt liking this season very much and was hoping for a payoff by the end. I think you saved me time and disappointment.

I kind of liked the series beforehand so a bit disappointed. Also the actress playing the principal... rawr.

Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Magmacube_tr on September 09, 2023, 04:39:20 pm
I've watched the first season of Heartstopper on Netflix. It is adapted from the comics of the same name, and it is still behind it in terms of progression.

It is +18 here in Turkey (because of course it is), but since I am almost 20 now, I have access to it. Suck it, RTÜK!

It pretty good by far and the pacing is as slow as it can be under the platforms and genres content standards. It did made me realised that shows of its kind are not really my thing though. I prefer the slowness of text and comics, and being able to fill gaps between the letters and simple, gray images with my imagination. That should be pretty obvious to everyone from the fact that I use this forum. I don't like these newfangled stuff. Back in my day-

Alice had to exclude almost all of casual swearing and making out scenes from the comics to keep it as PG as possible, so the show could achieve maximum exposure. It makes the narrative a bit more plastic, but no big loss. She did keep Harry saying the f-slur, though. Which is pretty good in my opinion as him saying that is a plot drive. She also excluded alot of other stuff from the comics, and added characters and events that weren't in the comic. Which is kinda weird, but I guess a show needs drama to get going.

8/10. Good shit.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on September 11, 2023, 08:35:00 pm
So I quite enjoyed the live-action One Piece.  Enough that I'm now watching the animated version.

Pretty... well it definitely is something.  Surrealism? I don't even know what to call it.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 11, 2023, 09:10:17 pm
I've seen a bit of one episode. Was kinda surprised by how not shit it was. Still an anime adaptation, so nothing high-brow. But all the actors seemed intent on making it work in spite of all its silly trappings (props to the admiral guy or whomever - I don't know the source material - for managing to act serious while wearing a teddy bear hat).
Now that I think about it, the CGI and the fantasy make-up were better than what poor Geralt had to contend with.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 26, 2023, 10:39:48 pm
Foundation recently wrapped up it's second season.

This season saw the math-genius girl from the first season turn out to be some sort of psychic, and just one among many with varied powers. The arc surrounding her this season was full of deus ex machina events where every shocking downfall would simply be revealed as an illusion, or something that could be conveniently reversed by one of the powered people. Pretty unsatisfying.

The other major arc surrounded Empire, the mysteries surrounding their past, and their ongoing feud with the Foundation. This story was much more enjoyable, and led up to a fantastic climax at the end of the season.

Season 3 not yet announced, but the creators have already revealed some of their plans and I very much hope that they see fruition.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on September 27, 2023, 12:36:23 am
I'm currently re-reading (spliced with re-listening) the actual original Empire and Foundation books. I'm so out of what various broadcasters/streamcasters are doing that I only learnt that Foundation was a thing from the announcement of its much anticipated second series...

It all sounds like it's a "based upon", departing quite a bit from the base material. Not just prequelling/postquelling/infilling established canon. But, if you forget that, would you say it has a stand-alone promise?

(e.g. I had a soft spot for The Watch, despite it not being the CSI Ankh-Morpork that was promised, and has been effectively disowned by Pratchett's own daughter. Though depicting within it that there is a multiverse of existences, it's definitely a "multiverse next-door" in an even more meta-way. But I actually thought it looked interesting. Except for the dwarven racelift, which I'm sure they could have done better. Actually given short-stature actors a decent opportunity, with dignity and scope for making the 'omnigendered' bits work without the beard-thing.)

Not that I'm probably going to sign up to Apple/Amazon/Paramount/whoever-it-is to watch it, but eventually it'll perhaps arrive somewhere I'll see it (ironically, more likely if it becomes obviously less good and less useful to keep exclusive). By then, of course, I'll be overwhelmed with even more 'must (eventually) watch' items on my mental wishlist.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on September 29, 2023, 03:54:22 pm
Not a TV show exactly, but there are more episodes than for some many series on Netflix, so I'm gonna post it.

AI-voiced Presidents (and others) playing various sports games (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzQbwBAP7a7vOL7aHtdTadh3KQFdn9TLt).  It's strangely engrossing.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on September 29, 2023, 09:21:59 pm
Holy shit, I've just seen this trailer for an upcoming SF animated series called Scavengers Reign. First time I hear about it, and the title is kinda cringe, but I'm so hyped right now I can't even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsZVmVPn4E
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on September 29, 2023, 10:48:09 pm
I remember enjoying the animated short Scavengers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TRzemJbUsw&t=0s) years ago. Had no idea they were turning it into a full show. And it looks like we won't have to wait long!
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on October 01, 2023, 02:24:54 am
Gen V just dropped the first 3 episodes.

It's a spinoff of The Boys, with My Hero Academia vibes. There's bloody violence, trauma, and gratuitous nudity. I love it~
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on October 06, 2023, 05:56:09 pm
So even though I was on the fence with The Wheel of Time for season 1, given all the strange things they did with the characterization... I actually quite enjoyed season 2 in spite of myself.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on October 13, 2023, 12:10:51 pm
Watched the first episode of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds on an airline flight.

/Kirk voice/ What. Have they.  Done. With Star. Trek.

Aside from visuals and re-using words and names from the Trek universe... it just doesn't feel like Trek.  Like the lack of professionalism of the bridge crew1 is... astonishing. I mean the old Trek bridge crews knew each other, but when on the bridge, they were about their job even with some casual banter, not about "oh wow, that's cool!" or other juvenile remarks.  I think it's the lack of sophistication in the banter - on TOS and TNG, the banter was more high-brow.  This felt more like stuff you'd get from YouTube streamers.

No nuance at all with breaking General Order 1... just "eh, whatever, rules are meant to be broken."


Spoiler: Also (true spoiler) (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: 1 (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on October 13, 2023, 12:24:15 pm
I was never much of a Trekkie, but of the little I experienced I remember the adult, professional, and principled attitude of the crew as the thing that made it stand out.
Looking at the current productions, it seems like they only retained the costumes and the sets.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Strongpoint on October 13, 2023, 01:03:51 pm
Professional and mature behavior is boring! We need DRAMA, conflict, and character growth! (character growth usually means an insufferable protagonist who becomes slightly less insufferable later)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on October 14, 2023, 02:43:46 am
It seems like that franchise has gone down hill over past few years with each new series making the situation worse.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on October 21, 2023, 07:24:48 am
Holy shit, I've just seen this trailer for an upcoming SF animated series called Scavengers Reign. First time I hear about it, and the title is kinda cringe, but I'm so hyped right now I can't even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsZVmVPn4E
Oh, for fuck's sake. They released it but it's region locked.  ::)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Strongpoint on October 21, 2023, 12:31:42 pm
Bingle watched Ahsoka. What the hell did they do to Sabine? It is not the character I enjoyed... and even if her going padawan has some potential, her confidently doing a Jedi knight level force push in the end was so out of nowhere.

Also, the only really good part of the series is the new dark Jedi. Everything else is rather - "it's OK I guess."
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Magmacube_tr on October 21, 2023, 05:05:23 pm

I watched the second season of Heartstopper on Netflix.

It is great. But it is not for me. It is awsome and deserves the praise, but watching it viscerally bothers me. It ignored the dissonance in the first season, but since the themes in the episodes became more mature, It became too real, and too much to bear.

You see, I am like super very neurodivergent. I only consume non-liveaction content. My recognition cannot adapt to the flesh-and-bone human thing on the screen.

For example, I have no problems with written and drawn media. I can readily recognise Charlie as Charlie in the comics. My mechanism can just say that to me with no issues.

But I can't watch the show. My brain goes; "This person is Joe Locke- I mean Joe Locke- Joe- J-J-Joe-[CHARLIE_FRANCIS_SPRING]" It is like cognitive dissonance, but much worse.

You get it? Does anyone else has the same issue? It is very annoying. I want to watch the season 3 when it comes out, but I don't want to feel dissonant again.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 22, 2023, 05:00:58 am
Bingle watched Ahsoka. What the hell did they do to Sabine? It is not the character I enjoyed... and even if her going padawan has some potential, her confidently doing a Jedi knight level force push in the end was so out of nowhere.

Also, the only really good part of the series is the new dark Jedi. Everything else is rather - "it's OK I guess."

Who is Sabine again?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on October 22, 2023, 05:38:29 am
Sabine was a Mandalorian who bailed on Mandalore to join the Rebels, then bailed on the Rebels to become the leader of Mandalore, then bailed on that to become a Jedi, then bailed on the Jedi to become a Sith, then bailed on the Sith to just backpack around space with her boyfriend for a while.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on October 22, 2023, 07:32:55 am
She was never sith aligned iirc?
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Post by: Folly on October 22, 2023, 08:19:27 am
Well that's from the new Ahsoka show. One could argue that she only cooperated with them temporarily so that they would help her find Ezra, and did not have any true allegiance to the Sith. But I still count it as one more team she sided with and then abandoned. Girl's got issues.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on October 22, 2023, 08:40:31 am
But there are no sith in the show
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Post by: Folly on October 22, 2023, 09:25:52 am
So what are you saying? That the guys dressed in black robes, wielding red lightsabers, using force powers, collaborating with witches who control zombies for the purpose of reviving the Empire, that they never actually acknowledged any direct affiliation with the organization known as 'Sith', so they aren't really members? Come on, they were totally Sith.
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Post by: ChairmanPoo on October 22, 2023, 10:11:54 am
Well, obviously wasnt cause guy said he wasnt 🤷‍♂️
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Post by: Robsoie on October 22, 2023, 10:23:46 am
apparently they're "Dark Jedi"
I had never heard about that before so after googling around it appears that a "dark jedi" is a jedi that fell to the dark side of the force but for "reasons" isn't in the sith order and just hang around brooding about being bad , having a plan or just cosplay as a sith with dark robes and red lightsabers ... until a sith or a jedi comes and kick his ass.

Basically the sith are the real deal threat and the dark jedis are just edgelords.
:D
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Post by: Strongpoint on October 22, 2023, 10:50:44 am
apparently they're "Dark Jedi"
I had never heard about that before so after googling around it appears that a "dark jedi" is a jedi that fell to the dark side of the force but for "reasons" isn't in the sith order and just hang around brooding about being bad , having a plan or just cosplay as a sith with dark robes and red lightsabers ... until a sith or a jedi comes and kick his ass.

Basically the sith are the real deal threat and the dark jedis are just edgelords.
:D

As I said, they were the only parts I legitimately enjoyed in the series

Siths of the Disney era, "appear from nowhere and die like a bitch" Snoke* and the fake "REappear from nowhere and die like a bitch" Palpatine are way less cool than those two Dark Jedi.

Also, I want a retcon of a novel and see my live-action Asaij Ventress

*yeah, I know it was never confirmed that he was a sith.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on October 22, 2023, 11:30:32 am
Broadly speaking, The Sith are all about destroying the Jedi, whereas a dark Jedi was basically someone trained by the Jedi who fell to the dark side.

The Rule of Two is the important bit for the Sith, having one master to train a new heir and one apprentice who will eventually destroy the master, the idea being that each new master is stronger than the last.

Palpatine is basically, prior to the New Canon, the culmination of thousands of years of that.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on October 22, 2023, 12:08:46 pm
Does being a Sith require being suicidal? Because that's the only way this would work, no? Otherwise every Sith ever would only get an apprentice that can only get stronger than them when they're on the death bed for unrelated reasons, and can't fight right anymore.
The culmination of thousands of years of that would be the wimpiest, most incompetent guy in the galaxy. #Darth_Jar-Jar
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Post by: Rolan7 on October 22, 2023, 12:30:45 pm
Bingle watched Ahsoka
Holy fuck :3  I appreciate this autocorrect error
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Post by: Starver on October 22, 2023, 12:38:42 pm
<something something something something> Dark Side...  Erm... I mean: Force Ghosts, or equivalent. <numble mumble> Of The Ancestors.

Though actually trying to justify original Lucas mythology, the EU, the post-EU and the Disney era canons is probably more more of a lost cause than a padawan turned to the Dark Side.


(Personal headcanon is that if Sith don't appear from nowhere (or appear from plain-sight, having masqueraded as absolutely nothing of the kind), they're not really doing their jobs. "Aspiring Sith" on Facebook profile or actively promoting their potential Sith skills on their LinkedIn just really aint in the instruction manual. Wannabes and fanboys, aside, who at best are treated as handy chaff for hiding the true Sith (and probably should unironicaly take on a name such as "Darth Fertile"). And what drives that kind of personality, and indeed leads any given Master Sith to find the next Apprentice Sith somewhere in their galaxy, is necessarily a dark art, in more ways than one.)
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Post by: hector13 on October 22, 2023, 12:41:51 pm
Does being a Sith require being suicidal? Because that's the only way this would work, no? Otherwise every Sith ever would only get an apprentice that can only get stronger than them when they're on the death bed for unrelated reasons, and can't fight right anymore.
The culmination of thousands of years of that would be the wimpiest, most incompetent guy in the galaxy. #Darth_Jar-Jar

That would be a betrayal of the Rule of Two. The apprentice is supposed to learn all they can from the master and then challenge them. If the master wins it’s technically a failure on their part for choosing a poor apprentice.

I’m not sure if it’s old or new canon but the third Sith Lord had to replace their first apprentice because they didn’t adhere to that part of the code, and the first Sith Lord was worried their apprentice was going to wait until he died and inheriting the title (as opposed to earning it) so he took steps to extend his life in an effort to be able to find and train a new apprentice. This resulted in his apprentice accusing him of betraying the code because it looked like he was trying to bypass the apprentice becoming the master schtick he’s been teaching her for the previous two and a bit decades.
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Post by: Il Palazzo on October 22, 2023, 12:43:34 pm
So they are suicidal, is what you're saying?
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Post by: Starver on October 22, 2023, 01:26:44 pm
A rather particular idea of "legacy".
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Frumple on October 22, 2023, 02:18:52 pm
Rule of two (banite sith!) was just a dominate sith ideology for a period; there's other parts of SW lore that had sith groups that, well. Didn't. Ascribe to it. Banite sith are what the major canon stories deal with, mostly, though. Basic idea was that you'd be developing sequentially stronger sith by training apprentices that could defeat their masters, but it was messier than that in practice. You could call it suicidal pretty reasonably, but, well. Sith aren't exactly the most sensible of critters, especially once darkside brainrot sets in.

It also wasn't particularly, like... effective, exactly? It took down the republic after like a millennia of implementation and ran the empire for a few years but that was about its biggest success, and previous sith orders fairly regularly managed wider scale or longer lasting or more rapid successes, so... it was relatively pretty unimpressive, all things considered.

It's also not super strict, from what I understand. Like, yes, master and apprentice, but also secret master and secret apprentice and fifty billion totally-not-apprentices-we-swear and yadda yadda yadda. Sith aren't known for actually following rules or, like, not lying about everything.
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Post by: hector13 on October 22, 2023, 03:14:38 pm
None of the other Sith managed to get as much done against the Jedi as the banite ones, though, which was Bane’s ultimate goal.

Admittedly they also didn’t quite succeed, but at least in the legend book on Plagueis, he did betray the Rule of Two thing when he became immortal and was content to remain master of Sidious while he was doing the whole chancellor business, but then Palpatine also betrayed it by killing Plagueis in his sleep, so…

One of the bigger issues I had with it was the focus on patience, even if it made sense with two Sith against thousands of Jedi, but patience isn’t really a Sith tenet.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Frumple on October 22, 2023, 05:51:23 pm
Ngl, now I just want to see a show that's Darth Bane vs Batman Bane. There's some varieties of the latter that could match up, iirc. There's probably other banes out there you could throw in the pile, too, might as well make it a party. Twenty banes enter, one bane leaves.

More official media should do that, really. Spiderverse stuff is a good start, Super Robot Wars is perennially great, but they need more massive multicross fanfiction-except-it's-not-fanfiction stuff. Smash bros gets a mention but it's not plot heavy, we need some real stuff in here, y'know?
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Post by: scriver on October 23, 2023, 01:35:41 am
Spiderverse start? What about Alien vs Predator and Hockey Mask vs Knife Fingers? They deserve their earned positions
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Post by: King Zultan on October 24, 2023, 03:26:12 am
Ring vs the grudge, is a thing.

Also Star Wars lore seems like a confusing mess of contradictions and dropped plot lines.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: scriver on October 24, 2023, 07:51:52 am
It's why I thought the "layers of canonity" of the old Star Wars Canon was a genius thing. It's one of the few instances of fantom actually understanding the purpose of fiction canons rather than treating them as holy scripture in my opinion.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Strongpoint on October 24, 2023, 01:37:49 pm
It's why I thought the "layers of canonity" of the old Star Wars Canon was a genius thing. It's one of the few instances of fantom actually understanding the purpose of fiction canons rather than treating them as holy scripture in my opinion.

I am afraid that Disney will "fix" it with a hard reboot and remake the original trilogy
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Post by: King Zultan on October 25, 2023, 03:32:39 am
Oh god that's be awful, and haven't we had enough shitty remakes recently, I mean where's the creativity gone?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Strongpoint on October 25, 2023, 03:30:50 pm
Oh god that's be awful, and haven't we had enough shitty remakes recently, I mean where's the creativity gone?

People watch remakes, people pay for remakes, and people pay more for nostalgia and familiarity than for creativity.

One funny thing here is that AIs are bad (and probably will be for a long time) in true creativity. But AIs are becoming better than humans in remakes. I think that we are not that far away from a film-making AI that will easily complete requests like "remake Star Wars Episode IV as if it was filmed in the year 2008 with the following cast of actors:"
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Post by: Starver on October 25, 2023, 04:27:24 pm
"Remake Episode I... But better."

(Actually, "Remake Episode I, and onwards, following the Darths & Droids (https://darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0001.html) version of the plot." That'd be interesting.)
((Oh, ye gods, I just effectively caltropped[1] myself! I decided to reread a few pages, then a few more, then...
[1] https://xkcd.com/2467/
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Post by: Strongpoint on October 25, 2023, 11:13:22 pm
"Remake Episode I... But better."

(Actually, "Remake Episode I, and onwards, following the Darths & Droids (https://darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0001.html) version of the plot." That'd be interesting.)
((Oh, ye gods, I just effectively caltropped[1] myself! I decided to reread a few pages, then a few more, then...
[1] https://xkcd.com/2467/

If I had such an AI, my first Star Wars request would be "Remake and expand the prequel trilogy into new episodes of The Clone Wars with corresponding style and characterizations"
_________

BRW, I believe that animated series are the best medium for the Star Wars universe. The Ahsoka series, (aka 5th season of Rebels), would lose nothing from staying animated except being cheaper to produce and allowing more hours in the series to develop the plot.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: King Zultan on October 26, 2023, 03:42:23 am
Oh god that's be awful, and haven't we had enough shitty remakes recently, I mean where's the creativity gone?

People watch remakes, people pay for remakes, and people pay more for nostalgia and familiarity than for creativity.
Guess I'm the weird one then because I don't watch the remakes I'd rather watch the original, and if I'm gonna pay for something I'll get the original one rather than a crappy reproduction.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Maximum™ on October 26, 2023, 09:33:17 pm
I've binged the first season of the One Piece Live action, it's... I want to say "good" for a manga/anime adaptation but I think I'll settle on "decent at best" as a show overall. I mean, it's clear that they put a LOT of effort and care in its making but it also has some serious flaws.

The good:
 - The story is mostly intact. Understandably there's been some changes (some characters were cut, some were introduced earlier, a few new plot points were added) but they mostly serve to condense the story, not change it.
 - Like the story, the characters are mostly true to their manga/anime counterparts, there are few visual alterations (Luffy doesn't wear chanclas, Ussop doesn't have such a long nose etc) but the mannerisms, motivations, goals, attitudes are there.
 - Details! LOTS of details! From the characters in the background to the main characters' outfits (they change clothes every few episodes but they still use the outfits they would wear in later arcs). Even the figurehead of the Going Merry, they could have make it look like the original but instead they changed it to a far more expressive one that looks like it was hand carved by some really skilled craftsman.

The bad:
 - There is some tonal shift between episodes, like they haven't made up their minds how they want to portray the world. Zoro is introduced cutting a person in half which isn't really in the style of the source material or the following episodes either. Similarly Buggy (a clown themed pirate) at first feels more like the Joker (from Batman) but later settles to his true, goofy persona.
 - The world feels a lot more grounded to reality than in the manga/anime. By itself that's not a problem but, to me, it makes the more fantastical elements feel jarring when they come in screen.
 - Most of the special effects are good but the fishmen look BAD, like something out of Hercules/Xena or even the Power Rangers.
 - The biggest problem in my opinion, is that they seem to have some screenwriting or, i should say, pacing issues. While watching I felt that a lot of the emotional beats fell flat, like there wasn't enough build up, to justify and make them feel earned.
See this is weird to me, I've been regularly reading One Piece since Marineford, I watch it occasionally on adult swim, I've shown her some of it, I was giddy showing her the Gear 5 stuff, and later showing her the animated version was fun.

Nerd cred to her for going "so basically he's Popeye level broken?" because yeah, toon physics > everything else.

So she jumped in knowing the show later on, had only seen a bit of Koby and Buggy and Garp but it hooked her straight away (even though strictly speaking Garp didn't show up/grand-dad reveal til Enies Lobby/Water Seven) and I had a blast pulling up panels from the early chapters to show her that as a general rule, if you see an odd clothing pattern/style, a weird background statue, strange facial hair, odd boats, it's pulled straight from the manga.

Still, with little background in the early story it got her up to speed and invested easily, to the point she wanted to space them out a bit instead of just binge them, so we wouldn't run out too fast. The last episode has both of us psyched for more to come, Smoker and Tashigi will be great, it'll be fun seeing them reach Reverse Mountain, Little Garden, Cactus Island, set up Drum Island, Alabasta, and more.


Also, I personally love the casting they did with Koby and Garp and Garp calling him son was a nice touch.

Note that he didn't have a teddy bear hat, it was a bulldog hat.

Also: Buggy starts out seeming like a serious threat and gets the upper hand early on before the crew get serious and quickly outclass him, exactly like the live action one.

When you consider Buggy and Shanks...
...honestly the casting of both of them were perfect.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: McTraveller on November 04, 2023, 07:05:54 pm
Three episodes into Travelers.  Interesting so far.

I'm wondering if it's going to go 12 Monkeys or a different route.

EDIT:
Spoiler: real spoilers (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Il Palazzo on November 04, 2023, 08:35:41 pm
I remember that. I've only seen the first season, but it was really good. In a weird, low-key fashion. An acquaintance sat to watch it on my recommendation, and couldn't see the appeal.
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Post by: Folly on November 11, 2023, 01:51:16 pm
Loki has concluded it's second and likely final season.

Most of this season followed Loki and some Time-Engineers trying to address the problem of an exponentially-expanding multiverse with an incremental and finite increase of bandwidth...which was obviously an ill-conceived plan from the start and fittingly failed miserably. But the effort served as a sort of training montage for Loki, allowing him to power-up and brute-force a solution that I didn't hate.

Overall, I think Loki's series provided an interesting and meaningful step forwards for the multiverse arc of the MCU.
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Post by: McTraveller on November 13, 2023, 07:43:48 pm
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Maximum™ on November 13, 2023, 08:03:21 pm
Missus once called it "A most ridiculous opera."
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on November 17, 2023, 10:14:06 pm
I just finished watching the second season of Good Omens, after rewatching the first season since it's been a while and I hardly remembered what happened.

This season suffered from a really underwhelming main arc. The first season had the whole antichrist ushering in the apocalypse arc, with major stakes to keep me engaged. Second season had an Archangel lose his memory, and spend the whole season faffing about a bookshop while people wondered wtf was wrong with him. There was no real danger, and barely any progression of the mystery.

Aside from that however, the sideshow angels and demons returned with banter every bit as amusing as the first season. And the finale teed up a third season, which has not yet been officially announced but seems to be highly expected. This was far from my favorite show in recent times, but I'll certainly return if they do.
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Post by: hector13 on November 17, 2023, 10:17:39 pm
Just finished that last night myself.

I personally enjoyed the nod to Pratchett with the bit about seamstresses.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on December 08, 2023, 02:10:52 pm
The Winter King reimagines King Arthur, his Round Table, legendary sword Excalibur, Wizard Merlin, and so forth. The Saxons are invading, but the kings of Britain can't stop fighting each other long enough to mount a defense. Will Arthur be able to unite them? Or is he destined to rise above them all? Only time will tell...

I enjoyed the first season well enough. Though if I had to list one complaint, it would be that this show feels very much like any of the other myriad early-Britain war shows and movies we've seen many times before.

No second season announced yet, but I'm optimistic.


AppleTV's Silo gives me major Snowpiercer vibes. A mini-civilization shoved into a very confined space where mysteries abound surrounding their origins and the activities of their leadership. Then a nobody from the Dregs is suddenly lifted up to assume a law-enforcement role, giving them opportunity to begin unraveling these mysteries, which naturally arouses the ire of the shadowy figures pulling all the strings.

There are some clever misleads that kept me guessing throughout the season, right up to the very end. Second season has been approved, and although the Writer's Strike caused a delay we still hope to see it come out sometime in 2024. I'm looking forward to more Silo!
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Post by: Loud Whispers on December 10, 2023, 07:37:02 am
Does the Winter King do that annoying thing where they add blue filters to just suck all the colour and life out of anything that's supposed to resemble Britain
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on December 10, 2023, 09:39:58 am
Does the Winter King do that annoying thing where they add blue filters to just suck all the colour and life out of anything that's supposed to resemble Britain
are there any series that does not have a blue filter ?
seems to me every series or movies i have watched on a tv in the last 10 years have used a blue filter, though some have the blue filter setup more potent than other.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Frumple on December 10, 2023, 09:43:51 am
Does the Winter King do that annoying thing where they add blue filters to just suck all the colour and life out of anything that's supposed to resemble Britain
are there any series that does not have a blue filter ?
seems to me every series or movies i have watched on a tv in the last 10 years have used a blue filter, though some have the blue filter setup more potent than other.
10 years is limiting, but I'm pretty sure there's still black and white series being made out there, somewhere. They wouldn't use a blue filter by dint of not using blue at all :V
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Post by: Robsoie on December 10, 2023, 10:10:44 am
Forgot that there's also a yellow filter used on the some series/movies, even more annoying to me than the blue one.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on December 10, 2023, 11:28:14 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Thick orange filters for classical med or indian ocean shows, thick blue filter for medieval north sea shows. I know there's also the meme of any mexican scene hit with the yellow filter
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Post by: Starver on December 10, 2023, 12:12:01 pm
but I'm pretty sure there's still black and white series being made out there, somewhere. They wouldn't use a blue filter by dint of not using blue at all :V
Well, they use red, green and blue filters, then..!;)

(Yeah, I know that's not true. Although, in fact using <hue>-filters in front of monochrome film-stock/recording equipment, or preprocessing prior to the zero-saturation conversion, can be a very useful way of highlighting/supressing key features that you can't do once you're in the luminosity-only model and which would make the non-greyscale version look positively weird. Or indeed do it with physical lighting/colouring that makes things look weird (red mascara and eyeliner to get the desired deepest-black on old film stock, seemingly moreso than the actual black).
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 13, 2023, 12:35:27 pm
Netflix's Blue Eye Samurai is really good. Arcane-level good. So much quality in the animation and the voice acting and the everything.
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Post by: McTraveller on December 15, 2023, 07:44:37 pm
I'm still making my way through JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

Holy smokes are there a lot of episodes!

And it keeps getting more bizarre. I'm actually surprised.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Criptfeind on December 15, 2023, 08:23:03 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That sure was a thing.
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Post by: Laterigrade on December 16, 2023, 12:36:08 am
just finished the first season of Invincible, it was really good
very rough in patches, especially at some points with the animation or dialogue, but when it hit hard, it hit really hard
my verdict so far is that the very strong emotional core and interesting plot mostly make up for certain slips or failures
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Post by: Il Palazzo on December 16, 2023, 01:27:56 pm
Netflix's Blue Eye Samurai is really good. Arcane-level good. So much quality in the animation and the voice acting and the everything.
Well, that turned out disappointing towards the end. It was so close to being great. Turns out the writing doesn't quite hold up to the level of animation, even as it starts strong. Starting roughly in ep. 6 (of eight) it falls apart at the seams - weird tonal shifts, odd music choices, lapses of logic, relying on tired tropes, power creep, plot holes and contradictions to move the plot forward. To be fair, it's on a level of your average anime in all of that. But it could have been so much more.
The first five episodes make for a really good samurai flick, with only an occasional hiccup or two. And it remains some of the best naturalistic animation I've seen, with quite a bit of visual flair.
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Post by: Folly on January 07, 2024, 10:19:03 pm
I finished watching the first season of Severance, another really solid show from AppleTV.

This one is set in an office space, at a corporation that does stuff so super secret that they require their employees to undergo a process called 'severance', effectively splitting their memories so that they have one life at work and another when they leave. This creates the interesting situation where if the outside person ever decides to quit their job, the inside person effectively dies! On top of that, there are some mysteries surrounding the true nature of the corporation and the secret stuff they're hiding.

Second season is well underway and hopefully will arrive soon.
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Post by: Folly on January 10, 2024, 10:54:52 pm
I finished watching the first two seasons of Sweet Tooth. This one is set in a post-apocalyptic world where human-animal hybrid children are hunted by the remaining humans. It was okay.

This is yet another show that doesn't really seem to know what audience it's trying to target. On the one hand we have a gritty, violent setting where nobody trusts anybody and there's not enough provisions to go around. On the other hand, we have a bunch of cute hybrid kids cheerfully running around, mostly avoiding the dangers of this ugly world. There's also a fair amount of plot holes and bad dialogue.

Overall, it's watchable, but hard to recommend. I'll probably come back for the third and final season, just to be done with Sweet Tooth.
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Post by: Folly on January 14, 2024, 07:09:31 pm
I finished the two current seasons of From. This feels like a TV show version of Minecraft or Valheim, or any of the myriad other games about sheltering in place at night while monsters try to break down your door, then exploring a bizarre world full of mysteries during the day.

This is one of those shows where I just know right away that whatever explanation they eventually give for the supernatural mysteries will be unsatisfying, and yet I can't help enjoying the journey just the same. I found From absolutely enthralling, and frequently sat down intending to watch a single episode but ended up watching two or three instead!

Very much looking forward to Season 3, which we are optimistic about appearing some time this year.
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Post by: McTraveller on January 14, 2024, 07:30:38 pm
I made it through the first season of Another Life.

I just... I can't understand the ways these shows portray the complete utter lack of professional behavior by about anyone.  This is not the first media for which I have had this observation... what is going on with society... this is not an art-reflects-reailty-reflects-art loop I want to reinforce, yet here we are...
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Post by: Biowraith on January 15, 2024, 02:27:52 am
Haha, Another Life exceptionally bad.  A hand picked crew that's potentially humanity's last hope and apparently the government thought that rejected Love Island contestants were the best fit for the job.  They make the scientists from Prometheus look good.  The characters from Always Sunny would have done a better job.  If it came out now I'd think it was written by AI, but honestly AI would probably have made a better written show.

And somehow it got a second season.
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Post by: Ulfarr on January 16, 2024, 12:25:09 pm
I just... I can't understand the ways these shows portray the complete utter lack of professional behavior by about anyone.

To quote a certain screenwriter, the answer is always "So the movie can happen".
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on January 16, 2024, 09:20:13 pm
I'm trying to get into Slow Horses, but it's not quite living up to the glowing recommendations I've been sold on. Was expecting modern, perhaps bawdier, John le Carre. What I'm seeing is competently made, engaging, but bland and kinda shallow.
Which is, incidentally, how I feel about most visual entertainment these days.

Oh, but credit where it's due: slovenly Gary Oldman is fun to watch.
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Post by: Funk on January 19, 2024, 10:49:48 pm
Doctor Who , i'm nearly done, only a few left to go...
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Robsoie on January 20, 2024, 05:52:08 am
I just... I can't understand the ways these shows portray the complete utter lack of professional behavior by about anyone.

To quote a certain screenwriter, the answer is always "So the movie can happen".

There's additionally a vast difference in writing talent when it comes to writing story and characters.
Because often in a tv series or movies a drama point is a result of a mistake/misunderstanding/failure happening between characters. But it's how things are wrote that makes it believable or ridiculous, and not all the hired writers have the talent for that unfortunately.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on January 20, 2024, 01:47:43 pm
Doctor Who , i'm nearly done, only a few left to go...
Just nuWho or the whole (extant, + reconstructed/"lost" stories) corpus?  A lot, either way.

Then you might need to look to (e.g.) the Big Finish audio stories (both pre-revival and post-revival doctors), extended-canon and totally off-canon ("The Curse Of Fatal Death" parody, and the Peter "he's actually a human called Who..." Cushing vs the Daleks films.

If you feel you might want to, anyway... ;)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Il Palazzo on January 26, 2024, 12:36:34 am
Two episodes into Severance. It's great.
It's about people who work (?) on data (?) so sensitive, that they have to undergo a procedure that separates their memories in and out of work. So they're essentially signing off a part of their life to oblivion, while creating another person whose entire world is confined to the work environment where they toil endlessly (since that part of them doesn't experience any downtime after they clock out).
A simple idea explored carefully and cleverly, like in a good sf short or an episode of the Twilight Zone.
There's this wonderfully unsettling aura of existential dread permeating everything. Something very Lynchian about it. Possibly a commentary on modern life or life in general, but it doesn't hit you on the head with its metaphors.
Quality production and a few well known faces in the cast (Turturro, Walken, Arquette).

Ok, that was a binge. It's the best thing I've seen in a while. Go watch it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on February 22, 2024, 07:37:24 pm
I finished watching Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, a TV show installment in the MonsterVerse movie franchise.

This show is about 90% wild goose chase. A couple of kids find out their father died in a monster attack, then get a clue that he might be alive, so they go chasing after him. They then get chased by another giant monster, find another clue about where their father might be, go chasing after him again, and repeat that cycle for most of the season.

Despite the somewhat tedious plot, the monsters had a fairly impressive variety, and the ending had a very satisfying payoff.

I'm not super optimistic that the second season will find an interesting way to continue the story from where it left off...but I'll certainly come back to see what they've got.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on March 24, 2024, 02:49:43 pm
I finished watching the first and second seasons of Halo.

I have not played much of the games, so cannot draw much comparison there. I do know that the games are mostly about shooter action, and I was a bit disappointed that this show has very little action in it, instead focusing most of the screen-time on the mystery of the aliens and the politics of the government managing Master Chief and his Spartans.

The first season devoted a lot of time to a side character; some little rebel girl who, despite the omnipresent alien threat, spends all her time hating on the government for reasons that are not explained sufficiently for me to develop any real interest in her arc. It was an unwelcome distraction from Master Chief and his affairs.

In general this show seems to be plagued by forced plot progression. Characters will suddenly change their minds for no apparent reason. Or worse, they exhibit super-intuition or outright superpowers with absolutely no explanation, just to keep things moving along.

Ultimately, if you don't overthink it then Halo is a very watchable show. I can't really offer any higher praise than that.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on March 24, 2024, 03:04:22 pm
People got upset that Master Chief took off his helmet, then got upset he took out his helmet and someone else played with it, if you get my drift.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Telgin on March 25, 2024, 11:42:04 am
I have a friend who's a big fan of the Halo games and he said the series butchered the story and it has very little to do with the games.  He despises the series for a lot of reasons, but I sadly don't know enough about it to relay any of his commentary.

Another friend said the story sounded like it was originally meant to be a different sci-fi series that got rebranded to Halo at the last minute.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: eerr on March 27, 2024, 09:08:46 pm
F in chat for Akira Toriyama, creator of Dragonball.

what's the best way to get all the dragon ball series for watching?
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: zhijinghaofromchina on March 28, 2024, 09:39:01 am
These days I am watching House M.D. and I am totally addictive to it .Hugh Laurie 's  acting styles awed me a lot . According to the audience 's reviews , it is the doctor version of Sherlock Holmes , the doctor finding clues , building logic chains , exploring the flaws of humanity and unmask the lies the patient told .

Though it is a tv show released in 2004, I can't deny that it's far more exciting than the most contemporary Chinese TV shows . Firstly I got to know this Tv show was only because my medical English teacher played one excerpt of it , in which the famale patient was got into an emergency , and the docter perfomed a tracheotomy surgery on her ,which makes it even more realistic and exciting , that attracts me .
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on March 28, 2024, 12:28:15 pm
I'm wondering whether you're able to watch Blackadder. Just to see another end of Hugh's range. You'd really have to get  hold of the "... Third" or "... Goes Forth" series(es), where his (two) primary character(s are/)is totally unlike House. Maybe won't translate (or he comprehendable) that much, dealing with Regency and WW1-era British(-Trenches) settings, through a 1980s'-era comedy lens, but...  Just a suggestion[1].



Also he's a pretty very good musician (and vocalist), especially towards jazz/blues and piano in general. I've not seen enough House to know if they got that skill into the character's repertoir, too.

You've got me wondering if there's anywhere I could easily get to see House, now, as I don't know what channel(s) it originally showed on, in the UK, but I never did seem to reliably follow it at the time. US show, so probably hundreds of episodes, huge plot arcs and (non-headline-)character development/turnover, and needs tlme to watch from the start again.


[1] I'd recommend Blackadder, in general, to people. Interested to know how they work outside of Britain, in fact... Might be challenging or a workable 'lowest common denominator', if not both.
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Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on March 28, 2024, 12:30:57 pm
Hugh Laurie is also in the final episode of the second series of Blackadder, in which he plays a German particularly skilled in disguises.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on March 28, 2024, 01:40:20 pm
Hugh Laurie is also in the final episode of the second series of Blackadder, in which he plays a German particularly skilled in disguises.
Fanon might also wonder whether Prince Ludwig The Indestructible (that character) also was in 'disguise', in-universe, as an drinking chum of 'Bladders' in the prior episode with the Whiteadders/Drinking party plot. ;) Apart from the fact that it would be a bold master of disguise who disguises himself as a slightly more mundane version of himself. Instead of a sheep.  :P

But both are one-shot characters, unlike his Georges. Perhaps Ludwig is more House-ish, but a different different accent, while the drinker arguably isn't even one of the most outstanding 'drunken drunker', consider it more a rewatch-bonus. Ludwig 'eats the scenery' quite a lot (not quite so much as Lord Flashheart... but that's practically impossible to do!), so yes, B2 is already worth watching (IMO), but the finale is a particular treat for any Laurie-spotters out there. ;)


(For those with access to BBC Sounds, or equivalent, him and Fry (and others) have recently been on Radio 4 Extra, with the old "Saturday Night Fry" series. Might be that only the last two or three are still 'available', if they're on the usual four-week backlist. Anyway, it's him more in his general George (prince or lieutenant) 'default', amidst the typical Fry-And-Laurie intellectual chaos.)


Ok, I'm going to now have to dig out the Blackadder VHSs and rewatch them, so as to make this not as off-topic as I may have sent it.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: hector13 on March 28, 2024, 01:47:50 pm
I had forgotten he was in that episode, mostly because it was entirely stolen h the excellent Miriam Margoyles. Two spikes would be an extravagance.

Blackadder is on a few streaming services, including BritBox, though I’m not sure if that’s available in the UK, though since it’s a streaming service between ITV and the Beeb I would be surprised if it wasn’t.

I did also watch it recently so it’s not that off-topic, along with The Thick of It and I’m working my way through the newer Red Dwarf stuff I didn’t see when I was still back in the UK.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: EuchreJack on March 28, 2024, 04:54:17 pm
Blackadder: The show in which Rowan Atkinson is actually a decent actor.

Huge Laurie's success is often cited as the primary reason that we'll never get another Blackadder.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Starver on April 12, 2024, 10:01:58 am
(There is a specific 'Trek thread, I'm sure, but it looks like it's long enough back in the board timeline as to be a significant Necro, so gave up looking for it... Not that I'm currently able to watch any of these new-fangled spinoffs, either.)

Scottish Scotty's not a scot-ish Scot, eh? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72kn4gzq8no)
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Funk on April 15, 2024, 09:34:06 pm
Fallout.
Its much better then halo at takeing its world and useing it, sets are great and there a real feel that it is set in a fallout wasteland.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Eschar on April 19, 2024, 11:54:35 pm
Watched first 2 Fallout episodes, agreed with Funk.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Folly on April 20, 2024, 06:31:23 pm
I feel like Fallout works better as a TV show than it did as video games. The worldbuilding and storytelling was always the strong point of the games, with actual gameplay being clunky and often tedious.

I enjoyed the show, though some of the game elements didn't translate very well. In a world where stimpaks are a magical cure-all that is commonly available, it doesn't really make sense that so many people are bleeding out from stabs and gunshot wounds.

The stuff in Vault 4 left me very confused at first; I had to read a summary of the episode before some parts clicked. It didn't help that they were simultaneously exploring the Cult of Shady Sands and the Mutants, when the two were actually unrelated. But mostly the exposition describing the Mutant's past just wasn't handled in a way that was clear to me.

I do feel like the big reveal of the origin of the Vaults came a bit too soon. They could easily have pushed that back to Season 2, giving us something to look forward to. Now I have a hard time imagining how they'll keep things interesting moving forward, but hopefully they'll figure something out.
Title: Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
Post by: Jopax on April 22, 2024, 11:12:51 am